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Posted by djpaulc on Dec-09-2005 17:03:

Sweden - Global Domination Is Near!

Sweden - famous for some of the most beautiful women in the world and the best porn in the world, it is now on the map for something else: thier dance music.

The land of Henrick Larsson and Abba is running amok these days in the dance scene. Fair enough, we all know about 'The Swedish House Mafia' who have dominated the house scene over the last year but it is starting to spread into other genres. And there is one major factor that is in the Swedes' favour that may have them ruling the scene for years to come: most of the DJs/Producers are really, REALLY young.

Ok, so everyone knows about 'The House Mafia' which includes Steve Angello, Sebastian Ingrosso, Axwell and Eric Prydz. They have completely dominated the house scene for the last year or two. And I wouldn't mind, but nealry all of their releases have been of an unbelievably high quality. They have the house scene in the bag, and yet thier 'Mafia' is growing. Newer additions include Rasmus Faber - been making music for a couple of years and really starting to get noticed now, and John Dahlback - this fella is only 20 and has released over 30 EPs!!! Add these to their veteran house producer Stonebridge and you can see why I reckon their dominance looks set to last for a good while yet.

Then we go to the prog house/trance genre, my favoured genre. Sweden's influence in this genre has been steadily growing over the last few years and is now one of the biggest players. Artists like David West, Ozgur Can, Probspot, Inkfish, Martin H, Rouzbeh Delavari and Son Kite have all being releasing great stuff over the last while and for me, no other nation has released as many good prog house/trance tracks over the last year or two. Between Probspot, Ozgur and David West, there have been an unhealthy amount of quality material released. Tunes like 'Foreplay', 'External Key', 'Changed' and 'Larry Mountains' have really raised the standard within the prog trance genre imo.

Trance wise, they are far from dominant but their are many DJs/producers beginning to have an impact i.e. Mike Shiver, Envio, Active 8. Whereas Adam Beyer has been at the forefront of the techno genre for many years now.

Basically, I just cant understand how such a nation with such a small population and relatively average club scene(going by what Axwell, Probspot etc have stated in interviews) has such a large share of the good dance music being released and I think everyone should take notice of Sweden as a major contributor to the scene. I would love to know whether the Swedes are just abnormally gifted for music or whether they just have nothing else to do. Whatever it is, I take my hat off to Sweden as a nation and to all those artists who have accounted for basically 2/3 of my favourite material over the last year or so.



Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-09-2005 17:10:

Re: Sweden - Global Domination Is Near!

quote:
Originally posted by djpaulc
the prog house/trance genre, my favoured genre.


quote:
Trance wise


The difference being?

As for the topic, Sweden's a very developed country, and pretty damn big too. I mean, Holland isn't an obvious cultural centre of Europe like Britain, Germany or Italy etc. are, but it's had a big influence on dance music in the last decade, so why not Sweden?


Posted by verminator on Dec-09-2005 17:11:

it's strange how you can mention Sweden and EDM in the same post, and at the same time leave out names like Jesper Dahlb�ck, Tobias Von Hofsten, Joel Mull, Cari Lekebusch, Hardcell, P�r Grindvik, Henrik B, Thomas Krome etc...

Considering these names, and what they have done for the scene, not only in Sweden, but also in the international scene, it's easy to understand that Sweden has actually been on the map (when it comes to EDM) for a long time..


Posted by djpaulc on Dec-09-2005 17:13:

Re: Re: Sweden - Global Domination Is Near!

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The difference being?


Check out the 4000 other threads that discuss the difference between them and then come back to me.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-09-2005 17:15:

Re: Re: Re: Sweden - Global Domination Is Near!

quote:
Originally posted by djpaulc
Check out the 4000 other threads that discuss the difference between them and then come back to me.


Progressive trance is just that: trance. Prog house has been dead as an individual sub-genre for years, so "progressive" and "trance" are interchangable.


Posted by Azz3D on Dec-09-2005 17:18:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sweden - Global Domination Is Near!

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Progressive trance is just that: trance. Prog house has been dead as an individual sub-genre for years, so "progressive" and "trance" are interchangable.


AKA "NU Prog/Trance" as I like to call it...


Posted by nils on Dec-09-2005 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by verminator
it's strange how you can mention Sweden and EDM in the same post, and at the same time leave out names like Jesper Dahlb�ck, Tobias Von Hofsten, Joel Mull, Cari Lekebusch, Hardcell, P�r Grindvik, Henrik B, Thomas Krome etc...

Considering these names, and what they have done for the scene, not only in Sweden, but also in the international scene, it's easy to understand that Sweden has actually been on the map (when it comes to EDM) for a long time..


quite right. they are the real swedish heroes..
though all mentioned in this thread (techno or house) are quality. but still EDM is a large minority here

I'd like to add H�kan Lidbo, Petter, Antiloop (can't tell if they're broken up or not?) & Andreas Tilliander. Sweden, home of indifference, can have it's moments
(great thread, keep it up )


Posted by djpaulc on Dec-09-2005 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by verminator
it's strange how you can mention Sweden and EDM in the same post, and at the same time leave out names like Jesper Dahlb�ck, Tobias Von Hofsten, Joel Mull, Cari Lekebusch, Hardcell, P�r Grindvik, Henrik B, Thomas Krome etc...



agreed, I should have mentioned them. many of them are more tech based than what I am into and a bit before my generation, but I still agree about the contribution they made.

Imo, they started the ball rolling, but Sweden has made a massive resurgence in the dance world over the last year or so, which has made the nation's contribution bigger than ever.


Posted by zoric on Dec-09-2005 17:45:

I can't agree on that we're making the best porn, But we have got probably the best good looking women around :|

SVERIGE SVERIGE SVERIGE


Posted by Shadowkid on Dec-09-2005 18:45:

And you forgot Joni Ljungqvist, I love the work he's done so far.


Posted by djpaulc on Dec-09-2005 18:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Shadowkid
And you forgot Joni Ljungqvist, I love the work he's done so far.


good shout, totally forgot bout him.


Posted by Rainborn on Dec-09-2005 18:58:

David West is swedish, and inkfish? Nice


Yes Joni Ljungqvist ROCKS MY WORLD!!!!


Posted by Zombie0915 on Dec-09-2005 19:18:

What I hear about Sweden that people use to explain stuff like this is the phrase "cacoon culture". Alot of people say that in the scandinavian contries the winter places more people indoors where they sit together and produce stuff like dance music and most of the demoscene productions.

I'm not saying they are all introverted geeks or anything, I actually know next to nothing about sweden, but I have heard many people use the phrase "cacoon culture" to explain why they appear dispraportionally productive in the media world. It just seemed to be understandable that people who have more time indoors with their technology would come out with alot of good productions compared to a place where people go outside more and dont have as much access to such things.

Definately lotsa good music and porn coming from over there.


Posted by djpaulc on Dec-09-2005 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by nils
Petter


didnt know he was Swedish! he has released some great stuff!


quote:
Originally posted by nils
Antiloop (can't tell if they're broken up or not?)


Well David West is doing his own thing now so i reckon they are 'unofficially' broken up. Haven't heard anything from Robin Soderman since.


Posted by djpaulc on Dec-09-2005 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
Definately lotsa good music and PORN coming from over there.



Cheers man, thought I was on my own with my opinions on Swedish porn!!


Posted by MarathonMan on Dec-09-2005 19:27:

After Greece, Sweden looks like a good spot for Dave Seamans next Audiotheraphy CD!


Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Dec-09-2005 19:28:

Lets not forget the psy scene..we have some of the finest artists out there, particularly in the progressive psy sector...

Human blue
Ticon
Tegma
Andromeda
Vibrasphere
Son Kite (Kooler, Minilogue)
Atmos
Gaudium
12 Moons
Miraculix
Logic Bomb
Hux Flux
Matenda
S-range
Solarfields
Lucy in space

I'm not too surpised though. Sweden is ranked as the most creative nation in the world with Japan in second place.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Dec-09-2005 19:37:

Im not trying to be a jerk,

but how do you rank creativity? Where does that figure come from?

I am just curious how it is measured, I am not in any way challenging the idea that you kids are insanely creative.


Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Dec-09-2005 19:45:

I'm not sure. There was a segment about it in the economist a couple of weeks back.


Posted by Jeremy H on Dec-09-2005 20:41:

The fact that Sweden is very well developed IT-wise might be a factor too

Hejja Sverige!


Posted by Scottaculous on Dec-09-2005 21:12:

Clearly the Swedes are taking over I better learn Swedish.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-09-2005 21:29:

I'd also like to wish them good luck in the World Cup (they just drew the same group as England).


Posted by DJ Cinos on Dec-09-2005 21:35:

Mweh, I've never liked Swedish music. Any of it, actually.

That especially goes for Airbase.


Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-09-2005 22:17:

yeah as mentioned already Sweden got some of the finest techno, house and progpsy producers. though we lack high quality melodic producers. we do have some but they are mainly copying the dutch sound. in that field Finland is much better than Sweden with good producers such as Orkidea, Slusnik Luna, Beatpusher, Miika Kuisma etc.

the most interesting aspect of this is that Swedens EDM clubbing scene is almost none existing. We have almost no big regular trance or techno clubs. Just like once in a month. Even for big cities such as Gothenburg.


Posted by zoric on Dec-09-2005 22:24:

Indeed. Finland is also growing very much in the EDM scene.

Thanks System-J


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