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replacement for cdj-1000 coming soon?

does anyone know if pioneer is planning on updating/ releasing a new model to replace the cdj1000?

Strong rumours have it, that Pioneer is releasing a CDJ-2000 model that will emulate vinyl even more to reality than the preceding CDJ-1000... Supposedly along with readability of dvd-cds with mp3s or wavs on them, mp3 cds, i-pod plugin abilities, and other such wished add-ons to the unit.

note:... keep in mind it's all under rumour.

any idea when this thing would be released? i'd hate to buy a new pair of 1000s and have these come out right after...

This thing will probably be $2,000 each if it will do all that, as the CDJ 1000 was $1,000 each hence "CDJ 1000" haha. Don't know how many DJs will really want to upgrade if and when it's released, which probably wont be till later in the decade, like 2008 or 2009 perhaps.

It is all rumors, hence no date.

Yeah all were doing is speculating. I'm just guessing by the end of the decade, but by the time there will probably be some really advanced sound format other than MP3, so I don't think MP3 disc compatibility is a neccessary upgrade. How many people really mix with MP3 discs anyways?. I think if you really want to mix with MP3s your better off just using a laptop and Traktor or Ableton perhaps to mix than 40+ tracks on an MP3 disc. And there might something with better quality sound than MP3 in the future, closer to a WAV format but takes up less space on hard drives. There's MP4s out now, but I don't think they sound that different from MP3, so you never know.

And the DVD thing, who knows in five years if DVDs will still be around? There might be something EVEN better on the horizon at the rate technology is going...so if this is released soon, it will have features that might be outdated in 5 to 10 years, forcing them to make another upgrade, so I think they should just focus on the audio and design aspect and forget the DVD and MP3 stuff. And who knows, in 5 to 10 years CDJs, Turntables etc might not be the "thing" to mix with, it might go completely digital. I know that might take some things away from mixing visually but it does seem to be getting better and more popular. Again this is all speculation so who knows??

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Originally posted by Spirit5 This thing will probably be $2,000 each if it will do all that, as the CDJ 1000 was $1,000 each hence "CDJ 1000" haha. Don't know how many DJs will really want to upgrade if and when it's released, which probably wont be till later in the decade, like 2008 or 2009 perhaps.

Everybodies upgrading to DVJ X-1's because they have pretty blue lights on the front and shiny stuff.

It pisses me off to see a club that has just switched to DVJ's from CDJ1000's. There is no point to spend $3500 on something you ALREADY HAVE. There is no point for DVJ's. NOBODY will have 24/96 audio. And if you do, you are one of the worlds top DJ's that CAN get the ORIGINAL source DVD from the producer. Most low to mid range DJ's will NEVER have that stuff, and if they do, they won't have a full set! Pioneer got retarded on this one and either realsed it for no reason at all, or just for money.

Far overpriced as well.

Same with the DJM 1000. It's a DJM 600 with no efx, some midi controls, an extra channel, prettier lights, and the DJM 909/707 EQ knobs.

No one mentioned blue ray discs, if the Playstation 3 is supposably supporting them then they might be used in the near future for media.
Pioneer was always a great company untill they realised it. They started thinking in terms of how can we dress this up and overprice it. No doubt they have good prodcuts but they are starting to lean towards the wrong set of standards.

I-Pod connectors??? If this "proffesional" piece of dj equipment gets released with ipod connectors someone on the pioneer design bored is gonna have to die... After using some of numarks products they gained my respect "although my respect isnt worth much" but when i found out about the Ipod dj mixer i instantly thaught much less of numark.

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Originally posted by ken_allen Everybodies upgrading to DVJ X-1's because they have pretty blue lights on the front and shiny stuff. It pisses me off to see a club that has just switched to DVJ's from CDJ1000's. There is no point to spend $3500 on something you ALREADY HAVE. There is no point for DVJ's. NOBODY will have 24/96 audio. And if you do, you are one of the worlds top DJ's that CAN get the ORIGINAL source DVD from the producer. Most low to mid range DJ's will NEVER have that stuff, and if they do, they won't have a full set! Pioneer got retarded on this one and either realsed it for no reason at all, or just for money. Far overpriced as well. Same with the DJM 1000. It's a DJM 600 with no efx, some midi controls, an extra channel, prettier lights, and the DJM 909/707 EQ knobs.

I don't even know where to begin with this one, there's so much misinformation. I quess I'll start with: DVJs don't play DVD-audio, or SACDs. The point is, they play DVDs. You know, video? And if you don't understand how dissimilar the DJM-600 and the DJM-1000 are, you need to do some research.

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Originally posted by SpecRadio Same with the DJM 1000. It's a DJM 600 with no efx, some midi controls, an extra channel, prettier lights, and the DJM 909/707 EQ knobs.

Ummmmmmmm WHAT!?

80% of this thread must have been written by clueless kids high on something.

i think for the anyone buying cdj1000s will be fine for the next 4 or 5 years

I bloody hope not as I have 3x1000mk2s on the way!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Freak I bloody hope not as I have 3x1000mk2s on the way!!!!!!

Haha thats when you see the pio newsletter saying they are releasing a new cdj that will surpass all their others.

A thread like this bounces around the Pioneer DJ forums every few months and their reply is always "Of course we will be working on an improved version at some point, maybe of quite a different nature, although currently there are no plans for such a model to be released in the forseable future" or words to that effect... so the chances are they're throwing ideas around, maybe writing a few proceedures to test these ideas etc which may be included in a new cd-playing device but there currently isn't a model they're specifically working on.


And I think it's very unlikely a new version would use BluRay as that's a technology invented by Sony who apparently have said they want a fair amount for any use of thier patented design... much more likely they'd use HD-DVD technology which doesn't hold quite as much data but it's still about 40GB capacity.


But personally I can't see why Pioneer would want to create a new version of the CDJ1000 as opposed to the DVJ - don't get me wrong, I don't give a fuck about being able to play DVDs but the DVJ is really the next model of CDJ1000 where they've just included DVD playing facilities... things are getting to a point where it would be daft to "down-grade" the technology to another unit which only supports CD playback.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy Haha thats when you see the pio newsletter saying they are releasing a new cdj that will surpass all their others.

lol
Its ok- they are waiting for me in an apartment the states to pick up in a few weeks.
Price i paid for them brand new (god bless the �/$ exchange rate!!!) , I could sell them back here in the uk as used and still make a profit.
So if a new model is announced, I will be getting rid of them sharpish

are they american models? (ie diff voltage to uk?)

The only way that I can see pioneer improving cdj-1000 is to add a knob that could change the pitch of the song regardless of tempo (say... +- 12 cent.. simiral to traktor).

and secondly add a lcd display that would display the waveform in real time (again just like in traktor)

lets face it... cdj-1000 is already pretty much a perfect cd turntable as is. most of the planned updates are bound to be just useless gadgets.

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Originally posted by Basstard are they american models? (ie diff voltage to uk?)

I believe the 1000s and most other top end gear (save 1200s, (1210s have it) are dual voltage.

a wouldnt say the Pio`s 1000 have true vinyl simulation. they are good cause they are rock-solid, reliable and easy-2-use, but the vinyl mode is half my dream. what i really like is the idea of Numarks CDX players. now that is real vinyl control.. but i heard CDXs aren't that reliable and ppl complained much and stuff
if it would be of the same quality as Pioneer, it would definately go #1 in clubs + mp3 playback capability + effects + blah blah blah
=)
i dunno anyways, i wont be havin the money for even 1 CDJ in the far future =)

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Originally posted by blacknoizybox i really like is the idea of Numarks CDX players. now that is real vinyl control..

I have never understood why many people are after the "vinyl control". Okay.. I can understand it when it comes to scratching, but when mixing trance or house there is usually no scratching involved and using the rotating vinyl on top of the numark cd-turntable to bend the pitch is nowhere near as accurate or comfortable than pitchbending on cdj-1000's motionless platter. Sweaty hands + vinyl can cause some serious trouble and thatswhy its always a good idea to ride the pitch slider instead of touching the vinyl physically ==> rotating platters on cd-turntables are no use for dj's who dont scratch.

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Originally posted by Trogdor DVJs don't play DVD-audio

And if you put the wavs in the AUDIO_TS folder when making a DVD...it'll play them douchebag. Don't try to step up to a level of intelligence you are not yet at.

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Originally posted by ken_allen And if you put the wavs in the AUDIO_TS folder when making a DVD...it'll play them douchebag. Don't try to step up to a level of intelligence you are not yet at.

So what's the advantage? It's still not DVD-A quality. These players are NOT about audio. There is only a slight advantage over the CDJ-1000s. It's about manipulating video, jackass.

As for insulting my intelligence, um, have you read your posts? Is it fun being an opinionated know-it-all when you never seem to actually know what you're talking about?

I'm just waiting for the analogue revolution In about 20 years time someone will come up with a way of using totally interference-free analogue signals which, by the very nature of analogue, will be better quality than digital ever can be

That or someone will come up with a new way of representing the data, a third data type alongside continuous (analogue) and discrete (digital), which will be better

Telepathy controlled and everything.

Let's just see...

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Originally posted by dinoXpress I believe the 1000s and most other top end gear (save 1200s, (1210s have it) are dual voltage.

thats interesting dino - so hypathetically if i were to buy a pair of CDJ1000s off djmart.com for example what would i need to do to use them in ireland?

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Originally posted by Basstard are they american models? (ie diff voltage to uk?)

Yes 110v- different to the Uk model. You can get multi voltage ones i believe.
Need a step down transformer for each if its 110v
I would only recommend it if you are going over there or know someone who is- and can bring them back as hand luggage.
If you get them shipped you WILL get fucked for import duty and VAT, which will make them a bit more expensive than they would be over here in the first place. Ditto if customs stop you at the airport.
Shipping isnt cheap on them either, and its also riskyf for damage/theft.

You also need to do a bit of haggling and wave cash under store owners noses to get them at a decent price, otherwise you just pay list, and of course you also need to know where to go to get them in the first place

Its a LOT of hassle

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