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Posted by allcentury18 on Dec-11-2005 05:10:

Ableton question

Used ableton for a while to make tracks but tried my first session as a DJ.

i get everything working just fine except of the amount of disk space it requires to do a 2hr mix.

it converts all my mp3s to wav's, why? is it necessary? if i want to do a 60min mix i need like 6gig's...

Posted by Axolotyl on Dec-13-2005 03:20:

What version are you using? I dont think version 4 had mp3 support and as a result huge ammounts of space were needed to DJ with it. If you can get your hands on a copy of 5, you should be fine.

Posted by wood0292 on Dec-13-2005 05:40:

Actually Live 5 converts the mp3s to wav, in version 4 you can't even see mp3s in the browser. It's not that bad though, a 60 min mix you would need about 6-700MB. I use Live 5 to record mixes from my decks, and I still need the same amount of disk space to do that. I am pretty sure most programs handle audio as .wav or some other uncompressed format, as the overhead on doing real-time effects and decompression algorithms on the fly is a waste.
I would much rather sacrifice disk space over throughput any day. Storage is really cheap these days.

Posted by allcentury18 on Dec-13-2005 06:11:

i have 5... i was just wondering if there was a no 'fx' type session i could use for generic mixes. but then again, i guess i'd still be using EQ3 as an fx.

here's an interesting question.

will a 192 MP3 converted to wav be the same disc space as a 320 mp3 converted to wav?

Posted by Vero on Dec-13-2005 06:43:

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Originally posted by allcentury18

will a 192 MP3 converted to wav be the same disc space as a 320 mp3 converted to wav?

like if you have the exact same track at 2 differnt bitrates? yes, they will be the exact same filesize when converted to wav. 320 just retains better sound quality. i wont touch an mp3 less than 320, there is a very noticable difference, even just listening to them in my car.

Posted by No Left Turn on Dec-13-2005 19:46:

i never knew that mp3's get converted to wav. i reckon it's just a temporary thing since i haven't noticed my disk space go berserk. i've never even noticed anywhere on the gui saying how much space is needed for the current session.

Posted by wood0292 on Dec-13-2005 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by No Left Turn
i never knew that mp3's get converted to wav. i reckon it's just a temporary thing since i haven't noticed my disk space go berserk. i've never even noticed anywhere on the gui saying how much space is needed for the current session.

It is temporary, under Windows it goes in the same place as any samples you record. If you remove the clip from the audio track it will ask whether or not you want to delete unused samples when you want to close the track. If you leave it in the track it will stay in the temp folder I think.