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Posted by DaveSZ on Dec-11-2005 10:32:

Beach Breaks Out in Violence - Australians: "No more lebs"

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a...55E1702,00.html

quote:

Beach erupts into violence

December 11, 2005

ANGRY crowds have singled out and bashed people of Middle Eastern appearance at Sydney's Cronulla beach as racial tension erupted into violence.

And an ambulance called to the scene to treat five people injured in today's violence has been attacked by a mob who shattered its windows.

Meanwhile, police have been pelted with beer bottles, and their patrol cars stomped on, as the outnumbered officers struggled to maintain control.

Witnesses saw officers using capsicum spray in a bid to quell those perpetrating the violence.

NSW Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Goodwin said police were forcing their way through the crowd, trying to prevent further attacks.

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Posted by josh4 on Dec-11-2005 18:19:

Why do I have the feeling this is only the beginning?


Posted by tathi on Dec-11-2005 22:21:

we have no time for ethnics in john howards white australia

/bitter sarcasm

this is absolutely pathetic, i'm ashamed and embarrassed at the behaviour of these people


Posted by weymouth on Dec-11-2005 22:43:

I wish the article actually used adjectives to describe who got hurt or who the lifeguards were that got attacked. Every description for both sides is "men", not Anglo-Men then did this or Middle-Eastern Men then attacked but just men. This author couldnt be more vague in this article unless he said human being.

After reading the blogs here it is purely a gang mentality on both sides. The blogs are responding to the beat down of the lifeguards. If you get 6+ people together they will spur each other on to violence. This isnt a Muslim hate crime story, it's a story about gang violence and lack of security at a relaxed beach community.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-11-2005 23:20:

and people wonder why im not patriotic gee i love the australian mentality. what a disgrace. as tathi said, im ashamed.

quote:

This isnt a Muslim hate crime story, it's a story about gang violence and lack of security at a relaxed beach community


if so, why are crowds singling out middle-eastern randoms for a bashing?


Posted by Lepanto on Dec-12-2005 00:23:

did you like, not read the link he posted?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-12-2005 00:33:

^^ bits & pieces. i hate blogs every news proprietor is labelling this as racially motivated. now, im not saying theyre necessarily correct, but it would take more than a blog to convince me otherwise.


Posted by Lepanto on Dec-12-2005 00:35:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
^^ bits & pieces. i hate blogs every news proprietor is labelling this as racially motivated. now, im not saying theyre necessarily correct, but it would take more than a blog to convince me otherwise.


sometimes, however, best news is acquired threw regular people.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-12-2005 00:41:

very true; but when you have a crowd of 1000s, many of whome are chanting anti lebanese or middle-eastern slogans, then im inclined to suspect racial motivation. especially since the bashing of lifeguards by (apparently) lebanese youths.

oh, one of our lovely nazi groups was apparently there to show their support too

link


Posted by Lepanto on Dec-12-2005 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
oh, one of our lovely nazi groups was apparently there to show their support too

link

oh how nice


Posted by tathi on Dec-12-2005 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and people wonder why im not patriotic gee i love the australian mentality. what a disgrace. as tathi said, im ashamed.

other than your shite taste in music we have alot in common!

there's not alot to be patriotic about nowadays is there :| oh well only four more months until i'm living overseas...


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-12-2005 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
other than your shite taste in music we have alot in common!


my new needles should be arriving today, so my very first public promo will be done soon hopefully. you must DL it so you can truly appreciate just how shit my taste is!!

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
there's not alot to be patriotic about nowadays is there :| oh well only four more months until i'm living overseas...


yeah we rock mate where you moving to?


Posted by tathi on Dec-12-2005 01:28:

^^ hehe sure

i'm in the process of getting a TEFL cert (teach english as a foreign language) where i can get the fuck away from computers (my current job ) and travel the world (get the fuck away form howard, downer, etc). i'm looking at Spain or Latin America


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-12-2005 01:35:

well good luck with that! spain ftw obviously


Posted by Lepanto on Dec-12-2005 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
^^ hehe sure

i'm in the process of getting a TEFL cert (teach english as a foreign language) where i can get the fuck away from computers (my current job ) and travel the world (get the fuck away form howard, downer, etc). i'm looking at Spain or Latin America


no...you're going to be looking at Spanish or Latin American ASS


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-12-2005 01:48:

he means ARSE tathi


Posted by occrider on Dec-12-2005 08:14:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
^^ hehe sure

i'm in the process of getting a TEFL cert (teach english as a foreign language) where i can get the fuck away from computers (my current job ) and travel the world (get the fuck away form howard, downer, etc). i'm looking at Spain or Latin America


How ironic. I'm taking an exam for a certification so I can get a job in Australia. Apparentely my industry has a lot of demand there so I would love to live there and just scuba dive all the time . Fucking work permits ...


Posted by Renegade on Dec-12-2005 08:53:

Wow, another large-scale race-riot in Sydney? And you guys had gone all of what - 8 days since the last one?

Seriously though, this is pretty damn pathetic. Some people will try to tell you that what happened yesterday isn't representative of the wider Australian ethos and that Australia is not inherently racist, but after ten years of conservative government, I'm not so sure anymore. The political reaction has been fairly predictable: condemnation of the riots, with the disclaimer that the events of yesterday were committed only by a small, non-representative segment of the community and that such sentiments are not refeclted in the views of "ordinary Australians". What we saw yesterday, however, was merely the physical manifestation of a sentiment that's been widely propogated by members of the media, the government and the public for months now. This was not in isolated incident, just the culmination of a series of smaller, less conspicuous incidents.

It all began after the London bombings, when John Howard came out and demanded that Muslim leaders unequivocally and very publicly comdemn them, under the threat of deportation (which is strange, because I don't ever remember him making similar demands of the priesthood in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks committed during his term by Catholics in Colombia, Spain and Britian). From here, the paranoia very quickly snowballed into the indiscriminate targetting of everything Islamic: from the banning of Islamic literature in bookshops, to discussions about banning hijabs in schools, to Liberal MPs mooting the irredeemable failure of multiculturalism in Australia in op-eds around the country, to a certain Liberal MP suggesting that we return to a policy of vetting potential immigrants on the basis of nationality and religion, to baseless hyperbole about the "clash of civilisations" in this country, to suggestions that "these people" should be forced to integrate with Australian norms and customs (whatever they might be), to widespread (yet completely misinformed) criticism of Islamic theology and practices on talkback radio everywhere.

The government's solution to ease this simmering tension was to introduce a series of laws - not so implicitly targetting Muslims - that would allow them to deport anyone, even Australian citizens, who offered vocal support for the "enemies" of this nation (i.e. "Osama bin Laden is a good man" or "the Iraqi insurgency has a legitimate gripe against Australian soldiers in that nation"), to deport or imprison anyone suspected of "sedition" (i.e. strongly speaking out against the activities and values of the government - I guess I'm fucked then!), to imprison - without having to lay a specific charge - anyone who may have "associated" with a "terrorist group" (the definition of "terrorist group" includes many Muslim charities and virtually any Wahibist / fundamentalist Islamic organisation) and to grant police greater "stop, search and seizure" powers (wonder which religious group is going to bear the brunt of that?). Most Muslim groups expressed concerns about Muslims being targetted specifically by these laws (which is, of course, true) but still, understandably, assented to them (could you imagine the backlash if they had refused to endorse "anti-terror" laws in the current environment?). The laws were also passed with the consent of the ALP, the opposition party, who really haven't offered much genuine opposition to the government's trampling of civil liberties and democratic freedoms under their past two leaders over the past few years.

In short, we have had our politicians (on both sides of the political divide) standing up in front of the Australian flag for months now, unfairly demonising Muslims and Islamic culture, passing Islamophobic laws under the pretence of "protecting our culture". These same politicians then express abject suprise when shirtless, drunken bogans drape themselves in the Australian flag and go trawling along local beaches for Muslim people to kick the ever-loving shit out of? My political friends, you may not have been quite so literal in your own actions, but you've still been doing exactly the same thing for months now. When you set the example of trampling all over an entire ethnic group under the pretense of nationalism, do not act so suprised when your supporters take it to the next, explicitly manifest level. When you create divisions in the community and persecute members of a religion who have done nothing wrong, then you have no right to take the moral highground and condemn what happened yesterday. Like tathi said, Mr Howard: welcome to your Australia.


Posted by occrider on Dec-12-2005 09:13:

What do you know ... you're from Melbourne!!!

Seriously if I moved to Australia it would be Sydney ... I guess I could tell you what's up then


Posted by tathi on Dec-12-2005 09:41:

great post Renegade, summed my thoughts (and added to them) exactly

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
How ironic. I'm taking an exam for a certification so I can get a job in Australia. Apparentely my industry has a lot of demand there so I would love to live there and just scuba dive all the time . Fucking work permits ...

if you're in Sydney i'll show you around to all the good clubs.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Dec-12-2005 09:43:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
if you're in Sydney i'll show you around to all the good clubs.


and beaches where they have riots.


Posted by tathi on Dec-12-2005 09:47:

as long as i keep him away from you and your gang of Triads he'll be safe, Anf :P


Posted by Renegade on Dec-12-2005 11:14:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
What do you know ... you're from Melbourne!!!


But that's how it works over here. I reserve the right to comment on anything that might make Sydney look bad because that is ultimately my primary civic duty as a Melbournian. So while they might make fun of us for our occasionally inclement weather, we can now make fun of them for being a town full of beer-swilling, rugby-watching yahoos who start rioting at the drop of a hat because they've just spent their entire Sunday afternoon doing nothing but drinking beer, watching rugby and acting like yahoos.

See? It's all in good fun...


Posted by InterMilan31 on Dec-12-2005 11:32:

Man this stuff is happening everwhere...i wonder why


Posted by Nostalgic on Dec-13-2005 01:46:

wherever muslims are a race riots ensues

maybe instead of forcing their own culture on the parent country why dont they ASSIMILATE like good immigrants do?


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