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Posted by gasmark9 on Dec-11-2005 11:05:

Music Production which country?

Seen as though you closed my Teisto thread il start a new one and iv done a "search" for this and it doesnt exist.
Do you think a budding dance music producer has more chance of making it big if he comes from Europe as apposed to the U.S.A?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-11-2005 11:07:

These days I don't really think it matters.


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-11-2005 11:10:

For production, i believbe nowadays it is generally irrelevant..

As long as you have talent and a slight understanding of how to get ur tunes heard..


For DJs however.. i think it can have a HUGE difference.


Posted by gasmark9 on Dec-11-2005 11:12:

Yeah cos if you have talent it shouldnt matter where you are.
Why does it make a differnce to a dj?


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-11-2005 11:16:

quote:
Originally posted by gasmark9
Yeah cos if you have talent it shouldnt matter where you are.
Why does it make a differnce to a dj?


Well it depends if the scene in your city, if you get a lot of international support, how large the community of djs is there (competition), etc.

A kickass dj in the middle of the desert no matter how many demos and promos he sends out wont get anywhere if no one has heard him/her spin, and in some cities its very difficult to get those kind of opportunities.


Posted by gasmark9 on Dec-11-2005 11:29:

Tell me about it you should try getting a gig when you live in a small town in the Yorkshire Pennines! like me
You would have thought there would be more US talent in EDM production than there is considering the size of the place tho?


Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-11-2005 11:35:

quote:
Originally posted by gasmark9
Tell me about it you should try getting a gig when you live in a small town in the Yorkshire Pennines! like me
You would have thought there would be more US talent in EDM production than there is considering the size of the place tho?


no americans are happy with their hiphop and bling bling, that's why EDM never broke any serious ground there. Maybe it's the best for trance so to say? Especially since many of the trance producers from the states maintain a very high quality (Christopher Lawrence, Bennison, Deepsky, BT, Descent etc)


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-11-2005 11:39:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
no americans are happy with their hiphop and bling bling, that's why EDM never broke any serious ground there. Maybe it's the best for trance so to say? Especially since many of the trance producers from the states maintain a very high quality (Christopher Lawrence, Bennison, Deepsky, BT, Descent etc)


There is a lot of history which contributes to the fact EDM never got big.. a lot of it has to do with homosexuality, America's policy on drugs etc etc.. However i agree a lot of what comes out of the US is quality.. lets not forget the deep house scene which puts out some best in the world..

The US is just so big. Jesus. so many people in such a massive region.

Edit: Population wise - I bet the USA has the largest active community.... Some food for thought.


Posted by gasmark9 on Dec-11-2005 11:48:

Behold, my arse.

Yeah your probably right. Are the drug laws in the US strict?
Cos i thought they were strict in Europe?
And where do homosexuals come in to it? (no pun)


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-11-2005 11:52:

quote:
Originally posted by gasmark9
Yeah your probably right. Are the drug laws in the US strict?
Cos i thought they were strict in Europe?
And why where do homosexuals come in to it? (no pun)


Americas way of dealing with drugs and the way the media used the images of drugs like extacy killed a lot of potential scene goes before the could even become part of it.

House, one of the 2 american forms of edm started as a predominantly gay run and gay frequented (*not all, just mainly) scene and this is the time of hiv/aids discovery and media exposure, and basically just a large backlash vs gay people. and rap, coming up at the same time, was very anti gay, hence they became very anti house/techno as well.



if im wrong here and someone wants to correct me, feel free to jump in.


Posted by gasmark9 on Dec-11-2005 11:58:

So it looks like they killed it off before it got its roots down.
In england dance music as a gay history Tony De Vit for instance started the hardhouse scene that as now pretty much gone underground again.
Are Americans pretty much into Rap music then?


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-11-2005 12:02:

quote:
Originally posted by gasmark9
So it looks like they killed it off before it got its roots down.
In england dance music as a gay history Tony De Vit for instance started the hardhouse scene that as now pretty much gone underground again.
Are Americans pretty much into Rap music then?


Rap and "Rock"


Posted by gasmark9 on Dec-11-2005 12:07:

Whose big in the Rock scene then?
Lets see if iv heard of them


Posted by Purple on Dec-11-2005 13:02:

quote:
Originally posted by gasmark9
Whose big in the Rock scene then?
Lets see if iv heard of them


XTC and U2 and The Who and Love


Posted by Zombie0915 on Dec-12-2005 13:49:

I have read that in Europe there are huge free EDM festival/parties happening every week. But in the entire north American continent there are only about 2 similar free EDM festival/party type events every year, the rest of the dancing happens inside commercial clubs. I guess that means there are more kids in EU getting their own speakers and throwing their own parties just for the fun of it, but in America there is very little do it yourself type parties and instead they are mostly ran like businesses. It might actually be easier to get an audience over there because there are more people who genuinely enjoy EDM without making any money off of it, but it probably isn't very big of a difference anymore because anyone can put things on the internet now.


Posted by Lepanto on Dec-12-2005 15:16:

I think that no matter where you are you can get your shit heard seeing as how there are talented producers from all over the world.


Posted by Lepanto on Dec-12-2005 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by gasmark9
Whose big in the Rock scene then?
Lets see if iv heard of them


Nowdays? Greenday, My Chemical Romance and such are considered "rock" It also makes me cry to sleep



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