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Posted by nhibberd on Dec-11-2005 16:33:

Compressor trick, how to do it?

Hey all,

I was wondering if there was any way to have a compressor have effect on everything but the kick, but still have the compressor react to the kick.

kind regards,

Charlie Darwin


Posted by djsphere on Dec-11-2005 16:43:

you mean sidechaining everything with the kick?


Posted by nhibberd on Dec-11-2005 16:55:

That's probably what I mean but i'v never heard the therm so I can't say. The effect i'm trying to get is what you hear quite often hear when a phat supersaw pad seems to be crushed by the kick. I know it's possible with a gate 4/4 with short attack and long decay. But i'v tried it and it isn't what I want.

I'v put a kick and pad+lead through a strong 0 attack comp together before with great results, but the kick starts to klick.

any suggestions?


Posted by nec on Dec-11-2005 17:31:

Samples?


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-11-2005 17:42:

Oh dear fucking lord, USE THE SEARCH!

GOD I HATE SIDECHAINING THREADS!


Posted by nhibberd on Dec-11-2005 17:47:

Terribly sorry m8. Didn't realise. But now I know the therm ill look it up.


Posted by RickyM on Dec-11-2005 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Oh dear fucking lord, USE THE SEARCH!

GOD I HATE SIDECHAINING THREADS!


And what exactly was he supposed to search for? He didn't know the term side chaining...so how the fuck else is he supposed to get information on it?


Posted by Chronosis on Dec-11-2005 18:50:

Heh. For exactly this reason, there's a sticky sidechaining tutorial in trance.nu:s production forum.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-11-2005 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
And what exactly was he supposed to search for? He didn't know the term side chaining...so how the fuck else is he supposed to get information on it?

A search for "kick compress", "kick compression" or "kick compressor" would have turned up several results about side-chained compression.

Besides, it irritates me to no end how so many people want to create this horribly lame and annoying effect.


Posted by gr8ape on Dec-11-2005 22:43:

Well we can put in mathematics what sidechaining is

Sidechaining -> Benny Benassi
Benny Benassi -> Gay
Therefore
Sidechaining -> Gay


Posted by Storyteller on Dec-11-2005 23:32:

too bad the ones whom aren't as succesfull as the gay producer mentioned above are complaining the most.

Besides the fact that the topic starter didn't even ask for an opinion.

As others need to use the search, maybe more adolescent persons could refrain from replying to topic # 1001 about the same subject. You guys aren't obligated to reply to topics you find annoying you know. flame all you want, no reply in this topic will come from my side.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-11-2005 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
too bad the ones whom aren't as succesfull as the gay producer mentioned above are complaining the most.

Oh that's great... it's the good ole' "famous/successful people are always right" argument! Let's all entrust our lives to movie stars because they know how things really get done!

quote:
Besides the fact that the topic starter didn't even ask for an opinion.

No, but he asked a very common question that could have been avoided with a search.


Posted by Storyteller on Dec-12-2005 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
flame all you want, no reply in this topic will come from my side.


Should have listened to myself.

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Oh that's great... it's the good ole' "famous/successful people are always right" argument! Let's all entrust our lives to movie stars because they know how things really get done!


Succesfull sounds/methods are always being copied, stop acting like a child with saying stuff like "OMG that shit sucks", nobody needs such a remark, that is for people to figure out themselves.

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut No, but he asked a very common question that could have been avoided with a search.


And if you would have read the rest of my post:
quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
As others need to use the search, maybe more adolescent persons could refrain from replying to topic # 1001 about the same subject. You guys aren't obligated to reply to topics you find annoying you know.


And a little addition to the latest quote: maybe this way people will try to figure it out themselves.
Hooray for only reading the parts you disliked.


edit: Oh and to actually contribute some usefull content for the topicstarter, have a look here (dutch site ).

http://forum.clubcharts.nl/topic/32714/1/20 (reason)
http://forum.clubcharts.nl/topic/31.../20#post1667425 (fruityloops)
http://forum.clubcharts.nl/topic/29412/1/20 (cubase)

Very usefull info about all kinds of methods for side chain compression (normally called ducking).


Posted by zodiac9 on Dec-12-2005 01:49:

I tried sidechaining in FL, fairly simple to set up. I wasn't very impressed though. I probably didn't use the proper settings, seems like yet another skill one has to aquire. I kind of lost interest. It's not something I need right now anyways.


Posted by whiterex on Dec-12-2005 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
A search for "kick compress", "kick compression" or "kick compressor" would have turned up several results about side-chained compression.

Besides, it irritates me to no end how so many people want to create this horribly lame and annoying effect.


Sorry mate,

But I tend to dissagree, I think if done tastefully sidechain compression on pads basses or multiples of things etc. is very relavent and can sound very nice. It can make a song groove and flow that much more. You should relax more Diginut I bet you got big veins popping outta your head But when I say tasteful I dont mean eric prydz call on me or just about any of the hardtrance songs thats just obcene and lame. Tasteful uses of it I think are songs like "blue water" by "black Rock" Arcadia by G&D....


Posted by djlogik on Dec-12-2005 07:24:

Why is it that all you people ever do is start stupid arguments, waste people's time, and spend endless hours doing this same shit. Okay so he didn't use the search option...tell him to use it next time. Second, oh well he wants to learn about sidechaining...let him learn it and make his own sound. Just because you don't like the sound doesn't mean you can't tell him in a more polite way or give him some constructive criticism on the subject. Could everyone just take a more conservative approach to this and be more of a help than just a pain in the ass all the time.


Posted by wayfinder on Dec-12-2005 07:26:

quote:
Originally posted by whiterex
Sorry mate,

But I tend to dissagree, I think if done tastefully sidechain compression on pads basses or multiples of things etc. is very relavent and can sound very nice. It can make a song groove and flow that much more. You should relax more Diginut I bet you got big veins popping outta your head But when I say tasteful I dont mean eric prydz call on me or just about any of the hardtrance songs thats just obcene and lame. Tasteful uses of it I think are songs like "blue water" by "black Rock" Arcadia by G&D....
nono it's always bad you know who else used sidechaining thats right HITLER


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Dec-12-2005 10:32:

quote:
Originally posted by wayfinder
nono it's always bad you know who else used sidechaining thats right HITLER


lol off topic but that was funny


Posted by Reactance on Dec-12-2005 13:05:

quote:
Oh dear fucking lord, USE THE SEARCH!


Posted by DeZmA on Dec-12-2005 15:52:

If you use it in a fair deal it can give some acceptable results and some extra pressure to the groove. If overcompressed like benny you end up with gaysongs indeed.


Posted by slyfoxark on Dec-12-2005 21:16:

Diginut has posted in like 105021515 threads and does it every day and he sees all. He flames on people that ask common questions, but not all of us use the forum every day. Diginut deserves our respect for participating so much, but we deserve his respect (and patience) too. He might respond to this post and flame me, but I won't care.


Posted by zodiac9 on Dec-13-2005 01:30:

I'm new here, and I see that diginut is very active here. I like what he has to say about a lot of things, he has a lot of knowledge to dole out. So he flames people who post before checking the FAQs first or searching. Sure, he needs to chill out, for his own sake more than anything, but I don't care now. Yep, like said here already, since he makes a big contribution here, I'll willing to overlook I'm just going to laugh now when digi says "for fuck sake, another thread about _______ (fill in the blank)".



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