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Posted by _-MIl0 on Dec-11-2005 17:19:

newbs keep this in mind

Just though id post this as allot of newer djs have got the wrong impression when beatmatching, exspecially when using beatcounters. The pitch slider on turntabels are percentage based not tied to bpm. So when ur going down 1 notch its not taking the record from 127 bpm to 126 its taking it down 1% of 127 bpm. So if ur using beatcounters ur still going to have to get a feel for the slider u can just 'Mix by numbers' as iv found some djs beleive they can. That is all hope it helps

Posted by trancecadet on Dec-11-2005 17:26:

everyone should know that bpm counters are inacurate and should only be used as a rough guide..

Posted by _-MIl0 on Dec-11-2005 17:36:

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Originally posted by trancecadet
everyone should know that bpm counters are inacurate and should only be used as a rough guide..
That as well, inless ur using tap counters like the pioneer one thats built into the efx units counters are gonna be off by either a bit or a shitload. And if thur behringer then u can use the number it gives u times by pie cross refrenced to the vector of the moon rotation and multiplied into the final solution for the choas theory and ull get a more accurit number

Posted by s3nate on Dec-11-2005 17:39:

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Originally posted by _-MIl0
That as well, inless ur using tap counters like the pioneer one thats built into the efx units counters are gonna be off by either a bit or a shitload. And if thur behringer then u can use the number it gives u times by pie cross refrenced to the vector of the moon rotation and multiplied into the final solution for the choas theory and ull get a more accurit number

Posted by punjabi on Dec-11-2005 17:50:

Posted by alefort on Dec-11-2005 18:07:

Posted by _-MIl0 on Dec-11-2005 22:30:

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Originally posted by punjabi
points for spelling creativity
thanks i try lol

Posted by RJT on Dec-11-2005 22:32:

Posted by djkoolaide on Dec-11-2005 22:32:

Posted by Clovis on Dec-11-2005 22:35:

Hahah...

My little brother was trying out my CDJ 1000s yesterday...and as hes matching it up in his headphones he gets this real puzzled look.

Me: "What?"

Bro: "Well in the headphones its matched...but this one says 128, that one says 126"

Me: "uh huh and?"

Bro: "Are your CDJs broken?"

Me: "Lawlerskates"

Posted by Basstard on Dec-11-2005 22:46:

awww bless him

least he's beatmatching tho!
he'll be outa nappies soon now

Posted by Clovis on Dec-11-2005 23:17:

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Originally posted by Basstard
awww bless him

least he's beatmatching tho!
he'll be outa nappies soon now

Yeah! Yesterday morning he was fading in and out...now hes matching em up.

Posted by SpecRadio on Dec-11-2005 23:35:

Pioneer CDJ's beat counters are correct.

Posted by Clovis on Dec-11-2005 23:48:

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Originally posted by SpecRadio
Pioneer CDJ's beat counters are correct.

Not always.

Posted by hiram on Dec-12-2005 06:42:

Re: newbs keep this in mind

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Originally posted by _-MIl0
Just though id post this as allot of newer djs have got the wrong impression when beatmatching, exspecially when using beatcounters. The pitch slider on turntabels are percentage based not tied to bpm. So when ur going down 1 notch its not taking the record from 127 bpm to 126 its taking it down 1% of 127 bpm. So if ur using beatcounters ur still going to have to get a feel for the slider u can just 'Mix by numbers' as iv found some djs beleive they can. That is all hope it helps

lol thanks, never knew this. i try not to use the DJM beat counter anyway

Posted by _-MIl0 on Dec-17-2005 05:56:

Re: Re: newbs keep this in mind

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Originally posted by hiram
lol thanks, never knew this. i try not to use the DJM beat counter anyway
Well its best not to use beat counters at all, i find em aight to get a general idea of the pitch differnce, i usually tap my bpm in though welst using my efx500. Though it is true that the pioneer ones are much better then others i would rely on them.

Posted by Vero on Dec-17-2005 06:04:

yeah, same goes for serato. at the top middle of the serato screen there is an indicator that represents the BPM of your track and shows them properly matched when the peaks are aligned and a white line appears between the peaks. this isnt displaying the alignment but just the BPM.

but ill adjust pitch to get all the white lines in place and stable and the tracks are actually at least 1 BPM off.

just goes to show you, the only accurate BPM counter is your ear. ANALOG STYLE BABY YEA!!!!

Posted by _-MIl0 on Dec-17-2005 06:09:

Yea iv noticed that as well, though serato has really gotten my mixing faster i can cue up and match a track in less then 10 seconds now cuz of the bpm matching options in serato. Its good for average bpm buts u gotta rely on ur ear in the end.