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Posted by tmft on Dec-11-2005 19:43:

Austin: Gabriel & Dresden AND no Filo & Peri Review

Gabriel & Dresden: Solid B+ show. G & D started from a cold stop (alwasy brave), & started with their remake of "Dust in the Wind". I adore that song, I hope they put it on their new album. Also played
Here is the House (their remix, not their remake),
Alive
Noone on Earth (crowd favorite)
Tracking Treasure Down (my personal favorite)
Arcadia

G & D honored the sponsors (Tuaca), by doing shots.

I was on fire with the trainspotting. The crowd was enthuastic, even a little too crowded on the dance floor. I will call out JBooty for clinging like a barnacle to the bass speaker in the back (to look at the fish-netted go-go dancers?), as my over-dressed self fended for myself on the dance floor. I will also, completely randomly, call out Zeonfiend for being the second biggest poster after Dirk W, but yet NEVER coming to a show. What's with THAT, Zeonfiend?

Why only a B+? I saw G & D in Houston in August, & for Halloween in SF, & listen to their mixes when I go running. I am a little G & Ded out.

Matthias did a great job opening, people were dancing. I wish I could have talked to Matthias more, but a) it was loud & b) I didn't want to mess up his game with the cute girl he was talking to. I also saw Racing4hoes.

I went to the after-show at Karma, but around 3:30 found out G & D had a 7 am flight so weren't coming.

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Saturday night: Vue (upstairs): Music: A+. Crowd: Not Applicable.

(Edit: the dJ mentioned in the post below is not Filo & Peri)

What if there was an incredible show, & noone came? That's what happened to poor Filo & Peri. Incredible music, good lights, good sound system: noone there. This is why I'm not a promoter--I do NOT know why ~500 people came to see ATB, an extermely mediocre DJ, & perhaps 1/10 that number came to Filo & Peri.

I came superlate, as I was hanging out with a friend who's moving to London. She went home at 1:30 AM, & I thought "great, I can sneak over & catch the end of the show!" NOONE was there. Exactly the sort of music I like, but noone there.
My theories:
insufficient publicity?
everyone tired out from the night before?
Confusing alley entrance?

I don't know, I just don't know.


Posted by tmft on Dec-11-2005 20:05:

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quote:
Originally posted by Screen
Filo & Peri are not well known to outsiders, so what did you expect?


I didn't expect a huge crowd, but I expected more than 10 people. I feel bad for the promoter.


Posted by Matthias on Dec-11-2005 20:22:

Re: Austin: Gabriel & Dresden AND Filo & Peri Review

quote:
Originally posted by tmft
I wish I could have talked to Matthias more, but a) it was loud & b) I didn't want to mess up his game with the cute girl he was talking to.


LOL, I did even catch her name much less her phone number. It was apparent to me her only interest in me was the fact I was playing earlier, if I was there just to see G&D having not of playd I dont think she woulda been as friendly..but who knows.

Don't be afriad to talk to me if ya want tho. I don't have any damn game as it is to mess up


Posted by Matthias on Dec-11-2005 20:23:

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quote:
Originally posted by Screen
hahah

We had Max Graham in summer of 04 and only 30 ppl were present.


*sigh*

Max Graham used to be my hero back in the day. During the past year, he's been producing excrement, layered with coat of mainstream hogwash.


I still dig his sidechain remixes, wish I had more of em besides the one of SToppage Time


Posted by Matthias on Dec-11-2005 20:30:

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quote:
Originally posted by tmft
This is why I'm not a promoter--I do NOT know why ~500 people came to see ATB, an extermely mediocre DJ, & perhaps 1/10 that number came to Filo & Peri.


Unfortunately...thats the way the industry is. The same thing happened when NU NRG was brought. When people see names like Paul Oakenfold, ATB, George Acosta, Bad Boy Bill, Irene, etc on a flyer...the majority will come out cuz of the name recognition.

4 years ago if Armin van Buuren came to TX, he wouldn't have gotten nearly the turnout as he does now because he's built up a name for himself. Whereas Filo & Peri, Andy Moor, Markus Sculz, and the other guys who will probably be big here in the next 2-3 years won't get as much of a turnout now...the only people who really know them are the educated fans and the local djs/producers familiar with his work. I wish it didn't have to be like that, but unfortunately that's the way things are here.

Don't get me wrong..I'm not a promoter myself, just calling it as Ive seen it the last 5 years. Jojo or Sean C would have a better insight on it perhaps.


Posted by Wowsca on Dec-11-2005 22:03:

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quote:
Originally posted by Matthias
Unfortunately...thats the way the industry is. The same thing happened when NU NRG was brought. When people see names like Paul Oakenfold, ATB, George Acosta, Bad Boy Bill, Irene, etc on a flyer...the majority will come out cuz of the name recognition.

4 years ago if Armin van Buuren came to TX, he wouldn't have gotten nearly the turnout as he does now because he's built up a name for himself. Whereas Filo & Peri, Andy Moor, Markus Sculz, and the other guys who will probably be big here in the next 2-3 years won't get as much of a turnout now...the only people who really know them are the educated fans and the local djs/producers familiar with his work. I wish it didn't have to be like that, but unfortunately that's the way things are here.


Well NU NRG had more people i would think than Filo&Peri??..I cant believe i fucking missed it..I had to attend a wedding/party and that took most of my time..driving back from Round Rock was most of the time wasted..but...for some fucking REASON..i got the fucking flyer..and looked at it..but got the dates confused..Fuck!..but yeah Matthias, the promoting for Filo&Peri was wack...i feel bad for Filo&Peri!!..i mean c'mon, what kinda perspective are they going to have now about Austin nextime they are brought. - I just hope they get their own fucking flyer and not added on in small letters with other upcoming events.- If they needed help geting people..i would have gladly handed them fliers out and Made sure they came..even if i had to give out some free party favors.- Mainly im pissed at Self cause( well i was kinda drunk on the way back to down town )..but i should have payed more attention also. *shrugs*


Posted by davemolina on Dec-12-2005 00:04:

Well, it really comes down to promotion. I'm not sure how many flyers were passed out but I didn't see much of anything online and I think I was the only "word of mouth" in SA. If you hype something enough on a vehicle like MySpace, some people will go because the venue is reputable and they will feel its the place to be.

I really wish I could have made it out now but I've been feeling pretty under the weather. I hope Bo & Dom don't have a bad impression of TX.

I'm not a professional promoter, but if I can pull 100 people with no flyers for an upcoming House producer like Jake Childs at a nice San Antonio bar that is known for Conjunto music...someone should be able to pull twice that with Bo & Dom and a venue like Sky/Vue.

My 0.02


Posted by civicstyle on Dec-12-2005 00:08:

it was the promotion, the promoter just doesnt know how to promote in my honest opinion. he is a good guy but just cant get the word out. i wanted to go but was so wasted from gabriel and dresden i couldnt function. damn shame too miss as well

-ryan


Posted by Zeonfiend on Dec-12-2005 00:45:

Re: Austin: Gabriel & Dresden AND Filo & Peri Review

quote:
Originally posted by tmft
I will also, completely randomly, call out Zeonfiend for being the second biggest poster after Dirk W, but yet NEVER coming to a show. What's with THAT, Zeonfiend?


How do you know I wasn't there? I won't be in BDUs at gigs, after all.

I made it to Zabiela at Lizard Lounge as a total incognito, but that's really the last one I've been able to make. I don't exactly have a nice steady 9-to-5 job with guaranteed weekends off, and the Katrina benefit happened in mid-week, which is an absolute impossibility for me to drop in on for any show.

Seriously, I've missed so many shows I've wanted to make, my fury could power a thousand suns. Maybe 2006 will go a bit easier before the Cav goes back to Iraq.


Posted by tmft on Dec-12-2005 04:46:

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quote:
Originally posted by Matthias
Whereas Filo & Peri, Andy Moor, Markus Sculz, and the other guys who will probably be big here in the next 2-3 years won't get as much of a turnout now...the only people who really know them are the educated fans and the local djs/producers familiar with his work.


Markus is pretty big...his set at 10:15 Folsom was probably my favorite of 2004.

Andy Moor? I would LOVE to see him.

Matthias...why didn't you ask her her name?

Dave Molina: Sorry to hear you've been sick.

Remembrance: Yes, Sky has gogo dancers now. They dance on the speakers in the back.

Zeon: some day you'll come to a show.


Posted by Rememberence_ on Dec-12-2005 06:01:

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quote:
Originally posted by tmft
Markus is pretty big...his set at 10:15 Folsom was probably my favorite of 2004.

Andy Moor? I would LOVE to see him.

Matthias...why didn't you ask her her name?

Dave Molina: Sorry to hear you've been sick.

Remembrance: Yes, Sky has gogo dancers now. They dance on the speakers in the back.

Zeon: some day you'll come to a show.


NO ONE SPELLS MY NAME MORE CORRECTLY THAN ME!!! NO ONE!!!

were they teh h0t?


Posted by Matthias on Dec-12-2005 08:39:

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quote:
Originally posted by tmft
Markus is pretty big...his set at 10:15 Folsom was probably my favorite of 2004.


I dont doubt Markus is big.. but I wouldn't know how big of a turnout he would get in Texas. I could be wrong...and perhaps he would get a great turnout; if that is the case then someone really needs to bring him. IMO he owned Armin at Club Spin in South Beach during wmc.

quote:
Originally posted by tmft
Andy Moor? I would LOVE to see him.


Apparently he is playing at WMC this year. I am highly interested in seeing him as well as his productions the past year and a half have been phenominal, as well as his earlier work with Leama. If he keeps up his pace, I predict him being in the top 5 no later than 2007.

quote:
Originally posted by tmft
Matthias...why didn't you ask her her name?


heh...well. *shrugs* I dunno


Posted by Matthias on Dec-12-2005 08:40:

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(regarding the go-go dancers I assume)
quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_

were they teh h0t?


from my limited perspective, one was okay looking...and was looked like she could stand to lose a few pounds. Then again, this is only what I could see from the booth.


Posted by rapfiend03 on Dec-12-2005 15:05:

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quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
NO ONE SPELLS MY NAME MORE CORRECTLY THAN ME!!! NO ONE!!!

were they teh h0t?



rememberence_


Posted by tmft on Dec-13-2005 00:25:

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quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
NO ONE SPELLS MY NAME MORE CORRECTLY THAN ME!!! NO ONE!!!


Yes, Rememberence_

My apologies.

As for the Filo & Peri lack of promotion: I heard an ad on Austin Radio (forget what station) for it.


Posted by 531.am on Dec-13-2005 01:13:

Why oh why was I not informed of them coming to Austin? I would've been there with a shit load of people. I feel bad now those guys deserve a better crowd.


Posted by davemolina on Dec-13-2005 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cubano
Why oh why was I not informed of them coming to Austin? I would've been there with a shit load of people. I feel bad now those guys deserve a better crowd.


What's f*cked up is that you live in the city it went down in and didn't know about it...

That sums up the promotion in a nutshell.


Posted by Carlos Pereira on Dec-13-2005 01:40:

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quote:
Originally posted by Matthias

Apparently he is playing at WMC this year. I am highly interested in seeing him as well as his productions the past year and a half have been phenominal, as well as his earlier work with Leama. If he keeps up his pace, I predict him being in the top 5 no later than 2007.

heh...well. *shrugs* I dunno


Leama & Moor make the sickest duo ever. Everytime I hear "Getting Away (L&M Mix)" by Above & Beyond I get goosebumps all over as to how those two cats managed to pull off such a wicked choon.

I was at HUSH on friday night and had a little convo with the dj there about dance/electronica music in TX. It's pretty sad when you ask someone of that nature if they know who Armin Van Buuren is, and their answer is simply NO. That makes you wonder, as a tranceaddict, if you're living in the right place.

I agree with Matthias about the concept behind the actual "name" of the artist and how it can affect the crowd in a venue. Last year I worked as a Loss Prevention Officer at a department store in Katy and thankfully ran into my partner, who had somewhat of knowledge on trance music. So here goes my happy ass about to bust out talking about this choon, and that choon, Markus Schultz, AVB, Blank & Jones, Danjo & Styles, blah blah blah. His only words were..."HUH?" He knew nothing about the hundreds of dj's that I know. Rather, he knew just the basic names such as Tiesto, PVD, ATB, Oakenfold, and so forth.

It kinda sucks that thats the way it works here. So be it! As long as those brave men from the UK and Europe continue producing the best music they have to offer, then I'm perfectly fine down here. Getting to promote gigs with the names we love (i.e. Schultz, Gab&Dres., Andy Moor, etc.) is a tough challenge here in the states. Only time will tell and we will just have to sit back, relax, and hope and pray that the US will reckon those artists like they do in Europe. As long as we're getting a taste of the music, I'll continue living like a happy camper


Posted by filoandperi on Dec-13-2005 01:55:

i dont understand - we weren't even there.

Bo


Posted by Matthias on Dec-13-2005 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by filoandperi
i dont understand - we weren't even there. the promoter was being shady so i cancelled the gig about 3 weeks ago. we were in NY that weekend, not texas!
Bo


*the plot thickens*


Posted by civicstyle on Dec-13-2005 01:58:

so i didnt miss out, SCORE

quote:
Originally posted by filoandperi
i dont understand - we weren't even there. the promoter was being shady so i cancelled the gig about 3 weeks ago. we were in NY that weekend, not texas!
Bo


Posted by davemolina on Dec-13-2005 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by filoandperi
i dont understand - we weren't even there. the promoter was being shady so i cancelled the gig about 3 weeks ago. we were in NY that weekend, not texas!
Bo


Ummmm...

All I can say is someone in Austin is getting tarred and feathered!!!


Posted by rapfiend03 on Dec-13-2005 03:54:

hey my name's Bo too


Posted by tmft on Dec-13-2005 04:51:

quote:
Originally posted by davemolina
Ummmm...

All I can say is someone in Austin is getting tarred and feathered!!!


& that person would be....ME!

Long story short: I see JBooty's posting that Filo & Peri are coming to town. http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=305160
Jbooty & I also talk in person about the show.

On Saturday, December 10th, I hear a radio announcement that Filo & Peri are at Vue that night.

I go to Vue (late, at 1:30 pm). Noone is there. A DJ is playing. I assume it's filo or peri. It is in fact, not.

All is explained. My extreme mistake. Sorry for inadvertant complete confusion.

I feel as though I should get my Supreme tranceaddict-ness revoked for a screwup big enough the dj comments. Sorry!


Posted by davemolina on Dec-13-2005 06:03:

Pffft...you're exempt from tar and feathers!!!

Edie does no wrong in my eyes : )


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