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Posted by tnt_ on Dec-13-2005 11:31:

new tracklists site

I've started this site a few weeks ago. Its a fresh/modern attempt in building a web archive of dj set tracklists. Its using the same software as wikepedia which allows anyone to become a user and contribute information. I'm still working on the navigation and I'm adding content myself but of course its not enough. Check the site out and if you can provide any help I'd be grateful - its something that will be useful for everyone here I guess.

http://www.tracklists.org


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-13-2005 12:29:

Cool idea.

As you can see from my sig i'm working on a Tiesto equivalent with a bunch of other people. With one main difference that its just over his career - and not his livesets. Just any event he ever played.

If you need someone to regularly spring clean the Tiesto section - i can gladly be of help.

Doing the whole of the scene dance-paradise style is pretty daunting IMO.

Good luck with it.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Dec-13-2005 12:43:

mammoth. i like it. let's hope it gets enough regular support.

THANKS FOR IT.


Posted by Redd on Dec-13-2005 13:14:

Cool, I love the idea. I hate not finding that one track that drives me nuts. Good luck!


Posted by lacksesepsotygh on Dec-13-2005 14:15:

looks great. i hope it'll become big.


Posted by tnt_ on Dec-13-2005 16:32:

thanks to everyone

MichaelBoogerd! thats the idea basically, if a user takes up updating a part of the site (the tracklists for their favorite dj for example) it will keep the site going.


Posted by eRRaTiK on Dec-13-2005 20:03:

how do i add content?

i am teh n00blar.


Posted by Wyndham on Dec-13-2005 20:11:

check this site out

www.tracklists.ca

my buddy made it, its pretty awesome,different format than yours but its already got a shitload of content/tracklists. gonna start streaming sets and live sets off it soon...kinda like etn.com but different styles i think.


Posted by tnt_ on Dec-13-2005 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
how do i add content?

i am teh n00blar.


First of all you must be logged in. Then go to the artist page you want to add a tracklist and click on Edit (its on the top of the page). You'll see the source "wiki" of that page. Add the tracklist title in the page and enclose it in double square brackets [[ ]] e.g.

[[Armin Van Buuren ... bla bla set]]

then click Save and a new link will be created to the page with the title you just posted. Then you just click on the new link, choose Edit once more and just write in your tracklist. Sounds complicated but its much easier in practice.

hint: Try clicking Edit on various pages to see how they are formatted internally so you can do the same.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-13-2005 22:54:

very cool site idea. i like the clean appearance. i'd like to help you with the a ton on this site. having tried to do a couple of the tracklist archive things on TA...it's really hard when you're the only one who can edit things hahaha...so that's really awesome.


is there going to be a certain format that all tracklists will be in? i think that would really keep things going nicely.


Posted by UWM on Dec-13-2005 22:56:

I really like this idea. If you wanted to I'm sure you could get commitments from some of us to manage the tracklists of DJs who we particularly like.

I know I'd help out.


Posted by tnt_ on Dec-13-2005 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller

is there going to be a certain format that all tracklists will be in? i think that would really keep things going nicely.


for the time being I'setting up a proper category system or else the whole thing will become very confusing to navigate through. basically a Tracklist belongs to an Artist which can also belong to a Radio Show or a Live Set and at the same time to a Year (so you can have a full list of all tracklists for a particular year). Artists themselves belong to a Genre (can be more than one). the basic heirarchy is there but it will evolve as the archive grows, thats the fun thing about wiki's - the structure is driven by the users as well as the content. will probably need to have a few moderators as we go along.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-13-2005 23:12:

ok cool...well i think i might have fun with this over break adding sasha and oakenfold haha


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-13-2005 23:15:

By format i think floorfiller is meaning the actual wording of titles, IDs etc.

Coming from a lot of experience writing tracklists... at least i think thats where the point was.

e.g.

Artist name - Event, Location - DD-MM-YYYY

or so. Then no matter where you are on the tracklists site, you know what youre looking at.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-13-2005 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
By format i think floorfiller is meaning the actual wording of titles, IDs etc.

Coming from a lot of experience writing tracklists... at least i think thats where the point was.

e.g.

Artist name - Event, Location - DD-MM-YYYY

or so. Then no matter where you are on the tracklists site, you know what youre looking at.



yeah exactly...


i'm a neat freak ahhaa


kinda like how on Discogs you have to submit it a certain way to get it in there. it would keep the aesthetic look of the site if you could somehow manage a way to control that.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-13-2005 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
yeah exactly...


i'm a neat freak ahhaa


same here... it would just make my skin itch having painstakingly stook to 1 formula writing a beautiful neat list of Tiesto sets, for some random to come along and type

"tiesto in my backyard OMG111 yeah - last night"

01. Tiesto - Traffic
I cant remember the rest.


Posted by tnt_ on Dec-13-2005 23:21:

I dont think there's a direct way of enforcing that but I'll look into it (mediawiki's documentation is huge) and if its not already there it can be customized.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-13-2005 23:23:

Question to the tracklist admin too:

I want to add Tiesto sets... where do you as Admin for the site want me to stop. Is this site for livesets only? Would you include CD releases too? Or just anything you can really get your hands on?

and before i start what about our format question?


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-13-2005 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller

kinda like how on Discogs you have to submit it a certain way to get it in there. it would keep the aesthetic look of the site if you could somehow manage a way to control that.



If each DJ had a big enough fan, who could monitor that section... titles and tracklist format could be edited to suit the general layout.

Thats too much for 1 person to navigate round the whole of EDM... but if there was designated co-ordinators for each DJ.


Posted by tnt_ on Dec-13-2005 23:37:

I guess we should stick to livesets / promo cd's cause albums fall in the domain of discogs. why copy it over if its already done?

as for the format I'm open to suggestions. floorfiller has posted a couple of TL's with the dates in the "Month, DD, YYYY" format. is that good enough MichaelBoogerd!?

also regarding unidentified tracks I guess they should be left as ID as long as the user posting at least posts the right number of tracks - cause maybe someone else will come and update the tracklist sooner or later, but I'd hate to see empty tracklists.


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Dec-13-2005 23:40:

Cool

one final question: Rebroadcasts?

Include them, with reference in the text to where they were originally aired?

Not include them, but make reference in the original... that it was played here, here, here and by golly here too.


Posted by tnt_ on Dec-13-2005 23:43:

Maybe include just the title in the original tracklist. I feel it will be useful when someone is searching for a tracklist and he can't find it at least he will know its a rebroadcast and have the chance to look at the original tracklist. Or maybe on second thought that would cause more confusion? What do you guys think?


Posted by Hendextall10 on Dec-14-2005 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by tnt_
I guess we should stick to livesets / promo cd's cause albums fall in the domain of discogs. why copy it over if its already done?


Great idea, but as you said why reinvent the wheel. http://www.tracklists.ca has been up for a few months now and already has close to 3000 tracklists on it. Why divide the tracklists onto different sites, when we could amalgamate them onto one site and could find everything that we are looking for.


Posted by UWM on Dec-14-2005 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by tnt_
Maybe include just the title in the original tracklist. I feel it will be useful when someone is searching for a tracklist and he can't find it at least he will know its a rebroadcast and have the chance to look at the original tracklist. Or maybe on second thought that would cause more confusion? What do you guys think?




I think at the end of the proper original tracklist you could post a section, something like "Also Known As" or "Also Broadcast these days as this show:"

Something like that?


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Dec-14-2005 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
very cool site idea. i like the clean appearance. i'd like to help you with the a ton on this site. having tried to do a couple of the tracklist archive things on TA...it's really hard when you're the only one who can edit things hahaha...so that's really awesome.


is there going to be a certain format that all tracklists will be in? i think that would really keep things going nicely.

Yeah, I know, it's tough when you can't edit the full tracklists. You never updated my addition, as well as the guy that followed me, in the Sasha Archive

And I was soooo proud of myself, too.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...5&pagenumber=18

Definitely looking forward to this new site once it gets running. Such a pain to find tracklists in the forum on here because half of the time the search doesn't seem to work right. Lots of great work IDing done in there, it's just that there's no organization


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