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Posted by Rebel Brown on Dec-15-2005 23:13:

RP6s or Truth B2031As?

Ok, you might have seen my recent thread about speaker wiring in which I stated that I'm buying some KRK RP6's. I've been doing some research into monitors for my bedroom set up by reading lots of reviews and such, and from what I gathered both sets are really good monitors for their price range. I was pretty much set on the KRKs until I only just realised that the Truth's are �110 cheaper than the RP6s, which is kinda tempting...

My question is, shall I just take the plunge and spend �300 on the RP6s, are they worth the extra cash? Or will the Truth's be sufficient for a year or two until I decide to upgrade? Is there that much of a difference between the two? Questions, questions, questions...

As always, thanks for the help!


Posted by b i n k u n on Dec-16-2005 14:53:

is this for spinning? or production....

if just spinning, i'd go for the truths. reasons:

1) 8in woofer provides more punch in low frequencies
2) cheaper

krk's might be a little more "accurate" in terms of a flat response, but i find that they lack too much in the bass region. i used to own the truths for spinning and they did great.


Posted by Rebel Brown on Dec-16-2005 18:15:

Yeah mostly for spinning, production takes too much time and effort, which I don't have right now


Maybe some time in the not too distant future though I'd like to dabble in production, but at the moment it's a bit daunting.


Posted by punjabi on Dec-16-2005 23:31:

rp8's.


Posted by Vero on Dec-17-2005 06:24:

hmmm, lets see here. behringer or krk? do i really have to answer this question?

shouldnt we all know by now that behringer makes total and complete shit, made to imitate actual quality products.


Posted by b i n k u n on Dec-17-2005 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Vero
hmmm, lets see here. behringer or krk? do i really have to answer this question?

shouldnt we all know by now that behringer makes total and complete shit, made to imitate actual quality products.


but that's where it's debatable...copying a mixer is much more difficult then copying a speaker. the behringer truths look a helluva lot like mackie hr824s but to be honest, you're not going to be able to hear much of a difference unless you are under a controlled environment. mixers on the other hand, you can feel the difference and therefore much more risky with buying an imitation.

for spinning, the truths are more then enough. of course if people have the money, go for the more reputable product, but then the original question was only asking between rp6s and truths.

having heard both these speakers, i still think truths have more bang for their buck in terms of spinning without sacrificing audio quality. rp6s are good studio monitors, but they lack the bass.


Posted by T-Soma on Dec-18-2005 03:34:

When it comes to dj equipment we all know behringer should never leave the bedroom or go beyond being your "beginner" mixer but their studio equipment and speakers are actualy quiet good.
Iv got a eurolive behringer power amp for my party speakers and this amp can be pumping for hours and it still runs cool and smooth. Its very good quality especialy for its price.


Posted by Vero on Dec-18-2005 07:57:

FUCK BEHRINGER!!!! if you have any common sense at all you wont even consider buying these pieces of shit.


Posted by Liamh on Dec-19-2005 10:17:

I can't respect the opinion of anyone who says 'fuck behringer' - Listen you halfwhit.. maybe their dj equiptment is pants but the truth speakers are brilliant. My mate has had a pair for a couple of years now and they eat my �900 system for breakfast in every single aspect. So much so in fact that i'm selling my hi-fi for a pair of these.

For djing in your bedroom or even a rather large room you will never need to go further than the Behringers. They are good speakers and they are reliable. For �190 you really can't go wrong.


Posted by Axolotyl on Dec-20-2005 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
the behringer truths look a helluva lot like mackie hr824s but to be honest, you're not going to be able to hear much of a difference unless you are under a controlled environment.


I seriously hope your not saying that you wouldnt be able to tell the difference between Mackie 824s and Truths. Dude, please. Under any circumstances, there is a huge difference in sound. You pay for what you get.

Looking at expensive monitors for mixing seems un-necessary anyway. You dont want a flat response for mixing, you want the mix to sound as coloured and as enhanced as you deem necessary. Good bass and mid response is desirable, but who cares if it colours it. Your not fine tuning anything, just trying to pick out important details to mix with. In that regard, the truths would be fine I'd say. They have a pleasant enough sound, just not a very flat one which like I said, isnt important for DJing.


Posted by Vlad on Dec-20-2005 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Vero
FUCK BEHRINGER!!!! if you have any common sense at all you wont even consider buying these pieces of shit.


Ahh, ignorance is bliss.


The Behringers are actually quite a good speaker, but as someone told me previously - they are just a very high end bookshelf speaker - Strictly for DJing, they are good speakers. On the other hand, if you are thinking about producing - you might want to reconsider.

Also, you might want to try to buy from a US store rather than a UK store because you might be able to get a better deal.


Posted by Vlad on Dec-20-2005 05:45:

Heres a thread I posted in the Production forum in regards to the Behringer's, as well as Event monitors.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=306897


Posted by Anomyst on Dec-20-2005 06:23:

http://www.storedj.com.au/products/product.php?id=798

I am going for these ones, they sound beautiful and have a remote!


Posted by Vero on Dec-20-2005 07:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Ahh, ignorance is bliss.


douche


Posted by T-Soma on Dec-20-2005 07:53:

What experience with behringer have you had?
Or are you comments just from what you have heard?


Posted by Vero on Dec-20-2005 08:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
What experience with behringer have you had?
Or are you comments just from what you have heard?


considering that i have built recording studios, full club and concert hall pa systems, dj booths, and put together more PA racks than i care to comment on, i have never heard a piece of behringer gear that didnt hiss and pop and make every other peice of audio gear hooked to it sound like complete ass.

as for these monitors, i will admit that i have never spent more than 5 minutes listening to them, i would never ever own or use or recomend anything behringer. anyone who knows PA equip will tell you to stay away from behringer.

i agree that the rp6s dont have much low end response, but i think you would be better off with something like the BX8s or BX8As from m-audio for a low power booth monitor, they have a good bass response and some nice clean highs for nearfields, the mids get a little muddy on them, but for the price i dont think they can be beat.


Posted by T-Soma on Dec-20-2005 08:14:

Well i guess you have a valid point but it doesnt beat the fact that their are many people who have behringer equipment and still love it.
Iv only used an amp and tested a few speakers so i guess you have more experience.
Their are alot of people who go and say a certain brand is sh*t when they havnt used it though.


Posted by mikefasssy on Dec-20-2005 08:22:

every speaker is different and will sound different depending on what environment it is in. go to an audio store and test out a bunch of pairs for yourself and buy the ones that you think sound right. after that its up to you to make good sounding tunes, equipment can help only so much. clearly not a lot of tits realize this as they still make shite music but seem to have dope gear.


Posted by b i n k u n on Dec-20-2005 12:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
I seriously hope your not saying that you wouldnt be able to tell the difference between Mackie 824s and Truths. Dude, please. Under any circumstances, there is a huge difference in sound. You pay for what you get.



haha of course not. i've had experience with both and yes there is a difference between the two. what i was getting at is in a DJ environment at home, there is not much point in getting the mackie 824s. especially when it costs over twice the price.

of course u get what you pay for, of course KRK has a better rep then behringer, of course there are high end models that are near perfect...but there is such a thing as overkill. for spinning, you have no need for the flattest response possible. you don't need monitors with million wattage and what not. all you do need is to hear what you are playing, and the truths do a fine job with that without exaggerating too much in any given frequency range.

and keeping in mind the author of the thread asked for a choice between RP6s and the truths...taking into consideration money and purpose, that's why i suggested the truths. its not rocket science...


Posted by Vlad on Dec-20-2005 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Vero
better off with something like the BX8s or BX8As from m-audio for a low power booth monitor, they have a good bass response and some nice clean highs for nearfields, the mids get a little muddy on them, but for the price i dont think they can be beat.



Youre getting way too technical. I have to say though the new M-Audio BX series is really good for what it costs. BT raves about the BX5a's and how much he loves them.

Phil have you played with the Event ASP8 monitors? Im in love with them.


Posted by Axolotyl on Dec-21-2005 05:21:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
haha of course not. i've had experience with both and yes there is a difference between the two. what i was getting at is in a DJ environment at home, there is not much point in getting the mackie 824s. especially when it costs over twice the price.



OK, yeah totally agree there mate. Anything pricier and more accurate than Truths for DJing... I just dont see the point really.

The poster of this thread should also consider that a lot of monitors can tire out your ears prematurely as the frequencies are sometimes too harsh to listen to for more than 2-3 hours at a time. And thats not exactly something you can test instore either, just becareful when buying monitors such as the KRK's for recreational use.


Posted by sr126 on Dec-21-2005 10:43:

i would say go for the krk's. i mix on my krk v8's and i love it. it's pure listening pleasure. i can't even begin to describe how much this means to me, and part it plays in fueling my fervor for music.

but it really depends on the gear you have...
if you have ok gear ie cheap/mid level mixer, TT's & carts... then go for the truths. if you have a pimp gear, then you pretty much obligated to get pimp monitors to do your gear justice. to get maximum value out of your gear, it needs to match from the from the needle all the way to monitor.

it's not worth having krk's hooked up to a crappy mixer. that's like throwing 22" chrome spinners on an 88 toyota trecel w/a motor running on 3 cylinders... as you can see buying rims for a shitmobile is just an exercise in throwing away money.


Posted by Andrew K on Dec-21-2005 12:17:

I for once have the Truths and have been really satisfied. The bass is awesome, while it miiight get a bit blurry around mid-high freqs.
A great value for price anyway



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