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Something interesting about Armin's gigs

I've recently received insight into the planning of one of Armin van Buuren's gigs. Or let's say i got to know something odd and dirty. Other DJs playing in the line-up before Armin at this particular event were advised by Armin's local booking agency (by phonecall) to play at a speed of 130 BPM (it was a all-Trance partynight!!!) and not to bounce the crowd, i.e. to play rather decent tracks. For more they were told not to play tracks issued on Armin's Armada Label. IMO this is a real cheek! I don't want to blame Armin for this, probably he even didn't know these calls were made, but this is just embarrassing for his booking agency. These people seem not to be convinced that Armin can excel in his gigs in spite of the performances of other DJs playing on the same event. It is a dirty business: either you are a star or you are treated as nothing by the ones above you. As I pointed out, I am not blaming Armin himself! His set was very good, as expected. But his managers are kind of silly people...

How do other TA's think about this issue?

BTW I got my information first-hand.

Re: Something interesting about Armin's gigs

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Originally posted by Trancegen I don't want to blame Armin for this, probably he even didn't know these calls were made

yeah right

when tiesto played here he wanted that no trance dj plays before him, so the warmup was slow dirty prog! not that i didn't like it :-) but i think it's normal that warmup dj's are called not try to steal the "star" of the night the show

Armin is afraid that someone could be more banging/rocking than he... LOL

i don't see why you are suprised really.

I can understand not playing tracks from Armins label. If the warmup DJ whores all the labels tunes, its kinda stupid.

Recent stuff anyway. Playing old stuff from the label would be ok, just not the latest new promos.

To be honest this is just standart stuff for warm up djs? It does seem a bit surprising to know the booking agency would actually tell them to do that, but it's nothing more than a warm up dj with brains would do?

Marketing > the dj�i.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 To be honest this is just standart stuff for warm up djs? It does seem a bit surprising to know the booking agency would actually tell them to do that, but it's nothing more than a warm up dj with brains would do?

Sadly, the art of warming up properly is one that less and less DJs master.. Most bedroom DJs only have that peak-time two hour slot in their minds when practicing at home.

But still, you're right.. I'd expect a warm up DJ to do what he's hired for, warming up, too. Not banging the brains out of everyone at 10 PM.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 To be honest this is just standart stuff for warm up djs? It does seem a bit surprising to know the booking agency would actually tell them to do that, but it's nothing more than a warm up dj with brains would do?

Warm-up DJs? Calling the two DJs, who played before Armin, Warm-up DJs is almost an offence.

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Originally posted by Trancegen Warm-up DJs? Calling the two DJs, who played before Armin, Warm-up DJs is almost an offence.

hate to burst bubbles, but unless it's a festival-type event, if dj x playes before dj y, x is warming shit up.

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Originally posted by basdSadly, the art of warming up properly is one that less and less DJs master.. Most bedroom DJs only have that peak-time two hour slot in their minds when practicing at home. But still, you're right.. I'd expect a warm up DJ to do what he's hired for, warming up, too. Not banging the brains out of everyone at 10 PM.

absolutely correct on this. warm-up djs, like closers, are part of building up the night.

in regards to an earlier post, i've seen all types of djs open for tiesto, but he prefers proggy types 'cause he knows they work better in context; noel sanger, for example, is a teriffic dj whose style works great opening for tiesto.

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Originally posted by Trancegen Warm-up DJs? Calling the two DJs, who played before Armin, Warm-up DJs is almost an offence.

if the played before armin on the same night, then they are warming up for him. i dont think its offensive to them, its not like they didnt know they were warming up the crowd for armin

Oh and then people wonder why he SUCKS COCK! disgrace, not a DJ.

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Originally posted by Trancegen Warm-up DJs? Calling the two DJs, who played before Armin, Warm-up DJs is almost an offence.

Well i don't know exactly what context it was. But unless they were also event headliners and/or had much longer playing time than Armin, that's their role. "Warm up dj" isn't an offence, it's an under-rated job that is one step from being a headliner dj.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 Well i don't know exactly what context it was. But unless they were also event headliners and/or had much longer playing time than Armin, that's their role. "Warm up dj" isn't an offence, it's an under-rated job that is one step from being a headliner dj.

i think he's getting to the point that any warm up DJ is obviously better than armin.

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Originally posted by Lepanto i think he's getting to the point that any warm up DJ is obviously better than armin.

yes, and?

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Originally posted by basd Sadly, the art of warming up properly is one that less and less DJs master.. Most bedroom DJs only have that peak-time two hour slot in their minds when practicing at home. But still, you're right.. I'd expect a warm up DJ to do what he's hired for, warming up, too. Not banging the brains out of everyone at 10 PM.

Well said M8, some of the locals near me could learn to take your advice...

It's just too bad more DJ's don't understand the art of warming up, if they did, booking agencies wouldn't have to lay down specific rules for opening DJ's...

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Originally posted by paranoik0 yes, and?

yes, and what? Speak full, coherent, sentences!

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Originally posted by Fearless One Armin is afraid that someone could be more banging/rocking than he... LOL

Who couldn't? Anybody can play a better tracklist than him. ASOT is the same songs over and over every week.

this happens most of the time in this industry

remember when j00f did a review of one of the gig he went at ?
he was talking about the warm up dj before him who was playing like crazy burning people's energy before him... even playing j00f's tracks.

i think its totally understandable

btw, telling the dj to play at 130bpm only means to not play crazy hard party tracks at 140

haha same thing with Paul Oakenfold when he was in Vancouver...
his manager was on stage for 3 hours before Pauls set just to monitor the BPM counter...
then as soon as it hit over 133 bpm then the manager would flip

but i can understand why some big djs do this
just incase a city is into hardtrance more than prog (just as an example)... i think its a good idea to have djs before him that dont spin hardtrance...then as soon as the big dj starts to play banging tracks...itll seem harder compared to the tracks before that were being spun by the prog djs... if i were a promoter id abide to it and leave all the banging locals for last.

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Originally posted by DJ Charlie this happens most of the time in this industry remember when j00f did a review of one of the gig he went at ? he was talking about the warm up dj before him who was playing like crazy burning people's energy before him... even playing j00f's tracks. i think its totally understandable btw, telling the dj to play at 130bpm only means to not play crazy hard party tracks at 140

yeah i remember that article too. though J00f did complain because the dj before him played hard house at very high bpm. then when it was time for j00f to take over, and for those who knows j00f, he always starts out with a slow progger and then moves on to faster and harder stuff.

If the point of going to see a DJ play is to spectate, then yeah, the warm-up DJ has an obligation to not outshine the star everyone's paying to see, as with any concert. They're shelling out 20-60 bux to see the headliner, not the opener. Check yo' ego, man!

i like warming up, i get to spin my deeper stuff. build it up, i also like palying peak, you know, play the big ones.. then closing is great too, as hard as you can go...


fuck i think i just to spin the whole night....

Matt Darey is a similar gimp that sends lists of stuff he plans to play so others on before him don't.

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