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Posted by girllovingtvibe on Dec-19-2005 21:36:

Polar bears drowning in the artic - this is sad....

Polar bears drowing in Arctic
LONDON, Dec. 18 (UPI) -- Scientists have uncovered evidence that polar bears are drowning because climate change is melting the Arctic ice shelf.

According to a report in the Sunday Times of London, researchers were startled to find bears having to swim up to 60 miles across open sea to find food. They are being forced into the long voyages because the ice floes from which they feed are melting, becoming smaller and drifting farther apart.

Although polar bears are strong swimmers, they are adapted for swimming close to the shore. Their sea journeys leave them vulnerable to exhaustion, hypothermia or being swamped by waves.

The newspaper said four bear carcasses were found floating in one month in a single patch of sea off the north coast of Alaska, where average summer temperatures have increased by 2 to 3 degrees since 1950s.

The scientists believe such drownings are becoming widespread across the Arctic, a consequence of the doubling in the past 20 years of the proportion of polar bears having to swim in open seas.

source: http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.p...18-091016-8970r


Posted by simms327 on Dec-19-2005 21:52:

this is sad....

if this isnt evidence of global warming what is

the record number of droughts in the past 5 years

the record number of strong hurricanes

when will people wake up and smell the greenhouse gas...


Posted by mushyflowa on Dec-19-2005 22:06:

Re: Polar bears drowning in the artic - this is sad....

quote:
Originally posted by girllovingtvibe
Average summer temperatures have increased by 2 to 3 degrees since 1950s.


!!!


Posted by Refinnej on Dec-19-2005 22:07:

It saddens me when I hear things like this. I heard there are not even 300 polar bears left in the world


Posted by DigitalMP on Dec-19-2005 22:12:

Re: Polar bears drowning in the artic - this is sad....

It is very sad, but we have been thawing out of an ice age for 10,000 years.

And as for the number of hurricanes, we just barely passed a number that was hit back in what, 1930? So it's not really that farfetched.


Posted by Yohan on Dec-19-2005 22:13:

Re: Re: Polar bears drowning in the artic - this is sad....

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
It is very sad, but we have been thawing out of an ice age for 10,000 years.

Yep.

The earth has been warming up for quite a while now.


Posted by ghetto_fab on Dec-19-2005 22:25:

Don't quote me on it but I think I remember seeing a show on global warming a while back. they said when the climate changed in the arctics then it will bring water levels up and eventrually florida and california will be small islands. something to look into. Sad that the polar ber drowned aswell. I would think they will learn to adapt to it as time goes on.


Posted by Refinnej on Dec-19-2005 22:34:

WWF has an "Adopt a Polar Bear" program
http://www.wwf.ca/en/PolarBearCentr...ear/default.asp


Posted by Yohan on Dec-19-2005 22:37:

I don't like polar bears.

First time I saw sex was when polar bears were going at it at Marineland when I was like 10.

It scarred me for life.


Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Dec-19-2005 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
I don't like polar bears.

First time I saw sex was when polar bears were going at it at Marineland when I was like 10.

It scarred me for life.


looool


Posted by tatgirl on Dec-20-2005 09:59:

The world is F*CKED within 50 years, unless drastic measures are changed with the way we live our lives. There's NO WAY I'm bringing a child into the world just to face droughts, water shortages, NYC being swallowed up by a tsunami, more earthquakes, and all that other glorious stuff. Its gonna be a scary place. We're killing the earth.


Posted by zokissima on Dec-20-2005 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by simms327
this is sad....

if this isnt evidence of global warming what is

the record number of droughts in the past 5 years

the record number of strong hurricanes

when will people wake up and smell the greenhouse gas...

This is no more evidence of global warming than any other criteria you just posted. The Earth goes through natural cycles of strong weather systems. It's just that we're a little early into this one.
Whether global warming is or isn't happening, there is really very little that can be done about it. We all try to impose all sorts of restrictions on, for example, car emissions, factory emissions, what's allowed in certain decomposing products, what is not, but all of them are just that; restrictions. No matter who agrees or disagrees, we're still pumping countless tons of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere every year. And we're aware of it. That's not a solution, that's just a prolonging of the inevitable. I don't really understand what you mean by the comment "when will people wake up and smell the greenhouse gas".
What is it that you think will happen? THat miraculously new technologies will just emerge to completely replace current manufacturing, producing, whatever, infrastructure? And that someone, just out of the goodness of their hearts will foot the bill? A change of that magnitude will require a catalyst of a like magnitude, and until some crazy disaster like that happens, we probably will just continue on our marry polluting way.


Posted by tatgirl on Dec-20-2005 16:06:

Global warming IS happening- to doubt it is foolish. While we can't 'stop it', we can delay it. It will be ages b4 N. America gets on the electric car bandwagon like Europe, but doing simple things like using those long-lasting energy saving bulbs and LED bulbs reduces a SH*TLOAD of emmissions- you'd be surprised.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-20-2005 17:05:

The funny thing about global warming is that we won't know for sure, whether life on this planet is completely fucked until it's too late. While there's evidence of the Earth's temperature slowly rising annually, the blame can't be solely put on us.

Having said that though, I do believe we're killing this planet, and while I don't wanna point fingers...it's pretty obvious who the main culprit is.


Posted by Yohan on Dec-20-2005 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
The funny thing about global warming is that we won't know for sure, whether life on this planet is completely fucked until it's too late. While there's evidence of the Earth's temperature slowly rising annually, the blame can't be solely put on us.

Having said that though, I do believe we're killing this planet, and while I don't wanna point fingers...it's pretty obvious who the main culprit is.


My main concern is not global warming, but stuff like pollution, deforestation, etc. Things that we can do something about.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Dec-20-2005 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
My main concern is not global warming, but stuff like pollution, deforestation, etc. Things that we can do something about.


It's all tied together in one way or another though.


Posted by Yohan on Dec-20-2005 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
It's all tied together in one way or another though.


Not to the degree that radical enviros would like to put it.


Posted by Dancing*Queen on Dec-20-2005 18:00:

Polar Bears have been my favourite animal since I can remember. I used to beg my parents for one, but they always said no

I have thought about adopting one in the past but with the way their habitat is being depleated adopting one, won't save one if they have nowhere to live.

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
The world is F*CKED within 50 years, unless drastic measures are changed with the way we live our lives. There's NO WAY I'm bringing a child into the world just to face droughts, water shortages, NYC being swallowed up by a tsunami, more earthquakes, and all that other glorious stuff. Its gonna be a scary place. We're killing the earth.


I agree....If something isn't done soon, there will be nothing left for the future generations.


Posted by DigitalMP on Dec-20-2005 18:04:

Save a tree - plant ten.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Dec-20-2005 18:15:

tat: eww NYC/tsunami: omg that's effin scary...

this whole global warming is such a creepy thing, its really sad that we destroy our own world....any good ideas on how to help on an individual level? (besides using public transpo, b/c I already do)....


Posted by Ub3rBreaker on Dec-20-2005 18:19:



i blame USA and China


Posted by Refinnej on Dec-20-2005 22:17:

Polar bears are my main concern Not trees, forests, and the environment


Posted by Jem_hadar on Dec-21-2005 00:30:

Re: Re: Polar bears drowning in the artic - this is sad....

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
It is very sad, but we have been thawing out of an ice age for 10,000 years.

And as for the number of hurricanes, we just barely passed a number that was hit back in what, 1930? So it's not really that farfetched.


Exaclty. The bulk of any temperature change is highly likley to be a result of a larger climate pattern on this planet (larger in teh sense of thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of year cycles).

I do not believe for a second that this general warming of the earth temps is solely and mostly the caues of "our" influence.

also, note that many ice berges are also expanding and not melting/shrinking.

this is a natural thing... sucks for the polar bears though

Jem.


Posted by ninjahola on Dec-21-2005 00:46:

So Sad....

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So cute


Posted by Shamen DJ's on Dec-21-2005 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
Global warming IS happening- to doubt it is foolish. While we can't 'stop it', we can delay it. It will be ages b4 N. America gets on the electric car bandwagon like Europe, but doing simple things like using those long-lasting energy saving bulbs and LED bulbs reduces a SH*TLOAD of emmissions- you'd be surprised.


Most places in Southern Ontario just had their hottest summer since records began in 1840. While we did not reach the highest temperatures ever recorded ( 106 for 7 straight days in Toronto & Windsor, 109 in Hamilton in 1936 ) the average temperature for the entire season last summer was warmer than even that year. Alot of farmers in Southern Ontario, especially in Essex & Kent Counties were seriously hurt from last summer. So far though most of the really serious obvious consistant warming has been in the west, especially with the 5 year drought & the resulting forest fires covering most of the Rocky Mountains lasting from 2000 - 2005. Most of the west has not suffered a real severe winter in well over a decade. Changing weather patterns caused by global climate change are causing the jet stream to more frequently to rise up over the west, and to dive over the east bringing arctic air with it, which is why eastern Canada has not seen the consistant warming much of the world has had. This was actually the dominant weather pattern during the vicious alltime record cold 1977 winter ( while many ski resorts in the Rockys were closed from lack of snow & Alaska was warmer than Toronto ), the cold 2003 winter, and during this month as well.


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