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question for those of you who made the transition from vinyl to CDs

im guessing eventually everyone switches to CDs or will be forced to in the future. those of you who have switched over how did you do it? did you switch over all in one shot or did you use both Cds and vinyl together? and how the hell did you save up for those CDJs while still buying new vinyl?!

i use both cd's and vinyl together.

how did i do it? i put my life hold, and tried to everything i could to save money... and i mean everything... from not on spending money on lunch at work, (erm... i mean fasting during the day...) and stripping my car to reduce weight in order to save gas. i even gave the girl i was going out w/at the time the boot.

i haven't spent anywhere near the amount of money i used to on music.

it's been worth it. i just wish i had more cash to spend on music (at the very least) while buying equipment... i got bit by G.A.S pretty hard this time around. (Gear Aquisition Syndrome)

the worst part is... i thought i would be done now. but i was wrong, now i want 2 more m5g's and more 2 cd players. (or maybe a second dual deck) that's on top of the fact that want to buy a couple of keybords, and modules...


fuck...

lol girls are expensive, and almost never approve of their b/f being a DJ

I'm still learning with CDJs but to find it easier than Vinyl and prefer handling CDs to handling vinyl which gets all smudged up from handling it, attracts lots of dust and is $$. So nice to get WAV files now too, sound just as good, if not better than vinyl. Like vinyl without all the crackling and popping basically. CDs are definitely the future.

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Originally posted by hiram lol girls are expensive, and almost never approve of their b/f being a DJ

but a girl's reason for not having their bf be a dj is because they get action and are popular with other girls. fear of competition!...

I use both now. I don't even have a way to play CDs at home, so I use them strictly at gigs.

the main thing i don't liike about cd's is that i'm not able to skip thru songs like i can on vinyl. i have to set there and turn the wheel, and wait.

not only that... you can't visually cue breakdowns, or other parts of a song. you have to have a good idea what time it is on a cd player.

maybe there are functions for that too, i don't know, i still haven't read my manual.

i DO LOVE the pitch up/down buttons on my cd player, it allows me to kick the pitch up or down ever so slightly w/out having to use the pitch slider, and risk loosing my sweet spot on the slider.

i use the reset button and the +8/+16 buttons on the m5g to do the same thing, but it's better on the cd player.

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Originally posted by alligator but a girl's reason for not having their bf be a dj is because they get action and are popular with other girls. fear of competition!...

exactly.. but its a beautiful thing =)

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Originally posted by sr126 the main thing i don't liike about cd's is that i'm not able to skip thru songs like i can on vinyl. i have to set there and turn the wheel, and wait. not only that... you can't visually cue breakdowns, or other parts of a song. you have to have a good idea what time it is on a cd player. maybe there are functions for that too, i don't know, i still haven't read my manual. i DO LOVE the pitch up/down buttons on my cd player, it allows me to kick the pitch up or down ever so slightly w/out having to use the pitch slider, and risk loosing my sweet spot on the slider. i use the reset button and the +8/+16 buttons on the m5g to do the same thing, but it's better on the cd player.

what cd players have you used? they have cue buttons, the wheel for jogging through a song and skip phrase by phrase. if you're using denon or pioneer cdj (800 or 1000mkII) it's very easy to cue and search through a song. you can set your cue and then listen to the song a bit more to get an idea about it...but when it comes time to mix it in...it's a button away from the cue point.

it's faster to mix with cd players due to the little gaggets that it presents. they also give more variety and numerous tricks .

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Originally posted by alligator but a girl's reason for not having their bf be a dj is because they get action and are popular with other girls. fear of competition!...

dating a girl while being a working dj sucks, they never want to come out because unfortunately, to her not to me, part of being a working dj involves "working the room"

you shake hands, talk to the guys, flirt wtih the girls

that old song and dance...

unfortunately, to me this time, girlfriends don't like the whole flirting/talking to the female species all that much... especially big boobed blonde females... whole other story


as for the question, i play both cds and vinyl right now, spend most on cds, a little on wax here and there

i can't wait to get a pair of cdj 1000's but gotta save up some $ first.

i bought one cd player and mixed with both, and then stopped buying vinyl to save for the next one. Then once I got the second one I have only bought 2 vinyls. its very nice, but the thing is, every cd dj checks out teh same sites as you, so you will find a lot of similar songs between djs, unless you like know people n stuff.

i bought cdjs, never looked back. i still use cd and vinyl, but i find that my mixes are 100x smoother and cleaner sounding when i use cdjs instead of vinyl. the only thing i don't like about cdjs is that i use beatport as a source for music... but nowadays everyone uses it, so like boomer said a lot of the tracklists of cd-djs start to look similar.

(for example, a lot of times i find a semi-obscure tune on beatport and say to myself, YEAH! this is a gem! nobody knows about this tune.. and then i look at the dj promotion section and three djs have them in their mix)




unless you like know people n stuff.

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Originally posted by sr126 the main thing i don't liike about cd's is that i'm not able to skip thru songs like i can on vinyl. i have to set there and turn the wheel, and wait. not only that... you can't visually cue breakdowns, or other parts of a song. you have to have a good idea what time it is on a cd player.

WTF????

Dude, have a look at a cdj1000 it does all the above thinks and much more ........

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Originally posted by alligator what cd players have you used? they have cue buttons, the wheel for jogging through a song and skip phrase by phrase. if you're using denon or pioneer cdj (800 or 1000mkII) it's very easy to cue and search through a song.

Yeah, but not as easy as picking up the arm and dropping it. I believe that's what sr126 is referring to, and I wholeheartedly agree.

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Originally posted by Trogdor Yeah, but not as easy as picking up the arm and dropping it. I believe that's what sr126 is referring to, and I wholeheartedly agree.

not as easy?....i don't recall having a digital display for time on a turntable.
a dj (good dj) practices at home his music...therefore he has a fair good idea where thigns change within a song (aprox time wise)...therefore it's a piece of cake to cue the song at the right beat. second...once you cue you can use the jog wheel to master the right spot where to start the song. then once you press the cue button and play the song it starts at the right speed (if set up that way).

are you kidding? cdjs are much easier than a turntable.

i was reading through another thread in this forum about CDJ's being over priced. ive checked prices for pioneers but never checked any other brand. then i started to reada bout Denon. is any brand better than the other?

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Originally posted by alligator not as easy?....i don't recall having a digital display for time on a turntable. a dj (good dj) practices at home his music...therefore he has a fair good idea where thigns change within a song (aprox time wise)...therefore it's a piece of cake to cue the song at the right beat. second...once you cue you can use the jog wheel to master the right spot where to start the song. then once you press the cue button and play the song it starts at the right speed (if set up that way). are you kidding? cdjs are much easier than a turntable.

Or you can look at the grooves and drop a needle. Sorry, but it doesn't get any easier than that. The method of cueing CDs is quite a bit more complex, that is undisputable.

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Originally posted by Trogdor Or you can look at the grooves and drop a needle. Sorry, but it doesn't get any easier than that. The method of cueing CDs is quite a bit more complex, that is undisputable.

i agree i couldnt get the hang of a cd deck ive give up for now eventually i will buy one though and learn to use it.

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Originally posted by Trogdor Or you can look at the grooves and drop a needle. Sorry, but it doesn't get any easier than that. The method of cueing CDs is quite a bit more complex, that is undisputable.

undisputable? well I guess we should stop discussing and disputing this undisputable fact.
it's already been disputed in this thread, and I'd dispute it as well. cueing and positioning is a hell of a lot easier on a cd. set yuour point, press a single button to get back to it whenever you want, wave displays and the like make it every bit as obvious as on a record

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Originally posted by Spirit5 I'm still learning with CDJs but to find it easier than Vinyl and prefer handling CDs to handling vinyl which gets all smudged up from handling it, attracts lots of dust and is $$. So nice to get WAV files now too, sound just as good, if not better than vinyl. Like vinyl without all the crackling and popping basically. CDs are definitely the future.

It is the sound of Vinyl which many people love though, Obviously not the hissing and popping but the additional noise that vinyl has is (in my opinion) not a bad thing.. Unless it's a messed up vinyl in which case obviously it'll sound worse.

I had the usual dilemma of whether to choose vinyl or cd decks. I chose Vinyl as i liked the whole idea of manipulating the cinyl etc. Lifting the needle and dropping it down again, no fancy cue'ing tricks or looping capabilities.

Having said that, it has cost me a lot and i'd love to own more vinyl. However, with serato around turn tables will definitely survive (again IMO) and not that that is the question of this thread.

However i've always been tempted to start saving for some cdj's. But for some reason i don't want to be drawn in by them. Partially as i'm guessing i'm worried i'll slowly stop using my turntables

Anyway, i'm happy with the choice i made, Serato should make thinks a little more fun for me as well

nelly

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Originally posted by tubby undisputable? well I guess we should stop discussing and disputing this undisputable fact. it's already been disputed in this thread, and I'd dispute it as well. cueing and positioning is a hell of a lot easier on a cd. set yuour point, press a single button to get back to it whenever you want, wave displays and the like make it every bit as obvious as on a record

I'm referring to setting the cue point, which is simpler and easier (or at least quicker) on a record. I don't understand how anyone can say otherwise. Actually, no one has disputed this, at least in this thread. I (as well as sr126 and sleepydragon) refer to one thing, then people reply, completely ignoring the original statement, not even trying to explain why cueing on a CD player is easier. People are so touchy.

for the record... i just dusted off my manual. the only way to scan thru a song, or do any kind of cueing (other than playing the track from the begining) i have to scan thru the song using the jog wheel.

on a dnd-4500 there is no way cue break downs, or build ups or do anything like that with out having to scroll thru the song first and set memo points.

my cd player can't compete w/my turntable when it comes to cueing.

i just look at the record, and drop the needle WHERE EVER I WANT. no scrolling/scanning/setting memo points/or messing w/jog wheels. nothing, just pick up the needle and put it where ever you want. try it, you'll love it.

it doesn't get any easier/faster/or more convient than that. -no matter how easy it is to do it on the fancier cd players (which i don't have) or what ever alligator says.

thx trogdor for understanding.

don't get me wrong, it's not like i don't like cd players, or think they are usless or anything. it was just something i pointed out. i still love my cd player, and will continue using it.

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Originally posted by hiram i was reading through another thread in this forum about CDJ's being over priced. ive checked prices for pioneers but never checked any other brand. then i started to reada bout Denon. is any brand better than the other?

i bought a denon dnd4500. it's my first time using/buying a cd player. i trust denon, more than numark, stanton, gemini, and american dj. -you can't beat denon's warranty either. i went w/the dual deck because it gave me everything i needed to get my feet wet to see if i like cd's or not. it saves space, and i can play back to back cd's w/out having to spend the insane amount of money to have 2 stand alone units like the pioneers.

maybe in the future i'll upgrade to a high end denon, or pioneer stand alone. but i'm definately cool for now.

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