Extremely Psychedelic, High-bpm Goa Trance?

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Posted by Cobalt on Dec-24-2005 13:25:

Extremely Psychedelic, High-bpm Goa Trance?

I'm not sure how much help TA will be in this regard, since psy/goa gets little attention here, and since minimal psy is so popular these days, but it's worth a shot.

I'm looking for some extremely psychedelic goa tracks, upwards of 160bpm, and perferably with heavy Indian/Hindustani influences. Complex sitar ragas over manic acid lines, that sort of thing. I have no idea where to start, and have encountered a lot of trouble finding productions of such a style. I'm pretty sure it exists, because I've seen it sometimes referenced by washed-up psy veterans, and I'd imagine full-moon bohemians would follow such mind-blowing stuff like a fluoro caravan.

The only thing I know of that resembles what I'm thinking of is Section X - Galaxian, although it doesn't have as stong of a classical Indian flavor as I'd like.

Help!

Posted by Snooper on Dec-24-2005 13:47:

Not quite sure if it's exactly what you're after, but I'd say check out some older stuff by Pleiadians. Some of the most intense, acid influenced goa out there. Listen to the tune "Maia", should give you a pretty good indication of what their music is like.

Posted by Sand Leaper on Dec-24-2005 13:54:

Dunno if these fulfill your need for manic hindu ranting, but the rest they should apply to:

Chakra - Brain In The Box
Astral Projection - Mahadeva (not the 99 version)
Dimension 5 - Harmonic Convergeance
Pleiadians - Maia <- as already mentioned, Pleiadians made some of the most intense goa around back then
Shakta - Lepton Head (Deedrah Remix)
Green Nuns Of The Revolution - Conflict
MFG - Process Irreversible (Passenger Remix)
The Delta - Travelling At The Speed Of Thought
Doof - Let's Turn On
Doof - Double Dragons (Crystal Insurance Mix)

Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-24-2005 13:58:

I recommend you some of Chi-AD's stuff. Pathfinder should be the perfect tune for you.

Asia 2001's album Amnesia is also really good. Check out the tune Bengali for instance.
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/ava/ava2cd030.html

RA - To Sirius is also a clssic goa trance album.
http://www.discogs.com/release/351515

also check out Dreamweavers album Lord of Illiusion.
http://www.discogs.com/release/70379
it's rich on indian and eastern influences.

Finally a powerful goa trance CD released last year with energetic tunes.
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/sut/sut1cd001.html

Posted by smallSHEEP on Dec-24-2005 14:15:

Try giving some of the stuff in my sig a listen.

Posted by PlasticSoul on Dec-24-2005 14:28:

Sorry be off-topic...but what you (Cobalt) mean for Minimal Psy?

Posted by Cobalt on Dec-24-2005 14:29:

Eep, I realized that 140 is far too slow, More like 160+, sorry.

Thanks for the suggestions thus far.

Posted by Cobalt on Dec-24-2005 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
I recommend you some of Chi-AD's stuff. Pathfinder should be the perfect tune for you.

I've liked some of Chi-AD's productions, particularly Eye Am The I.

Pathfinder is slower than what I'm looking for though, and not really trippy enough.

Posted by Cobalt on Dec-24-2005 14:45:

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
Sorry be off-topic...but what you (Cobalt) mean for Minimal Psy?

I really no authority on names when it comes to psytrance; I'm pretty weak at knowing artists in those subgenres.

Though most psytrance I hear is too slow for my taste, and definitely short of what I'd call plain "psychedelic", minimal psytrance is ususally dark, ploddy stuff like Ticon.

Posted by Cobalt on Dec-24-2005 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper
Not quite sure if it's exactly what you're after, but I'd say check out some older stuff by Pleiadians. Some of the most intense, acid influenced goa out there. Listen to the tune "Maia", should give you a pretty good indication of what their music is like.

Yes, only much faster, darker, and more Indian.

All this makes me wonder if a genre like "hardcore goa" has ever existed. It seems not much of what's being listed is mindfucking enough for what I'm getting at.

I hate feeling ignorant, ugh.

Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-24-2005 15:09:

what about Miranda - Rerecorded?
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/why/why1cd020.html
some really high paced stuff there

and Goa Gil - Karmagedon
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/ava/ava1cd029.html
dark and evil stuff

Posted by gurra on Dec-24-2005 15:36:

I definately recommend To� Do�. 'Replicant' should to the trick.

or maybe:

Battle Of The Future Buddhas - Illusion
Electric Universe - Journey into the Subconscious
Power Source - Granada
Shakta - Lepton Head (Deedrah Remix)
Sienis - Fungi Sapiens
The Nommos - Djembe (Rough Mix)
Transwave - My Dear Medical Assurance

Posted by Ian on Dec-24-2005 20:23:

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
Sorry be off-topic...but what you (Cobalt) mean for Minimal Psy?

'minimal' psy is aka progpsy and good artists include the swedes - vibrasphere, son kite, chakra, ticon, human blue & SBK (i think i have that one right) amongst others. They're mainly layered tracks with the intricacy of many of the good old progressive trance producers (John Graham & slide of cass & slide being good examples) where it isn't just a looped boring beat with nothing going on, and the atmospheric feelings are great.

Full-on psy now ranges from 143-150bpm on the whole, esp the more commercial israeli artists, altho many sound better faster than this.

tbh my recommendations here would be the older goa sounds, as a fair few of the aforementioned tracks have been, for example Chi-Ad and Doof.

Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-24-2005 22:48:

Posted by Eagle` on Dec-25-2005 00:43:

Boris Blenn 2004 album:

Electric Universe - Cosmic Experience

As smallsheep mentioned try Electric Universe - The Prayer, you can blow up a building with that tune

edit: like to add some Ypsilon5 and Filteria stuff, especially

Ypsylon5 - Hologram Infection
Filteria - Snuggling Snale
Wizzy Noise - Aegean Sunrise
The Misted Muppet - Spiritual Visions
Astral Projection - Back from hell

not all off those are fast-paced as hell be there def. dancefloor bombs imo

Posted by Eagle` on Dec-25-2005 00:54:

fuckin' HELL:

Son Kite - Catch

more proggy tune thou, but it's a killer one

Posted by montana on Dec-25-2005 02:42:

Pr�n� & Aminite FX - Black Rain (Blue Planet Corporation Remix)

150bpm goodness

Posted by AlphaStarred on Dec-25-2005 03:01:

Perhaps these will suffice:

Magnetic Pulstar - Pulse (Man Of The Last 3rd Remix)
Aeon - Osho
Brain Accent - Orange Acid
E-Rection - Smoke My Dang Along
Bybass Unit - Spectral Collapse
Universal Sound - Third I
Indoor - The Key
Mittelstandskinder Ohne Strom - Elements
Synchro - Babes On Broomsticks
Art Of Trance - Octopus (M.W.N.N. rmx)

Posted by Snooper on Dec-25-2005 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Yes, only much faster, darker, and more Indian.

All this makes me wonder if a genre like "hardcore goa" has ever existed. It seems not much of what's being listed is mindfucking enough for what I'm getting at.

I hate feeling ignorant, ugh.

Hmmm, perhaps you'll like stuff by UX. At least their music is dark and mindfucking enough. Check out:

Disco Volante - Chameleon (Pixelmorph Mix) (also known as UX - Chameleon or Disco Volante - Chameleon (UX Mix)).

Posted by Sand Leaper on Dec-25-2005 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper
Hmmm, perhaps you'll like stuff by UX. At least their music is dark and mindfucking enough. Check out:

Dusco Volante - Chameleon (Pixelmorph Mix) (also known as UX - Chameleon or Disco Volante - Chameleon (UX Mix)).

Beat me to it. Pretty much all of the album Ultimate Experience is superb.

Posted by dj jasonF on Dec-26-2005 00:22:

infected mushroom - deeply disturbed... a bit slow tho

Posted by PlasticSoul on Dec-26-2005 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
'minimal' psy is aka progpsy and good artists include the swedes - vibrasphere, son kite, chakra, ticon, human blue & SBK (i think i have that one right) amongst others. They're mainly layered tracks with the intricacy of many of the good old progressive trance producers (John Graham & slide of cass & slide being good examples) where it isn't just a looped boring beat with nothing going on, and the atmospheric feelings are great.

Full-on psy now ranges from 143-150bpm on the whole, esp the more commercial israeli artists, altho many sound better faster than this.

tbh my recommendations here would be the older goa sounds, as a fair few of the aforementioned tracks have been, for example Chi-Ad and Doof.

humm...thanks...
dunno in other countries, but here in Brazil the psy scene now is dominated by this minimal psy, they call it "dark prog", cus the olders psytrancers think fullon is dead...
well... I m not more in psytrance nowadays... but I used to like fast stuff with pumping melodies...

Posted by Psy-T on Dec-26-2005 11:39:

Blue Planet Corporation - Overbloody Flood
Dimension 5 - Psychic Influence
Prana - Indigo (Remix)
Hallucinogen - Space Pussy
Innersphere - Infernal Aftershock (Break Beat Mix)
Borris Blenn - Portamento
Prana - Taiyo (Chakra Remix)
Darshan - Psychokinesis

and just throwing in one 'pure' acid trancer in:
Acrid Abeyance - Minimalistic (Commander Tom Remix)

Posted by Laughingfennec on Dec-26-2005 12:36:

You will not find a lot of psy over 160 bpm, and in general they are crap, and not so psychedelic, cheesy if you ask me.
I agree with the recommendation Dimension 5, the album transdimensional : http://www.discogs.com/release/145286
their music is super psychedelic, fast, and full of twisted cyber melodies.