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New above & beyond album

Do you expect it to be something better then their last releases (air for life, alone tonight)?
Do you think that it will be any good?
From reading the interview on t.nu I think there is what to expect to.
But I'm not so sure.

Omer.

I think it will turn out to be a cheesefest of big proportions.
since they already anounced that it will be rich of vocal tunes I don't have high hopes since both Air for Life and Alone Tonight were poor tunes.

the fans may like it but I doubt it will be remembered as a remarkable release.

I want the bird in your sig.

I'm looking forward too hear the stuff on it, but I'm not sure if it's going too be good. I usually hate vocals, but I hope they make some interesting stuff

Since the a&b trio are the most creative producers out there, this album is gonna break some bounderies !!!111

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Originally posted by Eagle` Since the a&b trio are the most creative producers out there, this album is gonna break some bounderies !!!111

They are a trio? I thought there was only two of them

A&B are the best at doing vocal stuf so i think it will be both a success critically and commerically. Alone Tonight has got the cheesiest lyrics ever but tbh most vocal trance does. Wot it does have is an infectious hook line melody and dance floor potential. If you dont like a bit of cheese fair enuf but A&B are nowhere near as bad as say SOS or Dogzilla - Without You was this year.

A&B have always aired towards more commercial cross-over material. Their best tune (remix of madonna) no1 can say wasnt brilliant and they will do the same sort of thing on this album. I did think Air For Life was weak but it blew up in clubs. At the end of the day A&B make great club records. Its not for serious dissecting music material

The 3 of them are well respected by just about everyone in the trance scene. The only people that dont are trance snobs or psyers who cant see past their own genre as it is.

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Originally posted by gizzymcg A&B are the best at doing vocal stuf so i think it will be both a success critically and commerically. Alone Tonight has got the cheesiest lyrics ever but tbh most vocal trance does. Wot it does have is an infectious hook line melody and dance floor potential. If you dont like a bit of cheese fair enuf but A&B are nowhere near as bad as say SOS or Dogzilla - Without You was this year. A&B have always aired towards more commercial cross-over material. Their best tune (remix of madonna) no1 can say wasnt brilliant and they will do the same sort of thing on this album. I did think Air For Life was weak but it blew up in clubs. At the end of the day A&B make great club records. Its not for serious dissecting music material The 3 of them are well respected by just about everyone in the trance scene. The only people that dont are trance snobs or psyers who cant see past their own genre as it is.

I honestly haven't heard anything really good from them since that Madonna remix and Razorfish. Just compare that Madonna remix with their newer stuff. It's like if the evolution has gone backwards.
yes I know that their music is for the broader pop audience who don't care much about the trancy aspect but rather enjoys a catchy melody with some poppy vocals throw in on it, hence their success.

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Originally posted by Eagle` Since the a&b trio are the most creative producers out there, this album is gonna break some bounderies !!!111

Let's be perfectly honest here: A&B haven't altered their sound in the slightest since 2001, and their label Anjunabeats pumps out that exact same sound and nothing else. How the fuck are they "the most creative producers out there" if they've only ever made one sound?

And before idiots come down on me like a ton of shit, I'm not calling A&B's sound crap (although personally I don't like it much, not after five years of it), but even the most ardent A&B fan must admit that they've only done one type of tune in their career.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Let's be perfectly honest here: A&B haven't altered their sound in the slightest since 2001, and their label Anjunabeats pumps out that exact same sound and nothing else. How the fuck are they "the most creative producers out there" if they've only ever made one sound?

Knowing a bit Eagle` , he was just ironic

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Originally posted by PEZ68 Knowing a bit Eagle` , he was just ironic

Well thank God for that. I'm not familiar with the guy.

I noticed the irony ;P

If there's one group I'd rather see handle vocals it's A&B.

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Originally posted by USMC_Greg They are a trio? I thought there was only two of them

paavo (P.O.S) + tony (nitromethane) + jono grant = 3

contrary to polular belief they do not consist of dj above & dj beyond ...sometimes only 1 or 2 of them turn up for gigs though

Individually A&B do make quite diverse and different sounding records, however together they do have a particular style, but then so does PVD, Tiesto, and a lot of other producers. I personally can't wait for this album to come out it's going to be class. And very different from their normal stuff as they say they're not aiming to make big club records (although there will be club remixes) but it'll be interesting what will come from this. Female vocals are one of my favourite things in the world and this album promises plenty of these!

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Originally posted by mrmonkey as they say they're not aiming to make big club records (although there will be club remixes) but it'll be interesting what will come from this.

I have a feeling that will confirm it as a Shivers style crap/cheesefest.

you guys suck,

above & beyond is quality

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Originally posted by Mycron you guys suck, above & beyond is quality

quality boring cheese maybe yes. but quality trance? nope!

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I honestly haven't heard anything really good from them since that Madonna remix and Razorfish. Just compare that Madonna remix with their newer stuff. It's like if the evolution has gone backwards. yes I know that their music is for the broader pop audience who don't care much about the trancy aspect but rather enjoys a catchy melody with some poppy vocals throw in on it, hence their success.

uhm.. that madonna remix was really, really cheap and a cheesefest deluxe, made for the broad pop audience. so i really don't see your point. they have always been very commercial. yet another case of nostalgia getting in the way of real arguments, i reckon.

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Originally posted by n0bben uhm.. that madonna remix was really, really cheap and a cheesefest deluxe, made for the broad pop audience. so i really don't see your point. they have always been very commercial. yet another case of nostalgia getting in the way of real arguments, i reckon.

I never said it wasn't cheesy. A proof of that is that the A&B remix was chosen as the video version which was aired on MTV etc.
Of course you can't remove the vocals etc in a version like that. But still it was far better than the stuff they throw out nowadays. And since A&B themselves admitted that the Madonna remix is their best produciton till date I guess they know they've gone downhills.
the same with their remix of Sunset on Ibiza.

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Originally posted by n0bben uhm.. that madonna remix was really, really cheap and a cheesefest deluxe, made for the broad pop audience. so i really don't see your point. they have always been very commercial. yet another case of nostalgia getting in the way of real arguments, i reckon.

Are you another one of these musical snobs here? The Madonna remix is a masterpeice. Wot because it has lyrics its cheesy? Get a grip. If u cant see past your own style then thats your fault. Just about everyone in the EDM industry recognised that tune as something special

This thread is the first time I've even heard of the damn mix, so it can't be THAT special.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J This thread is the first time I've even heard of the damn mix, so it can't be THAT special.

When did you get into trance? Its quite clear that you dont know your history if you havent heard Madonna - What it Feels Like for a Girl (Above & Beyond Remix)

The remix much like Ferry Corsten's remix of Adagio actually made a poor pop song (in Ferry's case a classical piece of music) a commercial success because of its poularity on the dance floor. Its one of the best vocal uplifitng trance records ever. Just because a tune has an uplfiting melody and isnt "groundbreaking" (or whatever that means in a genre that has a set structure to its music anyway) its automoatically cheesy to those "in the know". Look ive been listening to and been critical of trance records since 1998 and i think i know a thing or two.

You cannot dismiss A&B simply because they access the commercial market. I guaarantee they love what they do and make far more of a living out of it than producers who are making more forward thinking trance (again whatever you like to call that). Imo the only producer who is making tunes with a "newer sound" is Sander Van Doorn and even he has taken a lot of his sound from counterparts like MArco V and Oliver Lieb

I got into trance six years ago, and I'm familiar with "classic" trance records from the very early 1990s. I know my trance history, but I don't know about a remix of a Madonna track that I'd bet my right arm would be just as popular even if A&B hadn't remixed it, simply because anything with "Madonna" on the single-case is a Top 5 hit any day of the week. That's called marketing.

Oh, and I haven't ragged on the damn record. I've never even heard it. However, in all my time at TA, in all my time looking up on the Internet, buying tracks, reading articles and listening to people who've been into trance for 15 years, this is the first time I've ever heard any mention of this track as a classic (hell, if I've heard of it at all, it was a vague name-drop).

So: stop shoving words into my mouth and stop assuming I don't know anything about trance.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'd bet my right arm would be just as popular even if A&B hadn't remixed it, simply because anything with "Madonna" on the single-case is a Top 5 hit any day of the week. That's called marketing.

You miss the point. When the song got relased it was MARKETED on the actual remix not the original song. Everytime the video came on TV it was A&B's remix that was played. Again if thats too commerical for you then so be it. Point is Madonna recognised A&B had made a poor song of hers far better

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