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Iran close to having nuclear bombs??
Ok, Iran having nuclear bombs really does scare the shit out of me...
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Israel warns of Iran's nuclear ambitions www.chinaview.cn 2005-12-28 03:44:42 JERUSALEM, Dec. 27 (Xinhuanet) -- Israeli overseas intelligence service Mossad chief Meir Dagan said on Tuesday that Iran is seeking more than one nuclear bomb and it will attain technological independence within a number of months. Dagan told the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee of the Knesset (parliament) that it's just a matter of time for Iran to make a nuclear bomb, but he refused to predict when Iran will be able to produce such a bomb. "There exists a strategic Iranian decision to reach nuclear independence and the capability to produce bombs," Dagan said in an annual assessment presented to the Knesset panel. "Iran's chances of attaining the necessary technology depends on whether its plans will be thwarted by outside actors or whether it will be able to advance the uranium enrichment process," Dagan stressed. He appreciated the diplomatic efforts aimed at preventing or at least delaying Iran's ability to develop nuclear weapons, saying these efforts have resulted in a two-year delay in Iran's nuclear program. "It is very important for the United Nations Security Council to implement economic sanctions against Iran," Dagan underlined. Speaking after Dagan's assessment, Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee chairman Yuval Steinitz said if Iran's nuclear program continues unchecked, it will certainly have operational nuclear capability within one or two years. He added that if Iran possesses atomic weaponry, the region will become a "black Middle East" that will pose a danger and a threat to the entire world. A nuclear Iran will mean an existential threat to Israel, Steinitz said, calling on the international community to take steps to thwart Iran's nuclear ambitions. Enditem |
Go Iran go!! Go for nuclear weapon fast!!!!! Dont take so much time. Thats the only way you can protect yourself from becoming another Iraq, a victim of useless aggression. Bush has gone mad. Look how Bush left North Korea after they declared they had nuclear bombs.
BTW this also be another propaganda by the US to generate negetive public opinion against Iran.
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| Originally posted by Purple BTW this also be another propaganda by the US to generate negetive public opinion against Iran. |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Yea? Prove it. |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r BTW it's very well known Iran has been after nuclear bombs for quite some time. What rock have you been under? We're talking about a regime that wants to, "Blow Isreal off the map", "Move Isreal to Europe" and "Denies that the Holocaust took place". Knowing this, we're going to let them have bombs?? |
How do you even figure out how to put on your shoes in the morning?
You also forgot Russia you prick.
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| Originally posted by Purple BTW this also be another propaganda by the US to generate negetive public opinion against Iran. |
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| Originally posted by Jake Benson But I hate Iran to begin with. |
Awesome news if it it true.
U.S cant fuck with them anymore.
wow purple you're a complete moron, hardcore trancer too! Ok, in youre first post you say "Go for nuclear weapon fast!!!!" then you say "Yes dont let them have bombs, but their is a way to it". which is it?? and how the hell do you think we should "stop" china and russia? U.S. can't fuck with them anymore?? are you retarded?? France, Germany, and Britain are the ones who tried negotiating with iran and iran basically told everyone to go fuck themselves. its not just the US that doesn't want iran to have nukes.
NYTimes dec 28
"Following the suspension of negotiations, the next natural move for the Europeans and the United States would have been to carry out a longstanding threat to refer Iran to the Security Council for sanctions. But the western countries have hesitated to do that because of a likely veto by Russia and China, both of which have major commercial ties to Iran"
FUCk russia and china
i bet the europeans are going to mess this up just like clinton messed it up with N. Korea, iran will stall and europe wont do shit like always and one day iran will just say we already have nukes and everyone will just say ooops.
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| Originally posted by sponger wow purple you're a complete moron, hardcore trancer too! Ok, in youre first post you say "Go for nuclear weapon fast!!!!" then you say "Yes dont let them have bombs, but their is a way to it". which is it?? and how the hell do you think we should "stop" china and russia? U.S. can't fuck with them anymore?? are you retarded?? France, Germany, and Britain are the ones who tried negotiating with iran and iran basically told everyone to go fuck themselves. its not just the US that doesn't want iran to have nukes. NYTimes dec 28 "Following the suspension of negotiations, the next natural move for the Europeans and the United States would have been to carry out a longstanding threat to refer Iran to the Security Council for sanctions. But the western countries have hesitated to do that because of a likely veto by Russia and China, both of which have major commercial ties to Iran" FUCk russia and china i bet the europeans are going to mess this up just like clinton messed it up with N. Korea, iran will stall and europe wont do shit like always and one day iran will just say we already have nukes and everyone will just say ooops. |
i didnt mean that they have nukes now, what i meant to say is that no one wants them to be able to develop nukes! and i dont recall israel ever saying that they already have them, but thats obviously Iran's intention. and why the hell do you say mr. Bush is fucked?? so is everyone else!! europe also tried to get iran to halt its nuclear program and the negotiations obviously failed!!
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| "Seeing the Iraq election succeed and listening to Ahmadinejad's recent outbursts against Israel, I fear the regime has decided nobody can stop their push to enrich uranium. I fully expect more internal repression from the Iranian regime and continued aggressive outbursts against Israel. The regime may well be preparing to pull out of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and go its own way, regardless of world disfavor or the risk of increased sanctions." |
this might not be relevant to anyone ouside the uk, but then again it might so i'm going to say it:
Remember that dead certainty that Iraq launch a chemical attack on Europe within 40mins? Just a thought.
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| Originally posted by Pheobius Remember that dead certainty that Iraq launch a chemical attack on Europe within 40mins? Just a thought. |
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| Originally posted by Pheobius this might not be relevant to anyone ouside the uk, but then again it might so i'm going to say it: Remember that dead certainty that Iraq launch a chemical attack on Europe within 40mins? Just a thought. |
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| you mean they lied to us? |
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| Bush Says Faulty Iraq Data Makes Case Against Iran Tougher Dec. 19 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush said faulty pre-war intelligence on Iraq's weapons programs is making it tougher for the U.S. to make its case that Iran is trying to develop nuclear arms. ``People will say, if we're trying to make the case on Iran, you know, `Well, the intelligence failed in Iraq; therefore, how can we can trust the intelligence in Iran?''' the president said at a news conference today at the White House. Iran is pressing ahead with plans to enrich uranium for nuclear fuel in the face of opposition from the U.S., Europe and Israel. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad contends his country has a ``legitimate right'' to generate electricity from nuclear power plants, while Bush argues that the Iranians are taking steps to develop nuclear weapons. Talks between the European Union and Iran are scheduled to resume Dec. 21. Bush was asked whether the failure to turn up evidence of biological or chemical weapons in Iraq after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled is hindering the U.S. in dealing with future threats such as Iran or North Korea. ``No question that the intelligence failure on weapons of mass destruction caused all intelligence services to have to step back and re-evaluate the process of gathering and analyzing intelligence,'' Bush said. ``Where it is going to be most difficult to make the case is in the public arena.'' The U.S. is pursuing diplomatic efforts to thwart Iran's nuclear program with the help of European governments, Bush said. The U.S. also may take the matter to the United Nations Security Council. Intelligence and Diplomacy That path, too, requires rebuilding faith in the collection of intelligence gathering, Bush said. ``The credibility of intelligence is necessary for good diplomacy.'' Bush said there is ``universal agreement'' that Iran shouldn't be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. He said he continues to back a proposal from Russian President Vladimir Putin that would allow Iran to build a nuclear power plant while keeping uranium fuel in Russian control. U.S. and European leaders have condemned recent statements by Ahmadinejad, calling for the eradication of Israel and dismissing as a ``myth'' the Nazi Holocaust that killed 6 million Jews during World War II. To contact the reporters on this story: Richard Keil in Washington at [email protected][/email]; Roger Runningen in Washington at [email][email protected] Last Updated: December 19, 2005 13:53 EST |
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| Originally posted by Purple Yes dont let them have bombs, but their is a way to it. Iran is/was always open to UN inspections, whatelse US wants? Strip naked the whole country? Simply putting them in the list of 'Axis of Evils' and invading the whole country will never ever solve the problem. It will only give rise to terrorism and hatred, which is more dangerous. |
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Iran votes to block IAEA inspections TEHRAN, Iran (AP) � Iran's parliament approved a bill Sunday requiring the government to block international inspections of its nuclear facilities if the nation is referred to the Security Council for possible sanctions. The bill was approved by 183 of the 197 lawmakers present at the session, which was broadcast live on state-run radio. The vote came four days before the International Atomic Energy Agency board meets to consider referring Tehran for violating a nuclear arms control treaty. When the bill becomes law, as is expected, it will strengthen the government's hand in resisting international pressure to abandon uranium enrichment, a process that can be used to produce fuel for nuclear reactors or an atomic bomb. The United States accuses Iran of trying to build a nuclear weapon. Iran says its program is for generating electricity. |
no nation should have nuclear weapons. anybody that thinks iran developing nuclear weapons is a good thing is a raging cockhead. how does that help the world?? *shakes head*
if theyre trying to build weapons then i favour taking their facilities out, one way or another. building & trusting intelligence in this context would be awfully difficult though.
the more countries that develop nuclear weapons, the less chance we will have of ever disarming anyone.
ogvh, i think key points in that article are :
"Iran is pressing ahead with plans to enrich uranium for nuclear fuel in the face of opposition from the U.S., Europe and Israel"
and "Where it is going to be most difficult to make the case is in the public arena"
its not saying that there is no case against iran, if thats what you were trying to imply.
anyway, im curious to see if iran accepts Putin's offer, although it doesn't look like it.
Nuclear Iran wouldn't benefit Russia
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Oh really? Then what is this all about? >>Source<< |
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| Originally posted by Purple Its posted on "Posted 11/20/2005 ". ....That is NOW na, after all this heated exchanges ... Dont forget they had UN inspectors in their country for years. If they were 'Axis of Evils' than they would have never allowed anyone right from the begening like Liyba, Sudan etc. Iran always had UN inspectors, and it never had any problem with them... its only after this humiliation that they and any muslim country today has to face, had they decided to retaliate. This vote to block IAEA inspections is more an act of protest, than anything else. |
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| Originally posted by Purple Its posted on "Posted 11/20/2005 ". ....That is NOW na, after all this heated exchanges ... Dont forget they had UN inspectors in their country for years. If they were 'Axis of Evils' than they would have never allowed anyone right from the begening like Liyba, Sudan etc. Iran always had UN inspectors, and it never had any problem with them... its only after this humiliation that they and any muslim country today has to face, had they decided to retaliate. This vote to block IAEA inspections is more an act of protest, than anything else. |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r As true as that may be, how do they figure this is going to help themselves?? It appears to be more a step backwards.. |
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| Originally posted by Purple It gives them leverage in negotiations. First they throw them out, and than when they agree to take them back in, it will look like a concession they made. It will look like a step forward than at that time... |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Since when does throwing out U.N. inspectors count as, "leverage"? |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r The inspectors are there for a reason and they're not barter material; I think that's the point. Iran has no business negotiating with something that's not theirs only to try and hand it back as an offer?! |
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