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Posted by Xtatica on Dec-29-2005 13:47:

Is Trance Dying?

We have been wrestling with this one on another forum, and as you guys are in the 'IN' crowd wanted to know your thoughts as I am hearing more 'house' type records commercially every day and not much trance - is trance leaving us?

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-29-2005 13:51:

People will say yes, others will say no, then many will simply make crap jokes about how often this thread is repeated. End product? You'll still have to make up your own mind.

Posted by _Ocean_Drive_ on Dec-29-2005 13:52:

Before you get flamed by alot of people, I suggest you use the Search function in the top right corner!

There have been lots of threads about this!

Welcome to TA though

Posted by Purple on Dec-29-2005 13:53:

Sushi sadly left us, I am afraid you are next.

Posted by lazy chick on Dec-29-2005 13:55:

Re: Is Trance Dying?

quote:
Originally posted by Xtatica
We have been wrestling with this one on another forum, and as you guys are in the 'IN' crowd wanted to know your thoughts as I am hearing more 'house' type records commercially every day and not much trance - is trance leaving us?

you're a retard

Posted by mentalbarter on Dec-29-2005 13:57:

how can you possibly even think trance is dying when you look at this quality selection of tunes from the past year?

Armin van Buuren - A State Of Trance Episode 228 (12-22-2005)
Tracklisting:
01. Above & Beyond feat Andy Moor - Air For Life
02. Armin Van Buuren - Shivers
03. Armin Van Buuren feat Gabriel & Dresden - Zocalo
04. Markus Schulz feat Departure - Without You Near (Gabriel & Dresden Remix)
05. Airbase - Escape
06. Way Out West - Killa (Orkidea Remix)
07. Gabriel & Dresden feat Molly - Tracking Treasure Down
08. Above & Beyond - Alone Tonight
09. Mike Foyle vs Signalrunners - Love Theme Dusk (Mike's Broken Record Mix)
10. Armin Van Buuren feat Jan Vayne - Serenity
11. Dogzilla - Without You (Dub Mix)
12. Andy Moor - Halcyon
13. Jonas Steur - Castamara
14. Paul Van Dyk feat Wayne Jackson - The Other Side (Deep Dish Other Than This Side Remix)
15. The Police - SOS (Sander Van Doorn Remix)
16. Marco V - False Light
17. Kuffdam & Plant - Summer Dream (Paul Van Dyk Remix)
18. Deep Dish - Say Hello (Club Mix)
19. Mark Otten - So Serene (Menno De Jong's Heading South Dub)
20. Hammer & Bennett - Language (Santiago Nino Dub Tech Mix)

Posted by mentalbarter on Dec-29-2005 13:58:

Re: Re: Is Trance Dying?

quote:
Originally posted by lazy chick
you're a retard

cock off

he's just a n00b

Posted by JakeC on Dec-29-2005 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by mentalbarter
how can you possibly even think trance is dying when you look at this quality selection of tunes from the past year?

Armin van Buuren - A State Of Trance Episode 228 (12-22-2005)
Tracklisting:
01. Above & Beyond feat Andy Moor - Air For Life
02. Armin Van Buuren - Shivers
03. Armin Van Buuren feat Gabriel & Dresden - Zocalo
04. Markus Schulz feat Departure - Without You Near (Gabriel & Dresden Remix)
05. Airbase - Escape
06. Way Out West - Killa (Orkidea Remix)
07. Gabriel & Dresden feat Molly - Tracking Treasure Down
08. Above & Beyond - Alone Tonight
09. Mike Foyle vs Signalrunners - Love Theme Dusk (Mike's Broken Record Mix)
10. Armin Van Buuren feat Jan Vayne - Serenity
11. Dogzilla - Without You (Dub Mix)
12. Andy Moor - Halcyon
13. Jonas Steur - Castamara
14. Paul Van Dyk feat Wayne Jackson - The Other Side (Deep Dish Other Than This Side Remix)
15. The Police - SOS (Sander Van Doorn Remix)
16. Marco V - False Light
17. Kuffdam & Plant - Summer Dream (Paul Van Dyk Remix)
18. Deep Dish - Say Hello (Club Mix)
19. Mark Otten - So Serene (Menno De Jong's Heading South Dub)
20. Hammer & Bennett - Language (Santiago Nino Dub Tech Mix)

I was about to post something along the lines of no its not, then read the above and i just thought....oh dear.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-29-2005 14:01:

Re: Re: Is Trance Dying?

quote:
Originally posted by lazy chick
you're a retard

Oh shut up. That was totally uncalled for, you dick.

Posted by RapidFire on Dec-29-2005 14:04:

in terms of popularity; no. in terms of quality; yes. in the end its mostly subjective but you cant deny the decline in quality when you compare it to the 90's stuff.

Posted by Xtatica on Dec-29-2005 14:05:

Mentalbarter Thanks Dude - didn't realise this is such a hot topic in the past -

Am I used to bullying, well yeah of cause I am - I didnt get to this age in life without people calling me names, does it bother me nah...go ahead...

For all those sticking up for the Noob thanks guys I will use the search in future

Posted by Trance Nutter on Dec-29-2005 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
in terms of popularity; no.

I'd disagree. We have a discussion going on in AuTA somewhat similar to this, and it is obvious that in every city in Australia that trance is becoming less popular amongst the general everyday clubbing crowd and house is growing. There are less trance nights in favour for house nights, clubs are turning promoters away because they know they can get bigger crowds with house nights, and there are less viable trance nights due to reducing crowds.

Is trance dying? Probably not.
Is it becoming less popular? I'd say from my observations/experiences yes.
Is this going to lead to the 'second coming' that so many people seem to hope for (less commerciality, higher production quality etc)? God knows

Posted by JakeC on Dec-29-2005 14:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Xtatica
For all those sticking up for the Noob thanks guys I will use the search in future

But whatever you do dont post in any of the posts you searched for.

its a strange cycle employed by general internet goons.

New member posts > Told to search by joe elitist > New member searches >
New member asks question in thread he searched for > Joe elitist and his band of elitist men call flame him for doing what they asked "New member" to do...

Welcome to the site btw

Posted by Xtatica on Dec-29-2005 14:11:

Thanks for the heads up dude - its a mine field in here

Posted by Ian on Dec-29-2005 14:15:

ok so back in 1997 maybe, there were many good compilations coming out, stuff like BBE & Brainbug was helping us develop a musical liking & by 1999-2000 this peaked, with the popularity, not only from us who liked the music but those who followed trends as ours was now cool.

5 years later, America is experiencing the same boom, dj's can make more & sell out more by playing to these people who aren't fed up with seeing the same names, stale sounds & the likes. The newer watered down pop-style trance suits their ears and they are now having the same big times as we are. 2 out of every 3 regular new posters probably come from north america or unexposed places, see the Middle Easts rise in site suggestions now as another example. The rest of us, have inevitibly moved on in places, even if our roots remain the same (however there are those who just follow trends on whatevers cool & bash what they used to worship)

TA used to spread from word of mouth when the people met each other each week & was the way they could keep in contact, now as the nights die out, and as our generation (those of us moving into the 20s etc) mature (sometimes in tastes, sometimes just not being able to do the same things due to commitments) our perspectives change on life in general.

Posted by mentalbarter on Dec-29-2005 14:17:

some old school "is trance dying" threads:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ht=trance+dying
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ht=trance+dying

Posted by lazy chick on Dec-29-2005 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Xtatica
Mentalbarter Thanks Dude - didn't realise this is such a hot topic in the past -

Am I used to bullying, well yeah of cause I am - I didnt get to this age in life without people calling me names, does it bother me nah...go ahead...

For all those sticking up for the Noob thanks guys I will use the search in future

what made you post on your first few days in a trance forum that trance is dying?

especially since many of the 250 most popular djs are trance

Posted by RapidFire on Dec-29-2005 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
I'd disagree. We have a discussion going on in AuTA somewhat similar to this, and it is obvious that in every city in Australia that trance is becoming less popular amongst the general everyday clubbing crowd and house is growing. There are less trance nights in favour for house nights, clubs are turning promoters away because they know they can get bigger crowds with house nights, and there are less viable trance nights due to reducing crowds.

Is trance dying? Probably not.
Is it becoming less popular? I'd say from my observations/experiences yes.
Is this going to lead to the 'second coming' that so many people seem to hope for (less commerciality, higher production quality etc)? God knows

thats one of way of interpreting its popularity. but tell me how many people you knew that knew of trance at its peak (99) and how many people know of it now?? I can name a hell of alot more people that know of trance today than I could 6 years ago. its become alot more accessible and common now than in its golden years. Dont know about the events first hand but I think its become more commercially successful (which is to blame for the shit tunes I would think).

Posted by mentalbarter on Dec-29-2005 14:23:

Posted by Purple on Dec-29-2005 14:24:

Re: Is Trance Dying?

Posted by Xtatica on Dec-29-2005 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by lazy chick
what made you post on your first few days in a trance forum that trance is dying?

especially since many of the 250 most popular djs are trance

Been here a week now and as you all had your ear to the ground wondered if there was truth in the murmurings....

Probably a daft thing to do on this site but decided to risk it for a biscuit - sorry if I offended anyone?

Posted by lazy chick on Dec-29-2005 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by mentalbarter
umm read his first post

obv i did... its like going into gu saying house is dead.

he doesn't even say his opinion on it...

Posted by Xtatica on Dec-29-2005 14:28:

Re: Re: Is Trance Dying?

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
But dont just shit start threads like that,
give us some reason why you believe its dying?

I think its the air time on commercial radio - album releases - new ministry albums...MTV Dance favouring House and dance wheras they used to favour trance - that type of thing...

Posted by Xtatica on Dec-29-2005 14:32:

quote:
Originally posted by lazy chick
obv i did... its like going into gu saying house is dead.

he doesn't even say his opinion on it...

I love trance - its on my MP3 player - CD player - in my car - I eat and breath it - I am a trance addict through and through honestly - But in my opinion the enthusiasm to the genre has reduced considerably over the last year and seems the demand for it has dropped...

Posted by lazy chick on Dec-29-2005 14:34:

Re: Re: Re: Is Trance Dying?

quote:
Originally posted by Xtatica
I think its the air time on commercial radio - album releases - new ministry albums...MTV Dance favouring House and dance wheras they used to favour trance - that type of thing...

MTV & trance?
Trance is definately being played on radio more now then it has...

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