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Posted by etazbaz on Dec-29-2005 20:57:

ing. CDJ 200 vs. DN-S3500

Guys,

I'm trying to get into DJing. I want to spin mainly trance so no interest in scratching. I also want to spin at my own house parties and entertain my friends. The CDJ200s are going for $350 and the DNS3500s are going for $600. I could go with the Denons (they look hella cool) and not worry about having to upgrade in the future. But if you guys think that the CDJs will do just about everything that I would need, then I will save the extra money and put that down on a decent mixer. What do you guys think?

Thanks


Posted by Basstard on Dec-29-2005 21:22:

CHECK
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YOU ******'S FUCK


Posted by Jeremy H on Dec-29-2005 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
CHECK
THE FUCKING
OTHER POSTS
ON THIS
FUCKING
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YOU ******'S FUCK


Posted by Tenshi on Dec-29-2005 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
CHECK
THE FUCKING
OTHER POSTS
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YOU ******'S FUCK


no need to be that harsh!

he tries to contribute to this page by asking a simple question!
you don't contribute anything!

about the players! i only played on the cdj200 (have one at home)

i think everyone who has the cdj200 on this page loves it, me too!
you can play mp3s with it, it's very accurate (0.02%)

but i think it's the best to try both out, then you can decide if the denons are worth the extra money!


Posted by n3lly on Dec-29-2005 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
CHECK
THE FUCKING
OTHER POSTS
ON THIS
FUCKING
PAGE
YOU ******'S FUCK


In fairness i'd expect that kind of a post from an american (no offense lads.. lol there's just loads of you on here, obviously)

Then again you are from up north hehe jk mate.. I find a picture/link of the search button a lot less helpful and takes no time at all!

If i had the money for a DNS3500, i'd be considering other cd decks. But i'm not 100% sure..

Seems like you're comparing two very different decks. Price-wise that is..

I know, from reading on here that the cdj200 holds it's own. However the DNS3500 is supposidly built like a tank, (again as is the cdj200 lol)

It's a tough one, but i don't know all the small features of the 3500 to compare it to everything i've read about the cdj200..

If it were me, i'd probably go with the DNS3500, just to be different as it's suppose to be a lovely deck.

nelly


Posted by CosmoKid on Dec-29-2005 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
In fairness i'd expect that kind of a post from an american (no offense lads.. lol there's just loads of you on here, obviously)

Then again you are from up north hehe jk mate.. I find a picture/link of the search button a lot less helpful and takes no time at all!

If i had the money for a DNS3500, i'd be considering other cd decks. But i'm not 100% sure..

Seems like you're comparing two very different decks. Price-wise that is..

I know, from reading on here that the cdj200 holds it's own. However the DNS3500 is supposidly built like a tank, (again as is the cdj200 lol)

It's a tough one, but i don't know all the small features of the 3500 to compare it to everything i've read about the cdj200..

If it were me, i'd probably go with the DNS3500, just to be different as it's suppose to be a lovely deck.

nelly




ew. how do americans not take ofense to that? especially when one of the rudest posts i have ever read is from one of your own.


Posted by Basstard on Dec-29-2005 22:32:

hahha deal with it cosmo - he insulted me for being from the north but i took it in jest

as for my raving flame above i posted it literally 30 seconds after i dropped my cookie on the floor

its bad enuff that the guy didnt use the search enginge but for fuk's sake guys i saw at least 4 threads on the first page with "CDJ" in it - 2 of those were specifically about the CDJ200. theres also a rather large sticky talking about the benefits of CD decks.


Posted by Rebel Brown on Dec-29-2005 22:36:

There is a very big difference in the price of these 2 decks, so I'd imagine that there would be a difference in the amount of features and such. Personally I'd go with the 200s and put the extra cash towards a better mixer or something else such as decent headphones.

Click me to see a video demo of the Denon.


Posted by etazbaz on Dec-29-2005 23:19:

WTF

sorry to hear u dropped your cookie. fyi- i had already conducted a search and read all of the posts on the CDJ200 before I started this thread. However, I haven't seen these two players compared side by side because of the price difference. My biggest fear is to out-grow a budget player and have to go and get the expensive one anyway. Like I said I don't know much about mixing and if you guys think that the CDJ will last a long time i.e. won't need to upgrade within a couple of years than that's what I will get. Frankly I can't see paying what they are asking for the CDJ1000MK2.


Posted by rapfiend03 on Dec-29-2005 23:56:

theres always the CDJ-800 which is roughly the same price as the denon....


Posted by Omega_Blue on Dec-30-2005 10:37:

quote:
Originally posted by n3lly
In fairness i'd expect that kind of a post from an american (no offense lads.. lol there's just loads of you on here, obviously)

Then again you are from up north hehe jk mate.. I find a picture/link of the search button a lot less helpful and takes no time at all!

If i had the money for a DNS3500, i'd be considering other cd decks. But i'm not 100% sure..

Seems like you're comparing two very different decks. Price-wise that is..

I know, from reading on here that the cdj200 holds it's own. However the DNS3500 is supposidly built like a tank, (again as is the cdj200 lol)

It's a tough one, but i don't know all the small features of the 3500 to compare it to everything i've read about the cdj200..

If it were me, i'd probably go with the DNS3500, just to be different as it's suppose to be a lovely deck.

nelly


why is it that people from different societies have to hate on americans? especially on TA? the guy's a moron, but not because he's american. let's try and stay away from the stereotypes, please.

anyways,

if you got enough for 600 bucks per deck, i would spend the money on two cdj-200's and get an efx unit instead. how i understand it, the dns-3500 has a little less accurate pitch (.05) as opposed to the cdj-200 (.02) but the denon has built in effects and a gimmicky-spinning platter. the platter and the effects are unneccessary, and you can find a better effects unit to buy on the side.

it sounds like you're new to djing, and i guess if you're looking for something that will look cool and impress your friends, get the dns-3500.. for the spinny platter and the effects knobs and such. i guess.

definitely if you've never tried djing before, don't buy anything. try traktor first. why drop $1200 on the denons, and then at least $150 on a mixer and all that, if you may or may not enjoy it


or better yet, if you want to spend even less money, get a pair of denon dns-1000's. they have the same built-in effects, no spinning platter, and a little less accurate pitch (.1) which is, contrary to popular belief on the forums, definitely manageable. i got mine for a little less than $500 for both of them.


Posted by richg101 on Dec-30-2005 11:26:

just buy a pair of cdj200's and be done with it. theyre half the price and do everything you ll ever need. scratching is a stupid gimmick and only works with hip hop mixing. i have never ever heared a decent trance dj that scratches and i never want to.


Posted by skip on Dec-30-2005 12:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
why is it that people from different societies have to hate on americans? especially on TA? the guy's a moron, but not because he's american. let's try and stay away from the stereotypes, please.

anyways,

if you got enough for 600 bucks per deck, i would spend the money on two cdj-200's and get an efx unit instead. how i understand it, the dns-3500 has a little less accurate pitch (.05) as opposed to the cdj-200 (.02) but the denon has built in effects and a gimmicky-spinning platter. the platter and the effects are unneccessary, and you can find a better effects unit to buy on the side.

it sounds like you're new to djing, and i guess if you're looking for something that will look cool and impress your friends, get the dns-3500.. for the spinny platter and the effects knobs and such. i guess.

definitely if you've never tried djing before, don't buy anything. try traktor first. why drop $1200 on the denons, and then at least $150 on a mixer and all that, if you may or may not enjoy it


or better yet, if you want to spend even less money, get a pair of denon dns-1000's. they have the same built-in effects, no spinning platter, and a little less accurate pitch (.1) which is, contrary to popular belief on the forums, definitely manageable. i got mine for a little less than $500 for both of them.


dn-s3500 has 0,02% resolution aswell


Posted by n3lly on Dec-30-2005 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid
ew. how do americans not take ofense to that? especially when one of the rudest posts i have ever read is from one of your own.


I meant nothing personal about my post. And in fairness, the proportion of American's to any other country on this forum is quite large. So obviously it's gonna be more difficult to have all of you on your best behaviour.

Point being, i had a go at a (what i would call) fellow country man.. As i wasn't too happy with his ranting and raving, but.. he was able to take it on the chin.

Anywho apologies as i was just surprised by Basstard..

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue why is it that people from different societies have to hate on americans? especially on TA?


Go Figure.. Again i'm not trying to be harsh, you guys just have a stereotype attached which i try to usually steer clear of.

So.. back on Topic.

If it were my choice, starting off. Not really knowing 100% if i want to do this Dj'ing thing for a good few years. I'd go with the cdj200's.

They're cheaper, they get the job done. You have your 3 effects there for a little fun. They're solid as a rock. And seeing as they're cheap enough it shouldn't be too difficult to upgrade without losing a lot of money. (resale value isn't too bad IIRC)

IMO, go with the cdj200's, if you'd like something a little more bling Go with the DNS3500.

I personally, am going to get a set of CDJ800's. As that's all i'll need at my home. CDJ1000's are as a lot have pointed out, just too expensive.

Oh and if i don't talk to any of you before the 1st..
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

nelly


Posted by etazbaz on Dec-30-2005 18:57:

thanks all. CDJ200s it is. i went to guitar center and played with all the decks and i like how the 200 doesnt have a spinning platter. i had no idea how to use them. the guy that worked there didnt know how to use them either. i will match it with a djm300 and be done. i think this kit will be easy to sell in the future if and when the upgrade path presents itself.


Posted by Damerchi on Jan-03-2006 16:02:

forget those two for starting. Although The CDJ-200 is a nice deck, i don't think it has shit on the American Audio CDI-500. And besides these two decks are in the same ballpark for price. Just check out this American Audio deck before you make any final decisions.


Posted by Prism on Jan-13-2006 17:17:

Denon just released a software plugin which you use to upgrade the DN-S3500 with the follwing improvements/update:

-Resolved an infrequent loop back to Cue issue also causing the time display to freeze
-Resolved going into PLAY mode from heavy Cue Stutter operation
-Resolved time display issue during simultaneous scratch and pitch slider operation
-Added the ability to turn on/off the Effects while scratching
-Added the ability to use Brake/Dump/Rvs effects while recording a sample
-Added the ability to automatically copy the disc pitch and key information during disc sampling or Hot Copy
-Current version numbers: SYS 095 DSP 0A26


Posted by Scolomon on Jan-17-2006 23:18:

i have the cdj 200's
i like them because cdj 1000's seem to be standard in clubs
might as well learn on somethin you would play on in a club


Posted by Wisnia on Mar-16-2006 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
i have the cdj 200's
i like them because cdj 1000's seem to be standard in clubs
might as well learn on somethin you would play on in a club



Cdj 1000s and cdj 200 are two totally different decks. The platter the feel, everything is different. Its the same as playing on a denom and then on a pioneer. I dont understand why u made that comparison.


Posted by Events@Spec on Mar-16-2006 02:55:

The Denons i'd go for. There's scratching, more efx, and the CDJ 200 is a cheap plastic piece of garbage. The platter is plastic

The denons are top quality and built like a tank. Also .02.


Posted by serban on Mar-16-2006 04:21:

i have the denon dns3500 and i never touched a cd player before and within two days i was spinnin and mixin just as good as with my technics.... so id go for the dns3500... yes it is more expensive but its amazing... i love it... the pitch resolution is .02 for 4% and .05 for 10% but its so easy to pitch bend with it that it really doesnt matter... very easy to mix and very easy to correct... hope it helps


Posted by Rebel Brown on Mar-16-2006 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Wisnia
I dont understand why u made that comparison.


I don't understand why you brought this thread back.


Posted by cryo on Mar-16-2006 17:53:

damn... and it all started from a dropped cookie... people should be more careful with handling those tasty treats


Posted by Basstard on Mar-16-2006 17:54:

i still cry at night


Posted by cryo on Mar-16-2006 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
i still cry at night


we need a new box of cookies... STAT



oh and to contribute to this thread. i dont know much about denons but im all for pioneer because their CDJs are in most if not all clubs. so try to save for the 800 because it's the closest to the 1000 and wont break your piggy bank



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