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Posted by Xiu on Dec-30-2005 22:58:

Our latest tune, care to listen?

Well we're currently making our second album and I thought I'd give you guys and ladies a taste. The tune in question is called LoneStar it samples the legendary game by Hideo Kojima "Snatcher" and memorable movies including Ninja Scroll. Well here it is ---> http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=...EL3PR6M1X94OAU6

Let us know what you think eh?


Posted by Xiu on Dec-31-2005 19:01:

bump


Posted by Kid_presentable on Jan-01-2006 03:05:

haha some of those samples are funny.

maybe youve put to many samples in though?


Posted by Xiu on Jan-01-2006 23:04:

Thx man glad you thought so! Yeah maybe I over did it! clumsy me!


Posted by JakeC on Jan-04-2006 00:34:

Okay, heres my review:

0:00 - 0:20
The padded intro does not go with the track at all, I firmly believe it should be dropped.

0:20 - 0:55
Drop those stabs. The kick sounds weak. Be creative youve used a loop for the percussion. theres nothing else.

0:55 - 1:58
another loop which is badly looped. The loops cut in half way through bars, a beat early etc. The vocal samples are over used and that techno loop that cuts in after the geeza says breakdown ruins the flow. The bassline is cool though.

1:59 - 3:26
No flow, no form, no shape. Its just a random loop a thon. the synth part goes in and out of time. the crash loop doesnt fit.

3:26 - 3:35
Sorry but this uneeded section ruins the flow of this already flow lacking piece. The timpani roll made me cringe.

3:36 - 5:10
Same as the other sections. A big looped mess. You have ovredone it with the vocal samples.

Overall:
This tune is poor. No arrangement, flow, groove or anything. I dont know how long you have been doing this, if you are new to making your own music i suggest going here: http://www.computermusic.co.uk

Would you mind returning the favour and giving my latest track a review? it would be greatly appreciated as i also struggle to get many reviews even though i review others

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=314255


Posted by Semirk on Jan-04-2006 00:53:

Right, some honest feedback for you...

Is this made as a comedy track? Because its hilarious (for the wrong reasons). You need to learn what structure is with music, this I'm afraid has none whatsoever. The loops sound very tacky, at least make them sound as if theyre your own. The vocal sampling is beyond extreme and they all sound as though theyve come off a playstation game. You claimed in another thread other peoples tracks to be crap or whatever, well words escape me for this. I have not heard anything in this league in all the tracks I have reviewed here.

The whole track has somewhat of a chav vibe to it also, not really the best thing to achieve musically.


Posted by Xiu on Jan-04-2006 01:09:

@DJ Balti I would be hurt but I know this tune is good others not on here have said so, so I guess it's just your musical opinion and taste choice as oppose to bad music. And as for this being really and worse than others I really don't see how. I've seen other reviews by you giving really really bad tunes the thumbs up so ain't bothered! And I suspect your only having a pop coz I insulted you in the other thread so no harm done. One more thing a very well known DJ who has produced tunes for Ministry Of Sound said he liked most of our stuff so that goes to prove it's a question of taste! One more thing you mentioned something about loops, all the sounds you hear in LoneStar except for the voice samples are made by us no loops, geez what is it with you people. You claim I use music 2000 then ejay and now we use loops and you wondetr why you get a snappy response?!

@JakeC thanks for the feedback I'm sorry you didn't like it much! I'm not to bothered lots of other people liked it, so I guess I had to have people saying they didn't like it too. Gotta take the good with the bad! I will indeed review your track.


Posted by Semirk on Jan-04-2006 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Xiu
@DJ Balti I would be hurt but I know this tune is good others not on here have said so, so I guess it's just your musical opinion and taste choice as oppose to bad music. And as for this being really and worse than others I really don't see how. I've seen other reviews by you giving really really bad tunes the thumbs up so ain't bothered! And I suspect your only having a pop coz I insulted you in the other thread so no harm done. One more thing a very well known DJ who has produced tunes for Ministry Of Sound said he liked most of our stuff so that goes to prove it's a question of taste! One more thing you mentioned something about loops, all the sounds you hear in LoneStar except for the voice samples are made by us no loops, geez what is it with you people. You claim I use music 2000 then ejay and now we use loops and you wondetr why you get a snappy response?!


Fine, be ignorant then.

This has nothing to do with the other thread so forget that idea. Ministry Of Sound, hmm taste indeed.


Posted by Xiu on Jan-04-2006 01:18:

I wasn't haven't a pop at you all I was saying it was your opinion that it was bad! I would agree if everyone said it was aweful but the only people to think it's bad are on this forum. All my friends who gave my honest feedback said they liked it. One that pissed my off was you saying that I'm using loops when I worked hard to make my own!


Posted by Semirk on Jan-04-2006 01:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Xiu
I wasn't haven't a pop at you all I was saying it was your opinion that it was bad! I would agree if everyone said it was aweful but the only people to think it's bad are on this forum. All my friends who gave my honest feedback said they liked it. One that pissed my off was you saying that I'm using loops when I worked hard to make my own!


I give up with you, theres no hope.


Posted by Xiu on Jan-04-2006 01:24:

I was trying to reason with you and you claim that I'm immature! I'm just about to listen to one of your tunes lets see if it is really better than mine, I'll be honest, no shit!


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-04-2006 04:37:

Rewfles!


Posted by Jay M on Jan-04-2006 10:37:



quote:
I'm just about to listen to one of your tunes lets see if it is really better than mine, I'll be honest, no shit!


You really really REALLY don't get it do you?! This place is no competition, it's a music community.

Now as you become better in making music, you'll understand that friends are always talking to your favour about your music. They will always say it's great. No shit. That's why we al come to this community to get (semi-)professional constructive feedback on our tracks. Expect some teardowns from honest people.

I want to be honest with you, and I will. But your fucked up attitude here might amplify, to me, the negative aspects I will find in the track. Now let me tell you that this could be easily made in fasttracker with loop samples. It sounds like it. Whether you made the loops your own or not, they dont sound all to good. The worst things actually are the overload of movie samples (come on you're no teenager anymore) and the structure. Why all those different kicks? Why the dull kicks? Why the tempo change in the track? Why is there no buildup, climax, or structure at all? Why the crash every 2 kicks? Why the house stabs in the beginning?

quote:
IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO XIU
This is not the nineties!


Who is your friend you're cooperating with, at least HE must have some sense of music or..?

To be honest and to talk in your language, I prefer the Balti minimal stuff, it's far more musical than the samplepasting you did.


Posted by hardbeats100 on Jan-04-2006 11:32:

dude?

this truly dose sound like uve opend up sound forge, and cut and pasted loads of stupid samples and loops, did you spend any more than 15 minutes on this, i think you put this on to get a responce, and id like to think that you would never realy think that this is worthy of being released, i dont want to sound harsh, becouse it is funny, and i like that, but realy, are you for real?


Posted by Xiu on Jan-04-2006 16:13:

I really don't know where you guys get off, that tune is better than I've heard you people release. It's so blatantly obvious that you guys are a little gay community who scratch each others backs and when someone with real talent comes in with a decent tune you're all way too jealous. I pity you all! And you people are deaf as wwll as dumb, I've told you countless times that we make all of our own beats, basses and synths etc! *Shrugs*


Posted by Luke Terry on Jan-04-2006 16:17:



sort yourself out Xiu or you will be banned.

any more abuse like this and your account will happily be terminated

*banned


Posted by richg101 on Jan-04-2006 18:45:

with all this rubbish the thread has finally got my attention and ill have a listen...

d/ling....

ok. firstlly i did like how the track started. but it sounded like a atmospheric sample from a cd of atmospheric samples.

then the beat kicks in and i definately think loops im sorry but it just doesnt work. im not having a pop. i think you need to buy a new sample cd(techno drums based) and at least a midi controller keyboard. then control any soft synths you have on your programs.

at the moment it sounds far too unpro sample based and needs more originality in sample choice.

this is my honest opinion but if i were you i would open a new account under a different name here and start from scratch. then people wont be so harsh and you will get constructive feedback when you reply to others work. just a thought.

dont take things so personally xiu. learn to take things with a pinch of salt instead of jumping on anything that moves in an attempt to win an argument.


Posted by Takkra on Jan-04-2006 21:25:

quote:
See in the Theathers June 2006:

LORD OF BASS -2-


Posted by funkysouls on Jan-05-2006 13:44:

i thought mine was the worst!
there is no ambiance in ur track and its full of breakdowns..!!
the pads dont go with the rest of the track and it doesnt give me a feel
of something that might happen next!


Posted by Syrez on Jan-05-2006 22:51:

I expected this tune to be bad because of all the negative respone and I was sure surprised! Hey Xiu don't pay any atenttion to those who think this is aweful because it is truely an excellent tune. I hope you don't mind but I've now added it to my permenant playlist!
Those guntalk samples are from Snatcher if I'm not mistaken. Man I loved that game, it's 12 years old now, where does the time go. BTW Xiu I downloaded your album and the quality of tunes is staggering, you guys should have a record deal! Keep up the good work!


Posted by kopi_luwak on Jan-06-2006 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Xiu
I insulted you in the other thread so no harm done

Bro, you are welcome to give ur opinion here always but never to insult others work, some people are not smart enought to understand the diference bewteen an opinion and an insult .
Kopi =o.
quote:
Originally posted by Xiu
I really don't know where you guys get off, that tune is better than I've heard you people release. It's so blatantly obvious that you guys are a little gay community who scratch each others backs and when someone with real talent comes in with a decent tune you're all way too jealous. I pity you all! And you people are deaf as wwll as dumb, I've told you countless times that we make all of our own beats, basses and synths etc! *Shrugs*

Make you a favour dude, go to wallmart, buy 2 liters of poison for rats, and drink it, drink it several times .
Now ur track, lol, my bad, I made a mistake calling it a track, I will not comment on this LOL but something is for shoe, or ur friends are really kind with u with their feedback or they are so bad as u buddie ....
Kopi =o.



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