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stereo group in fl6

Hi,



Is it possible i can link my kick and bass together so i can compress them together in a group...for example.



I have my kick assigned to fx 1 and i have equed and compressed it but i then want to link it to another channel, so when i have my bass assigned to fx 2 i want to link that to same channel as my kick.



Like so... KICK - FX1 - STEREO GROUP

BASS - FX2 - STEREO GROUP



is this possible?


p.s im using FLSTUDIO 6

When you click on FX Channel 2 (your bass) at the bottem it says OUT. This tells the host where to route that channel. By default they all route to the master channel, and the master to the sound card.

Anyways, simply route FX2 to pass through FX1. What i usually do though is route both to a third channel, because I dont want the bass to have the same EQ and compression as the kick. EQ and compress both seperately, then route them out to a third channel to compress them together. Dont get too crazy with the compression or it will get really tough to get the sound you want. Remember to eq out all the mud on your bassline around 150Hz to 300.

Please... Read the god damn manual

Down the bottom of the mixer where it says "out", make it output to another fx channel. Use the same channel for both the kick and the bass.

IE.

Kick->FX1->FX3
Bass->FX2->FX3

So fx3 has all your compressors and whatnot in them.

Theres no need for anyone else to reply to this thread or start flaming, let it die plz.

For FL6, it's different. You select the channel with your bass then right click near the bottom of the mixer on the track you want to send the audio to and choose 'route to this track only'. Do the same for your bass. To un-route channels, simply route them back to the master channel.

lol, i havent used fl6 yet my bad

Is it worth upgrading? Some guy told me its crap and buggy

Why compress them together?

Why compress them seperately?

quote:

Originally posted by echosystm Why compress them seperately?

Who asked you?

Hey. Routing in FLS6 is very easy to understand with some graphics here.


-Here, each of the channels, Kick, Bass and Kick+Bass are all routed into the master channel by default.


-Note these icons along the bottom. These are for routing. Go to first the kick channel and click once on on the icon in the master channel. Next go to the bass channel. Notice how the master icon for it is lit. Click that once as well so that both the kick and the bass channels are no longer routed to the master channel. Also note this means that neither channel will output anywhere and so you wont hear any sound out of these two channels for the time being.


-Next, click on the kick channel and then click on the icon beneath the kick+bass channel. You have now routed the kick channel into a new channel. Repeat this step for the bass channel.


-This last picture just shows how the final routing is set up. The kick and the bass channels dump out into the kick+bass channel and then the kick+bass channel dumps out into the master channel.

FLS6 allows for some very nice fairly advanced routing possibilities. One such instance could be that you want to have a single sound being processed 5 different ways. The new routing system also makes it so every single FX channel has the possibility to be a send. Have fun .

Cheers,
Zac

Thanks Guys for your posts

And darksword your the best mate thanks, FL6 is only buggy if you haven't paid for it, i haven't had no problems with my brought version, and i think he was saying there are minor bugs but there is only 2 left to sort out then there will be an update.

By the compressing together bit ive heard that the bass and kick sit tighter once they are compressed together kind of acts like a glue. I just wanted to give it a try.

Thanks again

quote:

Originally posted by retiro Who asked you?

As far as I am aware there is little point in compressing kick or bass by themselves. I mean, the whole idea is to make the groove tighter, how will that make any difference on a single instrument? Compressing a kick and bass together will reduce the dynamic of the part of thet rack that drives the groove, making it mash together nicely?

I could be completely wrong, in which case I have been doing everything wrong and listening to the wrong people.

I'm so confused right now

quote:

Originally posted by echosystm As far as I am aware there is little point in compressing kick or bass by themselves. I mean, the whole idea is to make the groove tighter, how will that make any difference on a single instrument? Compressing a kick and bass together will reduce the dynamic of the part of thet rack that drives the groove, making it mash together nicely? I could be completely wrong, in which case I have been doing everything wrong and listening to the wrong people. I'm so confused right now

Nah, you've caught it all wrong! Why not compress them in two different channels using the same compressor preset - another way of getting round it!

BTW, I never compress the kick and bass together - always seperately!

How you compress your mix is all based on your style and the type of sound you're going for. You can choose to either compress them together and thus making the kick and bass sound "tighter" or you can chose not to and it'll still sound fine. It's all based on how you mess around with your effects and what not.

quote:

Originally posted by echosystm As far as I am aware there is little point in compressing kick or bass by themselves. I mean, the whole idea is to make the groove tighter, how will that make any difference on a single instrument?

A whole lot more than you realize.

Compressing the kick adds harshness and (sometimes) tail to it. Compressing the bass brings it more up-front. Compressing them together is done to prevent clipping.

Remember, compression only reduces the dynamic range. If you compress the kick and bass together, but not separately, and the bass has a large dynamic range or just isn't quite at the right volume, it's going to sound quite messy when they're compressed together and it's also very easy to get the annoying "pumping" effect (which is even worse than side-chained compression).

Simply because a compressor doesn't make any noticeable difference on the sound of a "single instrument" does not mean it's not doing anything. Compression is supposed to sound transparent. More than anything else it's a way of increasing the apparent volume while preserving headroom in the mix, and since the kick and bass are not only the loudest elements of a mix together, but also the loudest elements individually, it's often very important to compress them both.

what if i want to divine i bass sample to 3 different channels..

1. <200hz
2. mid
3. mid-24k

becouse i want to put different effects to middle and high freqs..
and then all those channels to 4 channel wheres compressor..

but when i create new synth ..fl6 will give 1 of those bass channels to new synth!!

how can i avoid that?

other than move left move right?

Do you have it set to auto assign mixer tracks? (can't remember if it can even do this) Even so, then it should only assign new channels to an empty mixer track. Don't know what the issue is.

If I wanted to do what you want to do, I'd make three bass channels, send each to a mixer track, cut the frequencies I don't want on each and apply the fx accordingly.

quote:

Originally posted by echosystm lol, i havent used fl6 yet my bad Is it worth upgrading? Some guy told me its crap and buggy

Read the god damn manual...

Oh wait, nevermind.



In FL6 you can route each individual Mixer Insert FX channel through to however many other FX channels you want, including master if you like. Good stuff.

You could do it in FL5 too. and FL4...

And to the guy who's thinking of upgrading - the upgrade is free if you already own FL Studio (as long as you didn't buy the boxed version you get lifetime updates)

thnx 4 teh automated mixer channrls!!
that helped..

1 other question?

how u can use fl's sampler like in reason..
i mean when i press key it'll play WHOLE sample not just that long i press the button..

is there some frigger i must press?
or do i have to buy descent sampler

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