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Posted by spdandpwr on Jan-03-2006 02:22:

Which denon cd player would you get? (And yes i did a search)

I tried searching but i found nothing related. In any event i was looking at the prices for the denon dn s3500 and s5000 and saw that they are, as of this writing, within the same price. I was just wondering which one would you guys pick. Are there any problems with either? also do the extra features on the s5000 make it even worth it? I went to guitar center and don't remember seeing the s5000 so i need some opinions.


Posted by Prism on Jan-03-2006 03:08:

Someone asked the same question @ www.denondjforums.com so one of the guys from Denon said

quote:
"DENON"Either unit will fit your needs.
Ask yourself, will you be using these features in the future: Alpha Track, 4-loops, A-B Splice, 2 Samplers, Mirror Mix, Hot Disc?

If Yes, then Get the S5000


I'd go for the dns3500, this CD player is new to the industry came out only a few months ago so far I've read enough good reviews to consider buying it myself so I am saving up for one now. It's perfect for scratching (direct drive motor) long mixing 0.02 pitch resolution However eventhough it supports MP3 discs it does play mp3 files but the features like stutter and effects do not work with VBR files, people are experiencing some problems with things like the CUE point moves, some mentioned that the track would jump to the beginning during playback, those are serious issues so guys from Denon are aware of them and are developing a software update. Let me know what you decide to buy.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jan-03-2006 05:22:

i'd get the 3500 for sure, just for the .02 pitch


Posted by SgtFoo on Jan-03-2006 06:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
i'd get the 3500 for sure, just for the .02 pitch


I'd do the same thing, plus I'd also rather the DNS3500 because it can switch to the same cueing method as the Pioneer CDJs, so it's familiar in nightclubs.
If you want more solid reference for which one to grab, IDJ magazine just did a review of the 3500. check thier website or grab the mag and read the review.

Lately I'm supporting Denon gear because they seem to understand a DJ's needs. I'm currently shopping for the DNX1500 mixer, which for the price is an excellent deal, since I really can't justify myself needing to buy the beloved A&H XOne92 at $2500 CDN +tax. Once I've got the mixer, I'm quite sure I'll grab the DNHP1000 headphones too.


Posted by knoxy5000 on Jan-09-2006 12:27:

If you go to http://www.decks.co.uk/products/cdplayers/denon/dns3500

Theres a video review of the denon cd player at the bottom, looks pretty damn sweet


Posted by sirhiss on Jan-09-2006 15:01:

The dns 5000 also has .02 pitch at 4% with a firmware upgrade.
Some are reporting pretty serious issues with the 3500, you might want to at least wait for a firmware upgrade.


Posted by Laszlo on Jan-09-2006 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by sirhiss
The dns 5000 also has .02 pitch at 4% with a firmware upgrade.
Some are reporting pretty serious issues with the 3500, you might want to at least wait for a firmware upgrade.


what issues, for instance?


Posted by sirhiss on Jan-09-2006 16:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Laszlo
what issues, for instance?


There is one bug where the player will jump back to the cue point after about 30 seconds of playback.
Someone also reported the players going silent for a few seconds in the middle of a song.

http://www.denondjforums.com/index....viewtopic&t=514

http://www.denondjforums.com/index....iewtopic&t=1205


Posted by blacknoizybox on Jan-09-2006 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by sirhiss
There is one bug where the player will jump back to the cue point after about 30 seconds of playback.
Someone also reported the players going silent for a few seconds in the middle of a song.

http://www.denondjforums.com/index....viewtopic&t=514

http://www.denondjforums.com/index....iewtopic&t=1205


ive experienced that problem to....press play....it playes for about 10-20 sec and than SLAM its on the CUE mark again.....wtf?!? id go for the good old CDJ-1000 ^)


Posted by Laszlo on Jan-09-2006 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by blacknoizybox id go for the good old CDJ-1000 ^)


Definitely me too


Posted by Zild on Jan-09-2006 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Laszlo
Definitely me too


I'd even go with the CDJ800.


Posted by sirhiss on Jan-09-2006 17:38:

Why would you do that?

If you're not willing to wait for new firmware then id go dns-5000.
Scratch platter is not as good as dns3500 but better than the cdj1000's, it has loads more features and it's cheaper.
Especially if you can only afford one, as you can actually mix 2 songs on the same cd using only one player.


Posted by sot on Jan-09-2006 18:04:

hmm i played on the dns3500 last friday at a club and HATED it..man that cd player is terrible..i couldnt mix for shit on it. im used to the cdj 1000, nice clean cd player..this cd player had way too many buttons on it and was just a cluster fuck..also the pitch was really buggy and everytime i tapped the jogwheeel the whole track would go off beat like it felt like a really bad belt driven turntable...definitely dont recomend this player, go for a cdj 1000 for sure..much easier to adapt to and just a overall better cd player for your money.


Posted by sirhiss on Jan-09-2006 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by sot
hmm i played on the dns3500 last friday at a club and HATED it..man that cd player is terrible..i couldnt mix for shit on it. im used to the cdj 1000, nice clean cd player..this cd player had way too many buttons on it and was just a cluster fuck..

I dont want to start a flamewar here but maybe you should get to know the player before passing such harsh judgement. The first time you used this player was in a club enviroment? no wonder you encountered some hickups.
quote:
also the pitch was really buggy and everytime i tapped the jogwheeel the whole track would go off beat like it felt like a really bad belt driven turntable...definitely dont recomend this player, go for a cdj 1000 for sure..much easier to adapt to and just a overall better cd player for your money.


This is the first time I've heard anyone claim the pitch is "buggy". Of course bending using the scratch platter is going to be different from a cdj1000. I'd probably have similar problems using a cdj1000.

I'm sorry but you not being able to use it properly doenst make it a bad player. I have tried it and i love it. I'm getting one in spite of the bugs as i am confident they will be dealt with soon.


Posted by trondman on Jan-10-2006 00:53:

First time I used a pioplayer i thougt it sucked, the mixes sounded terrible and i hated it at that time. But that�s just because i wasen�t used to play on them. Give the denon a few tries (as i did with the pioplayers) and you probobly like them better.


Posted by Laszlo on Jan-10-2006 00:55:

It got me a while too until I felt comfortable with the 800 and 1000's after been using the 500's at home for over three years...but I wouldn't give a pair of CDJ1000's up for anything...


Posted by Zild on Jan-10-2006 00:56:

See I'm the exact opposite of Trondman. The first time I ever used CD decks they were Pioneer CDJ100s and I had a flawless set. Since then the only decks I've ever had a real problem with have been the dz1200s, I hate those things.


Posted by Prism on Jan-13-2006 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by sirhiss
There is one bug where the player will jump back to the cue point after about 30 seconds of playback.
Someone also reported the players going silent for a few seconds in the middle of a song.

http://www.denondjforums.com/index....viewtopic&t=514

http://www.denondjforums.com/index....iewtopic&t=1205


Check Denon website they've released an upate plugin
-Resolved an infrequent loop back to Cue issue also causing the time display to freeze
-Resolved going into PLAY mode from heavy Cue Stutter operation
-Resolved time display issue during simultaneous scratch and pitch slider operation
-Added the ability to turn on/off the Effects while scratching
-Added the ability to use Brake/Dump/Rvs effects while recording a sample
-Added the ability to automatically copy the disc pitch and key information during disc sampling or Hot Copy
-Current version numbers: SYS 095 DSP 0A26


Posted by Xone62 on Jan-15-2006 01:35:

I have the DNs5000 for 2 years now. Love it


Posted by Zild on Jan-15-2006 01:44:

I just mixed a set on the S1000s, and wow they are great.



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