TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Canada - Toronto & Southern Ont.
-- Dealer wants $1500?!
Pages (2): [1] 2 »

Dealer wants $1500?!

I bought an 03 350Z with 22,000km off a Nissan dealer several months ago. They inspected the car and said that was in "excellent, like new condition." I specifically asked about the transmission, as it's a major issue with these cars, and they said it was fine. As evident from my other thread, the clutch just died. They're saying it's because i wore it and that i owe them $1500. But the clutch is supposed to last 100,000km - this one is only at 29,000! Now, i'm assuming the previous owner wore the hell out of it. That, or there is a mechanical problem that caused it to get worn so quickly. Regardless, why should i pay for this?! If they inspected and failed to notice the problem, they should pay! If it was a mechanical problem, they should pay! There is NO WAY that the clutch was in "excellent condition" at 22,000 and DIED at 29,000 because of my driving! What the hell!!

hahahaha japanese piece of shit

If they inspected it when you bought it and it was fine, and 7,000kms later the disc was shredded, YOU FUCKING SUCK AT DRIVING STICK.

Now back to your regularly scheduled doldrums.

suck it up and pay for the new clutch because even if they missed it in their inspection you'll never prove it and, moreover, unless they guarenteed you the transmission was fine as a condition of sale you really have no recourse.

Re: Dealer wants $1500?!

quote:

Originally posted by d!abolic I bought an 03 350Z with 22,000km off a Nissan dealer several months ago. They inspected the car and said that was in "excellent, like new condition." I specifically asked about the transmission, as it's a major issue with these cars, and they said it was fine. As evident from my other thread, the clutch just died. They're saying it's because i wore it and that i owe them $1500. But the clutch is supposed to last 100,000km - this one is only at 29,000! Now, i'm assuming the previous owner wore the hell out of it. That, or there is a mechanical problem that caused it to get worn so quickly. Regardless, why should i pay for this?! If they inspected and failed to notice the problem, they should pay! If it was a mechanical problem, they should pay! There is NO WAY that the clutch was in "excellent condition" at 22,000 and DIED at 29,000 because of my driving! What the hell!!

they inspected it and said it was fine. It failed. Unless you can prove that there was a problem, you're screwed. Shitty, but unless it's a manufacturer warrantied part, that's the way it is.

Tires and brakes "should" last a certain period of time, but how can you prove a defect vs. them calling it wear and tear or owner negligence?

For all they know, you can't drive...for all you know, they scammed you. The point is, it's your word against theirs and dealers rarely lose. Call Nissam customer service, complain as loudly as you can, point out how much you've promoted the car to others, etc...and hope they at least meet you halfway...

btw...this is the danger of buying used...you save a ton of cash, but even with impeccable service records, you have NO idea how the previous owner treated (or mistreated) the car. I'd be especially wary of buying a sports car used...for all you know, the prev. owner drove the shit out of it (or noticed a shitty tranny and sold it).

Clutches are wear items anyway. They'll never be covered under any sane manufacturer's warranty.

quote:

Originally posted by VERTiG0 If they inspected it when you bought it and it was fine...

That's the thing, it WASN'T fine. The salesman said they inspected, but they didn't. There is NO WAY i could have fried the clutch after 7k!

quote:

Originally posted by d!abolic That's the thing, it WASN'T fine. The salesman said they inspected, but they didn't. There is NO WAY i could have fried the clutch after 7k!

How do you know they didn't inspect it?

quote:

Originally posted by d!abolic That's the thing, it WASN'T fine. The salesman said they inspected, but they didn't. There is NO WAY i could have fried the clutch after 7k!

from their standpoint, you could have. The dealer isn't "nissan"...they are an independently owned dealership, right? i.e. if they do something under warranty, it's because "Nissan" pays for it. If it's a wear item, they won't be reimbursed by "Nissan", so they're not going to do the work and pay for the parts for free.

So your beef is with Nissan...not the dealer (unless you can prove it wasn't inspected).

like I said...call Nissan customer service and plead your case...that's about all you can do.

quote:

Originally posted by MarkT like I said...call Nissan customer service and plead your case...that's about all you can do.

Aaaaaand from friends' experience with Nissan, they'll tell you politely to fuck off

Clutches are wear items, like brakes and windshield wipers. You're fucked.

www.livejournal.com

ba ha
that sucks

Argue it man...my buddy is a Garage manager at a Nissan dealership and they are fucking nazis when it comes to determining wether foul play is involved in normally covered items...

...or just buy a BMW and find out the differance German engineering makes.

- - - 1993 Golf 420,000 kms, 1 clutch and a broken windshield.

no clutch should die that quickly....unless you are a real dumbass driver, or the previous owner was...or he used to race/beat the drap outta the car before.

Still...the clutch on my 2.5 RS was always bad..it used to rattle and shudder when cold. I spoke to the dealer many times about it, but they never did anything. But after much arguing, I managed to get a replacement clutch at 77,000km! I found a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) online about replacing shitty clutches, and my car fell into the category.

Join a Nissan forum and see what they say.

Also, most dealerships offer a 3-month warranty when buying new cars...so you can try that. And a few "wear items" are still covered under warranty for a fair amount of time. I know brakes are usually covered for the first 12,000km or so...maybe the clutch is covered.

Check it out man...dont get fucked by the dealers.

quote:

Originally posted by 7-4-7 - - - 1993 Golf 420,000 kms, 1 clutch and a broken windshield.

That was the last year of real Volkswagens. 1994+ they're all tremendous piles of shit. You'll never see a VW like the MkIs and MkIIs ever again.

quote:

Originally posted by VERTiG0 That was the last year of real Volkswagens. 1994+ they're all tremendous piles of shit. You'll never see a VW like the MkIs and MkIIs ever again.

Aye. They go on about superior German engineering but they are built in Mexico.

quote:

Originally posted by Soundwerks no clutch should die that quickly....unless you are a real dumbass driver, or the previous owner was...or he used to race/beat the drap outta the car before. Still...the clutch on my 2.5 RS was always bad..it used to rattle and shudder when cold. I spoke to the dealer many times about it, but they never did anything. But after much arguing, I managed to get a replacement clutch at 77,000km! I found a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) online about replacing shitty clutches, and my car fell into the category. Join a Nissan forum and see what they say. Also, most dealerships offer a 3-month warranty when buying new cars...so you can try that. And a few "wear items" are still covered under warranty for a fair amount of time. I know brakes are usually covered for the first 12,000km or so...maybe the clutch is covered. Check it out man...dont get fucked by the dealers.

Dealers will do anything to make the sell. best thing to do before buying any car from a used dealer - take the car to another shop for a second opinion. if there is nothing wrong with the car, the dealer will have no issue letting it go. but if there may be something wrong, the dealer may make some B.S. story to keep it from being inspected off the lot.

i picked up a 96 Z28 6spd back in 2000 (fairly cheap $19K w/ 78K) - but typical of any sports car - im sure a lot of people had the chance to see what this car could do. (and i had to pay for it in the end)

dealer said they just dropped in a new clutch - after driving around for a few months (even when i just bought it) there was always a chatter and a bit of shaking when engaging the clutch. finally got to the point where the engine would turn without the car moving while in gear.

86k kms - i had to change the clutch - i called the dealer and did the old: eh! What the Fuck!?! i just bought it! - because i was over the 3 month warranty they would not change it, and i would have to pay $2400.00 if i had it done.

Fuk that! did it myself! $250 - new clutch

if i could post pics on this site i would show you the clutch the dealer literally "just dropped in" - they did not center and align the friction disk. nor did they grease the bearings or torque the bolts on the pressure plate. the chatter was caused by the disk slipping and cutting/grinding the edge of the plate housing and bolts.

oh well, live & learn.

no problems 6 years later +120K on the clutch i installed.

If you can push up to the manager, complain like hell and act really ignorant at whatever points they try and bring up and then re introduce your complaint. This will help especially if you look like a fob.

best luck.

- carbonlite

quote:

Originally posted by VERTiG0 YOU FUCKING SUCK AT DRIVING STICK.

quote:

Originally posted by VERTiG0 That was the last year of real Volkswagens. 1994+ they're all tremendous piles of shit. You'll never see a VW like the MkIs and MkIIs ever again.

much needed advice, thank you.

When I read the title, I thought to myself.. "For how many grams?"

ignore all the bashing from everyone. the car still has a warranty on it. and there is no real way to inspect a clutch withoutremoving a tranny.

i worked at a dealer before. sooooo the factory warranty should cover the clutch repair unless the vehicle has been branded (written off) so tell them fuck you. i have my warranty. fix and it and have a nice fucking day.

good thing you are always bragging about how much money you have. therefore the 1500 for a new clutch should be no problem at all

quote:

Originally posted by Theresa When I read the title, I thought to myself.. "For how many grams?"

I think $1500 is a little out of the "grams" range.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.