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what happened to chicago?

why is nobody coming here anymore?

why does spundae party up big time everywhere else?

why was godskitchen so fast to get the fook out?

why is the level of suck at purefuture so high?



...the events in chicago are shittier then ever... WTF happened??!?

has chicago became so fkn lame??

Crobar went to shit too

Yeah, like that time Godskitchen brought in Judge Jules, that was great....

HAHAHAHA

Seriously, I've seen people posting this before. Purefuture brings in just about the same acts that GK was bringing in with a few minor variations: Beyer, G&D, AvB, PvD, Howells, etc. and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more. So uh, what is exactly the problem?

Can't speak for Crobar and their promoters though - been there only twice this year: - once for Sander K and the other time I think I got lost and walked in by accident.

i dunno why people keep complaining... Pure brought in a LOT of great talent last year. i don't go out as often as i like because i'm not a Chicago local, but when we have to start picking and choosing events because there's too many good DJs coming to Chicago all in one month, that's a pretty good sign that they're booking acts that people want to see. i'd say the biggest noticable difference is that Pure books way more local DJs to open for the big-name guys (which can be a great thing or a bad thing).

also, it's winter. i believe a lot of DJs take vacations and take breaks from gigs in January. last year there was no one spectacular booked in January (with the exception of Ferry on New Years Day)... at least this year we've got a few amazing DJs who are definitely worth checking out.

i'm curious, zigot... what genre of dance music do you listen to? what DJs should Pure book that they haven't already?

??? Judge Jules, Ha!

Pure books more talent than any other promoter/club in the country (and more than GK/Spundae did when they were here). On any given Friday AND Saturday we have tons of big name, small name, diverse, talented DJs up in here. Fall 2005 was absolutely ridiculous as far as the amount and diversity of DJs in here. Its almost TOO much as people are "trained" to only go out to see the really big names. I've heard San Fran is the opposite with people supporting locals more than the big guys.

If anything, the majority of clubbers and cheesy-ass DJs in Chicago are whats lame but that is another discussion...

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Originally posted by jonSun Crobar went to shit too

crobar's always been shit

and yeah it pisses me off that spundae left [still] and GK was out in a jiffy. im wonderin what pure will do. we need a GREAT label that will stick for years! theres stil some great talent that comes to chi, mostly soundbar and goodbar, as well as a few others

It's been a while but from what I remember is that Spundae was expanding into multiple markets in US and joined up with GK not only to leverage more big names into US but also to distribute them better amongst their U.S. markets. It didn't quite work out and Spundae chose not to renew the contract.

I dont think Spundae operates outside of L.A./S.F. area anymore though and I don't think that GK operates within U.S. either (perhaps maybe just some markets in the northeast.)

Curley and Prasad have done a good job of bringing major talent into the city as well as showcasing local talent as opening acts for headliners as well. The best part about Pure promoting is that they split up fridays and saturdays between Vision and Sound-bar so you no longer make that choice about who you want to see if they are on the same night

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Originally posted by KID-M Fall 2005 was absolutely ridiculous as far as the amount and diversity of DJs in here.

Agreed. When kids from 5 hours away are fighting to decide what they can afford to get down to Chicago to see, and what they're going to have to miss, that's a great sign...

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Originally posted by KID-M If anything, the majority of clubbers and cheesy-ass DJs in Chicago are whats lame but that is another discussion...

While that may be true, I'll say this, you guys (You, Mili, James, and Seneca in particular) seem to have worked out a pretty good situation, and you've definitely set the bar higher for a lot of the locals. I'm not saying there aren't a lot of cheesy Chicago DJ's that still get booked, you 4 obviously aren't playing everywhere all the time, I think it's very obvious how hard you guys work to gain the support of the clubbers in Chicago, and soon hopefully you'll all see the emergence of more and more support for the locals...

As far as the original poster goes, I'll say this much; I've had my own opinions on the Pure/GK/Spundae debate... There are definitely more than a few times I think Pure has dropped the ball on one event or the other (NYE comes to mind), but at the same time, you can find something to bitch about with almost any promotion/promoter out there.

I don't think Chicago is hurting right now, Pure made Myra and I struggle over who it was we were going to be able to make it down to Chicago to see, and January (A traditionally slow month in clubland) has already shaped up damn well (Max G and Donald Glaude? z0mg! ), so I guess the way I see it, unless you have some very specific issue with Pure that you'd like to address, I'd stay away from making "Why does Pure suck so much?" posts without anything to back them up...

Pure has brought quality electronic music events to Chicago for the past 10... count it again... 10 years!

who needs a different brand name when Pure already is one? Pure has brought itself to a level equal to or greater than Spundae or Godskitchen as far as how the events are billed or pulled off. Granted they don't have the venue to throw a Global Gathering type of event around here but I'm sure they could pull it off given a chance and place to do so. Spundae originated in Cali, Pure in Chicago and Godskitchen in the UK. All are branching out to different locales or trying to rather with somewhat mixed results.

I couldn't tell you why Spundae came and went as well as Godskitchen. What I can tell you is that you are all very lucky to have a dedicated team like Pure to even bring you events EVERY WEEK! You can't have your Tiestos and PVDs every week so deal with the slower weeks with anticipation of bigger events in the future.

did any of that make sense?

ps - I'm just about done with my 4 hour+ best of 2005 mix

Other than no one being in Chicago for NYE again, things haven't been too bad here at all. I missed the big names last time around, but Tiesto, PVD, Sasha and Armin were all here this year. Max Graham is this weekend, Markus last, and BT and G&D earlier in December, not to mention the insane Deep Dish residency. Matthew Dekay played Soundbar and I believe only played 2 or 3 other U.S. dates. Smartbar has also had Porter, Howells, Derrick Carter, Tiefschwarz, etc. Spundae still sends e-mail ads and there's never been anything that's jumped out that they're putting on in other markets that we haven't seen within the past year.

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I'll say this, you guys (You, Mili, James, and Seneca in particular) seem to have worked out a pretty good situation, and you've definitely set the bar higher for a lot of the locals. I'm not saying there aren't a lot of cheesy Chicago DJ's that still get booked, you 4 obviously aren't playing everywhere all the time, I think it's very obvious how hard you guys work to gain the support of the clubbers in Chicago, and soon hopefully you'll all see the emergence of more and more support for the locals...

Going off of this, I remember having a discussion with some TAs last week at Soundbar about how much quality there's been as far as the locals go. A lot of times I've found them to be more enjoyable than the big names because they put 10x the effort into their sets, since they're often playing to the same faces every week and want to maintain quality while trying to play fresh tracks.

relode is the problem

I liked all the promoters but Pure is by far the best! Who else gets you in for free most of the time, and even on occasion had free drinks!! Viva Los Pure!

perhaps its simply your taste in music my friend.

i just moved here from connecticut - the only shows that nyc and boston had were big names - all trancy dancy...

chicago's taste and diversity in music is definately what's keeping me alive - PURE has definately done an awesome job and the locals..
that's another story.

i'm just upset i couldn't make it to all the parties in fall of '05.

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Originally posted by DJ RJT Agreed. When kids from 5 hours away are fighting to decide what they can afford to get down to Chicago to see, and what they're going to have to miss, that's a great sign...

HA! THAT WAS ME! [I'm sure others as well]. If I wasn't stuck @ school out here in Ames, IA, I would have gone to a LOT more shows. In a span of, what 4 or 5 weeks?, there was around 6 shows I wanted to see.

I often found it more frustrating having to decide which shows to go or not to go, rather than there not being any decisions at all [did that make sense? it sounded right in my head...]

Sound-bar is the only one having anything worthy at this time, but my financial situation as well as school/play have ruined my chances to come out for anything until... mid-feb.

the underground scene in chicago is pretty damn good...just gotta know people

TWO WORDS!

I've got two words for you.....

James Zabiela

February in Chicago....I mean, I'll consider it a great year right then. All you need other than that is cowbell. I'm sure more labels or whatever will form up soon. You live in a nice city. Let's all just relax and enjoy the robophobia.

Thats all:.

Re: TWO WORDS!

I have a couple of more words for you

Blank and Jones

feb 24th Zabiela and 25th Blank and Jones what more could you ask for?

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Originally posted by dubblies I've got two words for you..... James Zabiela February in Chicago....I mean, I'll consider it a great year right then. All you need other than that is cowbell. I'm sure more labels or whatever will form up soon. You live in a nice city. Let's all just relax and enjoy the robophobia. Thats all:.

so how about Pure uses the most-wasteful place in Chicago to host a festival? yup, you guessed it right, Millennium Park, or even Grant Park where the Taste of Chicago is held annually....

Why can't there be a dance festival if there's hicks coming to the city to see Lennard Skinnard? who ever that old guy's is... (europeans are oblivious to the oldies of the US, bc simply put: we are in 2006)

but... why not?

And who would fill that park?

And who would be headlining?

And for how many days would it be?

I'd love to see Chicago establish an annual festival like the Love Parade and WMC but to put it bluntly - the local support just isn't there.

This isn't the Field of Dreams - if you build it, chances are no one will come.

Wait, I found out that the Pure Future Festival is actually in Lithuania which all makes sense now.

http://filteredtools.blogspot.com/2...rak-pilyje.html

Pure has got Psycho Bitch & Teri Bristol @ Vision. Theres a gaurenteed good night of music. So stop complaining.

Pure is an good promoter. The plus is that they have both Sound Bar on fridays and Vision on saturdays. So they have more options in terms of dates to book djs. I personally don't like Sound bar; Vision is cool.; but to have something to do both nights is nice. Also they have been trying to keep bringing the big names(as Godskitchen and Spundae used to do) and at the same time bring different styles of music. Now you see more techno than with Godskitchen for example(look at feb schedule for Vision). Also I think they are doing a better job at giving the local talent a spot on frid and sat nights. So in general I think they are doing a good job. Can't forget that this is a money driven bussiness. So if you don't make money then no club for tonight. So the problem is that there not enough audience to have more trance/techno in Chicago or better said big club nights. For example my friend lived in Munich for a year. She told me that every weekend there were at least 4-5 clubs packed playing techno/trance. It's sad but it's really about money.

"Seriously, I've seen people posting this before."

maybe because there IS a LOT of people out there that feel chicago scene became extreemly bogus.

this might be a very bold statement to some, but there is a lot of us out there who don't care about (what some label) 'new talent'. plenty of us irked to the maximum because of the 'shitty parties situation'... PURE might of been hard at work for over a 100 years, but bottom line is PURE is not delivering! ...and I'm not talking about the slow month of january...I'm talking about most of the 2005 including the shittiest NYE chicago has ever witnessed (had they brought in 'hoodini & blowfish' that would of at least been something)!

they do make some cool things happen... unfortunatelly only on a rare occasion...with 0 continuity..

as a person living in a metropolitan city of 10+ mil, I don't want good parties that kids from Rockford wanna come see, I want frkn SUBERB parties that kids from Spain wanna come see. I know I'm not alone on this.

If you ask me about any ideas ... just look at 03 and 04 ... two consecutive years of world class quality parties...absolutely great fkn times!!


the way I see it... PURE might wanna give spundae a call and ask them how it's done



PS: ditch Sound-Bar... that place is so full of itself (shite) it's not even funny... I like to go to soundbar when I urge to be insulted by the service over and over....which is never again

You're an idiot.


Shut the fuck up.

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