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Just got my Elacin Ear protection (ER15's)

And they're really good, it's amazing how they take away so much sound yet leave so much still to be heard.

It's weird. I've got two places where i can 'test' them. One being my car, where i've got quite a powerful system installed (DLS R5A's up front running off a Genesis amp 4x70rms roughly and an RE SE 12" sub running from a DLS A3 amp (getting around 750rms))..

Obviously Dj'ing is the other area i'll have to test them (only picked them up an hour ago and still haven't gotten home to my decks)..

Anyway, i'm really impressed with how they do their job but i have a question for anyone else who owns a pair.

Do your ear buds stick out of your ear at all? My left one is pretty snug, you can barely notice it from a front on view (eg if you were looking at my head on) but my right ear bud sticks out a fair bit. Supposidly my ear canal gets quite small at the opening so they had to do this, but it's annoying as it's obviously visible.

Just wondered if i should go back to the ear doc and get him to maybe take a second mould of my right ear, or is this normal? Just wondering as i paid so much for them

Thanks
nelly

i didnt think the custom moulded ones should protrude from the ear. if one is ok then the other isnt done properly maybe?

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Originally posted by richg101 i didnt think the custom moulded ones should protrude from the ear. if one is ok then the other isnt done properly maybe?

That's what i thought, i'm gonna try them on with my new cans this weekend and see how it fits.

I was just trying to find out from people on here who have had them done whether theirs stuck out at all?

Now by stuck out i mean a few mill, around 3-4, which is noticeable however. The Doc said something about my right ear canal being that little bit narrower than my left one, hence the ear bud had to stick out a little more. For some reason i think he was bullshitting a little.

Hence why i'm asking you lads

nelly

Custom should do what they say on the tin, customized to your own specifications. Explain the situation and say the fitting is troubling you and you should get a free replacement.

How much did you pay for them?

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Originally posted by ZeJayMan Custom should do what they say on the tin, customized to your own specifications. Explain the situation and say the fitting is troubling you and you should get a free replacement.

I'm gonna give them a call on monday, letting them know i'm not happy with the right ear.

The left one is fine, you can't notice it when speaking to me face to face. The right one however is blatantly obvious.

I paid 250 euro for them.

They drop the volume considerably! yet you can still hear people really well. It's an odd feeling.

Only thing i sometimes wonder is whether i'll just be pushing my earphones etc more to be able to hear them louder lol.. but then i'll be protecting my ears as the highest volume wont come close to hurting my ears.

nelly

Personally if i was going to the trouble of ear protection, id go one better and just not listen to loud music. Why bother about your ears ?? you only go deaf in time and die in the end anyways. Id rather spend the money on other things. Life's to short to go worrying about things like that dude

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Originally posted by knoxy5000 Personally if i was going to the trouble of ear protection, id go one better and just not listen to loud music. Why bother about your ears ?? you only go deaf in time and die in the end anyways. Id rather spend the money on other things. Life's to short to go worrying about things like that dude

You my friend, are an idiot..

No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about if you're making comments like the one above.

nelly

Hence why i said personally i wouldnt bother with them, where as you have bothered with them, nothing wrong with that, i just made my opinion and views known. Doesnt make either of us right nor wrong.

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Originally posted by knoxy5000 Hence why i said personally i wouldnt bother with them, where as you have bothered with them, nothing wrong with that, i just made my opinion and views known. Doesnt make either of us right nor wrong.

no i know what you're saying, but sometimes it's easier to want to give something up then it is to actually give it up.

By this i mean, music. More specifically, playing it loud. I find i have little control on how loud i play the music as when i'm in the 'mood' and getting into things i tend to turn it up a little bit. Before i got these ear plugs i always found myself going "shit it's too loud"

A slight dose of tinnitus will make you realise that not being able to hear silence ever again is a horrible thing.

Plus my hearing means a lot to me, and i'm hoping with the precautions i'm taking at this young age (22) i'll be able to hear things when you might not be able to. Being deaf/hard of hearing isn't fun..

Think about it, they have correctional surgery for a lot of your body, your ears are one of the more difficult things to fix.

A movie actually got me thinking seriously about all of this actually (funnily enough) 'It's all gone Pete Tong' Dunno if you've seen it?

I do know what you're saying though, but think you're being a bit naive..

Again that's only MY opinion.

nelly

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Originally posted by n3lly no i know what you're saying, but sometimes it's easier to want to give something up then it is to actually give it up. By this i mean, music. More specifically, playing it loud. I find i have little control on how loud i play the music as when i'm in the 'mood' and getting into things i tend to turn it up a little bit. Before i got these ear plugs i always found myself going "shit it's too loud" A slight dose of tinnitus will make you realise that not being able to hear silence ever again is a horrible thing. Plus my hearing means a lot to me, and i'm hoping with the precautions i'm taking at this young age (22) i'll be able to hear things when you might not be able to. Being deaf/hard of hearing isn't fun.. Think about it, they have correctional surgery for a lot of your body, your ears are one of the more difficult things to fix. A movie actually got me thinking seriously about all of this actually (funnily enough) 'It's all gone Pete Tong' Dunno if you've seen it? I do know what you're saying though, but think you're being a bit naive.. Again that's only MY opinion. nelly

Thing is im partially deaf in my right ear, and because of the shape of my ear canal even if i wanted to i cant wear ear protection / inner ear headphones. And yes i know what its like to go deaf, everytime i get a cold and my sinuses swell up i lose all hearing in my right ear, also making it hard for me to keep my balance. Had grommmets fitted to try and help, never worked tho

Its never stopped me playing music loud, i just wanna enjoy it all whilst i can

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Originally posted by knoxy5000 Thing is im partially deaf in my right ear, and because of the shape of my ear canal even if i wanted to i cant wear ear protection / inner ear headphones. And yes i know what its like to go deaf, everytime i get a cold and my sinuses swell up i lose all hearing in my right ear, also making it hard for me to keep my balance. Had grommmets fitted to try and help, never worked tho Its never stopped me playing music loud, i just wanna enjoy it all whilst i can

Sorry mate, but if you suffer from the above... how can you be making comments about me spending a small amount (in my opinion for something so important) on my hearing.

Surely you of all people would understand? Just doesn't make sense..
Dunno if others would agree or not but i find it odd that you wouldn't want to take care of the other ear.

Sorry to hear that you suffer from the canal problem etc, obviously you have experience so but i'm just even more surprised by what you're saying so.

nelly

Mainly because for me its part of my daily life, and i just get on with it.
The only thing the specialist recommended for mewas pour luke warm olive oil into my canals and let it soak in, and to then get them syringed quarterly a year. Works a treat

Its just ive had my ears fiddled with and had all sorts done which was supposed to be good for them and its made them nothing but worse. Total nightmare thats why i dont care anymore. Mad but true.

Very good job on getting the ear protection, they should be mandatory for any serious DJ. I'm actually in the process of getting some myself after a bad experience from a club where my ears rang for weeks. Scared the living daylights out of me, I thought my hearing was fcuked for life. I've since then taken it as a healthy warning that I should protect my ears before it's too late.

Now to the guy who said protecting your ears is basically a waste of money/time. Try to imagine for a minute that your ears are ringing and will never stop. It's called tinnitus and millions of people suffer from it. It really sucks because you will never be able to hear silence ever again once you develop it. DJs are exposed to loud noise environments and are at high risk for permanent ear damage. So please don't be so naive with your smart ass comments when a guy is just trying to take care of his hearing.

dude you dont want to spend 120 euro to protect yourself? you only spend money on such a thing once.

im sorry if you are cool with being deaf, but i personally hate it when i dont hear people clearly. plus, it feels really bad to talk to someone who doesnt hear well. i was speaking to a lady who was 40s and she asked me to repeat myself everytime i asked a question. i didnt get mad about it, but i just noticed thats how i would be without ear protection and it sucks. if you can prevent something from happening to you, why not invest a little money into it? that is not bad investment. that is a great investment. once you mess up your hearing, 100000 euro wont get you back to hearing like before.

For a second i thought i was the only one who cared for my hearing there lol..

They were actually 250 euro But who's counting. Had they been more expensive i would have just waited a little longer till i took Dj'ing to another level (playing out regularly etc)

Anywho...

nelly

Ive never had ringing for days, probably because my ears are already so far gone. So i cant comment on having tinnitus, I dont have trouble hearing ppl face to face nor do i need hearing aids. As ive said before even if i wanted i couldnt protect my ears, i didnt dis you for doing so. All i said was personally for me its a waste of time, even if i wanted to i cant put anything inside my ears otherwise then i will have permanent ear damage as my canals just swell up and inflame.

Its good that you are protecting yours, but as for comments calling me smart ass, put yourself in my shoes when you have bad ears and theres not a fucking thing you can do about, or anything you can do to protect them. Im just jealous that you can protect your ears, where as i cant

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Originally posted by knoxy5000 Personally if i was going to the trouble of ear protection, id go one better and just not listen to loud music.

that was the comment which made me have a slight go at you. But i do feel for you not having 100% Hearing, however again i would have thought that would make you realise how precious hearing is, and protect the other ear a little more. (read.. A LOT more!)

In the end i know what you're saying, it is a lot of money, but for myself it was just a couple of hours work (paid work) which i then forgot about as i knew what i was working for from the word go.

Kind of like when people save up for cdj/mixers/whatever they want next.

Anywho, i know where you're coming from now I just hope your hearing stays at a reasonable level over the years mate, with your attitude and everything... Fingers crossed!

nelly

ps. Ringing for days (tinnitus) is horrible, it's the main reason why i chose to do something about the whole hearing protection. The ear plugs eliminate all the high end frequencies (well tone them down a lot!) Stuff that's inaudible (is that spelt right?) but still damages your ears.. I'm finding it more difficult then i thought though Dj'ing, as the low end has been substantially reduced as well.

At the end of the day you can't put a price on your hearing - you don't get a new set of ears once you've screwed yours up. If you're a DJ playing out often, it won't take that long to develop some kind of hearing problem (however minor). You can't exactly ask the club owner to turn it down a bit, so ear protection like this is your only option really. A hundred or so quid you could have spent on some proper earplugs will seem like nothing when you can't hear anymore!

Andy

P.S. Hi from Talkaudio n3lly!

great idea mate! im going to do the same when i got money, i want to look after my hearing. Hearing loss is a huge problem when you get older a large majority of people have problems or are deaf. its something that shouldnt be dismissed as nothing to worry about (if you want to take precautions)

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Originally posted by andydavey P.S. Hi from Talkaudio n3lly!

How's it going buddy, just to refresh my memory, what's your username on TA, cause i know there's no andydavey (username anyway )

Didn't know there were TA's on here (woops that makes no sense, TA=TalkAudio as well..)

nelly

Hey there!

I got a pair of ER25s, about 2 months ago now. Paid $150 CDN for em.
SO I'll assume they're the same as yours except mine have 25db attenuation.
They sound awesome, especially in the city's best sounding nightclub.
Even on other systems, I can hear the problems or distortions that get muddied up by foam plugs or naked ear hearing.

Mine don't pertrude too much, once they've been snug fit in. WHen I use them they do tend to fall out ever so slightly. I'm going to ask for another mold if it gets any worse. My ear doctor told me they would eventually get a slight bit smaller as they mold once again into my ear after common use. The custom moulded ones should have the option of a countersunk filter. If your filters aren't countersunk, you should ask for another mould with them countersunk. I can understand that non-countersunk filter on these plugs would hit your headphones while DJing.... that would piss me off.

ANyways.... enjoy em, as they're your key to a longer hearing life for your ears. As a last suggestion, I'd suggest you get teh 25db filters if you end up getting a second moulding or pair ordered.

OT: I'm SubtleD on TA Nelly, don't post an awful lot, but I'm on there!

I am waiting to get my ears tested and have the molds made. At 32, I have spent many nights with my head burried in the speakers, and I too have had the 3-4 ringing in my ears. I wish I had plugs before, coz now days I get a ringing sensation on occassion which lasts for a couple of minutes before fading away.

those foam plugs are good for cutting high frequency, however they don't do much for the lows. All they really do is muffle the sound...

Protect your ears! If you love music, you want to be able to hear it, right?

3-4 days is what i meant...

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