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Posted by Sushi on Jan-05-2006 16:11:

Rave, Trance and Drugs.

Unfortunately trance and raves are associated with the often-proclaimed number one enemy of the Government (at least it was till the terrorists came along), DRUGS. The cops hate raves. Don't believe me? Do a search for that fascist crap that happened in Utah a while back.

Raves are demonized as musical dens of iniquity because about 5-10% (maybe even less) of the people at the rave are rolling on E. There's even legislation now (the aptly named RAVE act) which essentially makes the host of any event where people are using drugs the dealer of those drugs, whether the host knew they were there or not.

The cops hate raves. That's why you don't see really big trance shows, and that's why big arenas wouldn't be caught dead hosting one.

Do only people listening to Trance do drugs? When and where do people listening to Rock / Hip Pop / Rap do drugs? And why not such concerts with drug use are banned ?!!


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-05-2006 16:16:

i think your estimate of 5-10% is waaaay too low.


Posted by Xtatica on Jan-05-2006 16:17:

If you are talking Class a' drugs then of course they do you can find dealers where ever you go, whether it be clubs or concerts - Raves back in my day had most people on Vicks to enhance the effects looking back now seems daft thing to take with you a vick stick but hey thats what we did.....It was when Felix (don't you want my love fame)and Liam Howlett (prodigy) used to to guest DJ down our local football stadium in Essex.....those were the day's


Posted by Sushi on Jan-05-2006 16:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i think your estimate of 5-10% is waaaay too low.


How much you think it is?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-05-2006 16:28:

Who the fuck listens to trance at a rave, anyway?


Posted by munzerxo on Jan-05-2006 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushi
How much you think it is?


Much more!


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-05-2006 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushi
How much you think it is?



at any one event... probably 25-30%... but i bet an overwhelming majority have used drugs at other events at least once...


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-05-2006 16:34:

In Holland and Germany you propably have around 70% of people on a rave or in a club doing drugs like XTC or Amphetamine.

I see no problem with that.

Music and drugs were always related with each other and especially electronic dance music wouldn't exist anymore without producers and ravers doing drugs...


Posted by Cetra� on Jan-05-2006 16:56:

In Adelaide It's about 95% at raves, Meth, Ecstasy, Juice, NOS, Acid, you name it, people take it.

The Drug free group are definately a minority,

Although the trancers are just alcoholics haha, but everyone else....


Posted by Push2005 on Jan-05-2006 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushi
This is what I want to know.. why specially trance?


If there's one musical genre crammed with drugs then it's TECHNO !
Techno is to blame for al the drugs in the clubs; not trance.

I even dare to state that most of the TRUE trance listeners don't take drugs.

But raves get such a negative connotation because they(police; government, ...) associate electronic dance music automaticially with drugs; so trance shouldn't be the black sheep at all.


Posted by Ted Promo on Jan-05-2006 17:20:

5-10%? I take it you've never been to a PvD show. Hell, over half the crowd was on some sort of illicit substance when I went last time.


Posted by Purple on Jan-05-2006 17:45:

Techno music is designed to enhance something and its drugs.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-05-2006 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
5-10%? I take it you've never been to a PvD show. Hell, over half the crowd was on some sort of illicit substance when I went last time.


And Mr. Van Dyk sniffs the biggest lines behind the dj booth


Posted by Sykonee on Jan-05-2006 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Push2005
If there's one musical genre crammed with drugs then it's TECHNO !
Techno is to blame for al the drugs in the clubs; not trance.

I even dare to state that most of the TRUE trance listeners don't take drugs.

Tell that to all the psychedelic hippies who were listening to trance long before you even knew what it was.


Posted by DJ EsseX on Jan-05-2006 19:16:

quote:
Unfortunately trance and raves are associated with the often-proclaimed number one enemy of the Government (at least it was till the terrorists came along), DRUGS


I reckon drugs is not the only problem. Many people are simply drunk and it can cause extreme situations. E.g. durning Mayday prototypes 2005 PL one man(23y.o.) died from drugs overdose. I wouldn't have fun and wouldn't party more , if I saw sb's death. Another example is that a boy ( 16 y.o.) was found dead ( he was completely drunk ) in treanch ; 8 km far from a place where he was celebrating New Year. I don't believe he could walk 8 km being completely dunk. Maybe someone had helped him ... ? Who knows ...

I don't like when people are raving when taken drugs because they are often agressive. I agree with PVD that ,,you don't have to take drugs to feel the rhythm" !!


Posted by DJ EsseX on Jan-05-2006 19:24:

quote:
Unfortunately trance and raves are associated with the often-proclaimed number one enemy of the Government (at least it was till the terrorists came along), DRUGS


The boy was from my area.


Posted by R!CH on Jan-05-2006 20:40:

i hate raves for that specific reason... no greater buzzkill than to be surrounded by a bunch of washing machines. i would say probably 90% of people at raves are TRASHED on dope


Posted by basilisk on Jan-05-2006 20:57:

Read any book on the history of clubbing, raves, acid house, etc. It was all catalyzed by drugs. People these days, in attempting to adapt to the fact that the secret is out, are trying to deny reality. Good luck on that.

Better to fight the system, I figure... not that I do drugs, of course.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-05-2006 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ EsseX
I don't like when people are raving when taken drugs because they are often agressive. I agree with PVD that ,,you don't have to take drugs to feel the rhythm" !!



1st: Paul van Dyk takes drugs by hilmself!

2nd: People on drunks especially XTC or weed aren't agressive at all. They love all other people and are just happy. Only people who drink too much alcohol turn agressive...


And if you put all drug-taking people away from a party it will be a VERY boring party...


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-05-2006 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
i hate raves for that specific reason... no greater buzzkill than to be surrounded by a bunch of washing machines. i would say probably 90% of people at raves are TRASHED on dope



Any why you don't like to party with these people? What's so wrong about them?


Posted by aria_clubber on Jan-06-2006 01:42:

Here in montreal its like 70% and more who use drugs in raves.
and i don't think pvd uses drugs, he said that he's an anti-drug person.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jan-06-2006 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by aria_clubber
Here in montreal its like 70% and more who use drugs in raves.
and i don't think pvd uses drugs, he said that he's an anti-drug person.


the drug use @ Aria is even higher than that....have you ever noticed the same 10 guys dealing in plain sight?And PVD and when it comes to the Tony PVD always says hello...Raphael Palmeiro is anti steroids


Posted by aria_clubber on Jan-06-2006 02:35:

hehe sure aria is another thing haahaha aria is such a drug place

ps to jay.... me = e_Trance


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jan-06-2006 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by aria_clubber
hehe sure aria is another thing haahaha aria is such a drug place

ps to jay.... me = e_Trance


hiding are you???
your friend likes Aria
hey mang


Posted by aria_clubber on Jan-06-2006 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
hiding are you???
your friend likes Aria
hey mang



haahahahahah hell yeah
dude sharam was fuckn sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk at aria and howells even more dude u missed such an awesome party !!!!!!!!!!
r u comming for porter ?


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