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Dub vs. Remix

A Dub is just a song remixed without the lyrics and a remix has the lyrics and is just remixed right???

Re: Dub vs. Remix

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Originally posted by Liquid Fusion A Dub is just a song remixed without the lyrics and a remix has the lyrics and is just remixed right???

Yep. I don't think that the Dub necessarily even has to be remixed. It can be the same exact song as the original, just without the lyrics.

thank you!, by wait i think i have seen dubs with lyrics in them...or am i just imagining them???

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Originally posted by Liquid Fusion thank you!, by wait i think i have seen dubs with lyrics in them...or am i just imagining them???

Unless you have them from a legitimate download source or cd, then I would never really rely on "Napstar", "Kazaa", or any other illegal downloading clients. But do a google search and look into it.

A dub was originally a version with the high frequencies lowered/removed.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Yep. I don't think that the Dub necessarily even has to be remixed. It can be the same exact song as the original, just without the lyrics.

You mean "vocals" not "lyrics".

Dub originally meant the instrumental of a track (something to do with Jamaicans) but now as well as removing vox, a dub removes higher frequencies, usually focusing on the bass elements of the track.

I usually like a dub more than a remix if the track includes vocals, with that said, I'm not a big fan of vocals. But if the vocals are good, then there's no need for a dub or a Instrumental version of the track.

Always go for dubs/instrumentals. Vocals are shite.

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Originally posted by sykadelik Always go for dubs/instrumentals. Vocals are shite.

ALL OF THEM.

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Originally posted by sykadelik Always go for dubs/instrumentals. Vocals are shite.

Yes.

Let's all generalise.

Yay!

A remix can be anything... usually uses vocals and hooks if present in the original.

A dub uses just one phrase or the chorus if vocals are present, and turns it into a cool effect, or hammers home the coolness of the phrase... different songs go about it differently.

Instrumental = no vocals.

i like Cascada vocals

tracks like Endless Summer and Bad Boy are just great! couldnt imagine them being any good as a dub ;(

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby A dub uses just one phrase or the chorus if vocals are present, and turns it into a cool effect, or hammers home the coolness of the phrase...

A 'Dub' doesn't have to do that....

Dubs have a deeper, more 'groovy' sound to them. Most of the time the lyrics are removed, but not completely. They are sometimes used as vox.

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Originally posted by toshirozawa Most of the time the lyrics are removed, but not completely. They are sometimes used as vox.

What the fuck are you talking about?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J What the fuck are you talking about?

What the fuck what? What did you not understand?

Re: Re: Dub vs. Remix

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Yep. I don't think that the Dub necessarily even has to be remixed. It can be the same exact song as the original, just without the lyrics.

Dont some dubs still have parts of the chorus of lyrics in, not a full instrumental, although some are

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Originally posted by toshirozawa What the fuck what? What did you not understand?

"Some of the time the lyrics are used as vocals" is the bit that didn't make any sense whatsoever.

I think he means the actual sound of the voice is used, but not as words, rather as a voice making a tone...

example: Avril Lavigne - I'm With You (leama & moor dub)

I know what you mean. That's vocoding- you blend two sounds together, so a spoken word can be warped into a tune or whatever. Orbital - You Lot, for example.

However... that's not what he said. He said "the lyrics are sometimes used as vocals". Lyrics are the words of the vocals. How can lyrics sometimes be vocals?

What about a Dubmix? Or more frighteningly, a Redub?





Somebody hold me.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I know what you mean. That's vocoding- you blend two sounds together, so a spoken word can be warped into a tune or whatever. Orbital - You Lot, for example. However... that's not what he said. He said "the lyrics are sometimes used as vocals". Lyrics are the words of the vocals. How can lyrics sometimes be vocals?

Not necessarily vocoding...just using the vocals are sound rather than words...they don't have to be vocoded at all.

Lyrics = words
Vocals = sounds made from the mouth but not necessarily spoken or sung words (ie. the vocals in PvD - Nothing But You)

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Originally posted by TwiloThunder Lyrics = words Vocals = sounds made from the mouth but not necessarily spoken or sung words (ie. the vocals in PvD - Nothing But You)

Actually, the vocals in Nothing But You do have proper lyrics, ableit sung in German:

"jeg har ingenting men jeg har alt nar jeg har deg"
[I have nothing but I have everything when I have you]

A better example might have been Matt Darey feat. Izzy - Eternity, which I don't believe mean anything (although they might), or Andy Moor - Halcyon, which has a vocalist singing "Halcyon, we are flying", but played backwards.

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Originally posted by Chris Larkin Actually, the vocals in Nothing But You do have proper lyrics, ableit sung in German: "jeg har ingenting men jeg har alt nar jeg har deg" [I have nothing but I have everything when I have you] A better example might have been Matt Darey feat. Izzy - Eternity, which I don't believe mean anything (although they might), or Andy Moor - Halcyon, which has a vocalist singing "Halcyon, we are flying", but played backwards.

Jan Johnston does part of those vocals along kim

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