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i think i have a problem

i started producing like 4-5 moths ago, though i never finished a track. i start a project and work on it for 3-4 maybe 5 days (2-3 hours a day) and after that i stop.

i have ideeas but after working on it for a few days i think it sucks and there is no point in finishing it. maybe i get too "intime" with the sound or somethin i don't know, or maybe it does suck.

anyway here's my latest project. i have doubts this is worth finishing.

link here

so, is it just me or it actulay sucks? maybe i listened to it too many times.

Post this in the Amateur Music Producers Promotion Forum, I think you will get more feedback there

If you dont like your track, start a new tune and try to consider the possible improvement people suggested. That helped me a lot

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Originally posted by cybernetica Post this in the Amateur Music Producers Promotion Forum, I think you will get more feedback there

will do

lol I have the same problem, I have been producing for 4 years now and I have never finished a track. Only thing I have been doing is creating kicks and basslines. I am never satisfied, I want everything to be perfect. Its not making me happy, but I know this: The first track I will ever finsh will be a monstertune. That, or I will never finish a track.

ps pretty good sample

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Originally posted by Thois I have been producing for 4 years now and I have never finished a track. Only thing I have been doing is creating kicks and basslines. I am never satisfied, I want everything to be perfect. Its not making me happy

+1 Same hear Thois I will not put a tune up unless it sounds half decent...

No excuse with the kit I have

wow...4 years and no track? that's a realy long time.

here's my work

http://s34.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=...7U3RRDCYFK4TT0Z

i agree with dj palm...ofcouse you want your track to be as good as possible. i don't think a producer can think his track is perfect 'cuz he is very "intimate" with the sounds in it, and knows every single mistakes in it. after listening to it for sooo many times while producing it you won't get the real feel of it. my point is that whatever you do it won't be perfect for you, though it may be for others.

When I first started producing, I would religiously finish tracks off, even if it took me months, now it doesnt phase me so much if a track isnt finished. Theres something to be said for finishing tracks, but sometimes you have to know when to stop polishing a turd.

Actually now, I usually try and have atleast two tracks on the go at any one time. That way if I'm in a fiddly mood I can polish up one or try something new on the other if I'm feeling creative.

btw: Your track sounds relatively 'finished' Other than adding fx and whatnot, I wouldnt go changing much about it. Move on...

"but sometimes you have to know when to stop polishing a turd."

haha

I have never finished a track either, and ive been producing for over 6 years..... I think i can produce something close to a pro standard, but i always get hung up on the melody. If it sounds remotely cheesy or familiar (and everything does, to me anyway) i just scrap it and try again. Its a bit frustrating
So now i just mess around in my sequencer now and then, getting nowhere.

A good listener or musician has ideas in his head, he can imagine how a song should sound, what sound instruments drives a potential listener to the sky, what feeling shoud have a track, but only a good producer put thoose ideas on tracks. Composing a bassline or some drum tracks it's just a cumulative experience. The entire song involve a lot of work, I think that's the reason because some producers do not finish them work

Hey all,

couldn't help but chip in on the subject. You need a heck of a lot of patience to learn to churn out a signable tune. Don't be lazy is my advice. Learning new techniques and production tricks is more like doing homework than DJ'�ng for a crowd. But once you have the skills mastered it's like riding a bike, you never forget and eventualy they will come to you automacaly. You will know what techniques to use when you want a certain sound. Moving on from loops and actualy getting your first full sequence down is just like this. Just don't be lazy and just throw yourself in the deep end.

The track I heard sounds like it was made in fruityloops. I have to say that fruityloops doesn't realy envite you to be very creative along the timeline. Fruity is better for just cooking up an absolutely perfect loop and repeating it a few times with a bit of tweaking here and there.

kind regards,

Charlie D

This track is pretty good, I'd say. I think you're thinking too much from a fear of being bad, than anything else. Too often, I see the mentality that "if my track isn't decent, it can't go on the Promotion Forum." This viewpoint is fundamentally flawed; the promotion forum serves two purposes, as far as I can tell: promotion for burgeoning professional producers, and education for amateur producers. Essentially, it is a resource on things one has to learn to make technically good productions. Further, it allows others to review the composition and aesthetic qualities of the submitted music. So one can even learn the musicality and aesthetics of trance or whatever.

I started out with crap productions, but within two years on the Promotion Forum, I've learned a great deal technically, and even have begun to develop a unique style. Don't be afraid that a poor production will not be accepted on the forums.

I'd also say that it's good to try to "finish" a song at least once, even if it isn't a particularly good one. It's a good experience to have, because you'll know what if feels like to "finish" a track, and will be able to make that judgement more accurately later in your career.

Also be mindful that you'll never truly finish a track. You'll just make presentable tracks. You can always go back and review your concepts later, and thinking of a track as finished can get in the way of that action.

thanks for the tips everyone

It takes me about a year before I come around to actually completing a song. But I feel I learn a lot from working on the bastardized attempts at music that I make during the rest of that time. As long as you can come away from a session with the feeling that you know something useful that you didn't know before, even if it's just newfound appreciation for a piece of kit, then it should be worth it in the long run.

Hey. The track sounds great!

I also have that problem. I start making a track, and then I hang up on the mixing or something. I don't have the inspiration to finnish it.

When I began making music, 4 years ago, I always finnished my tracks. Now I need to make everything sound so perfect. I wish I could make it as simple as when I began making music.

The only tips I have is to wait untill you've got much inspiration, and start producing when you know that you have many hours free.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex Also be mindful that you'll never truly finish a track. You'll just make presentable tracks. You can always go back and review your concepts later, and thinking of a track as finished can get in the way of that action.

Very much agree with this statement. Tracks are abandoned, not finished. Especially in the early stages of being a producer. Even pro's come back to tracks and do a '2005 edit' for example. When I accepted that as a fact, I found that my creativity and speed of production increased quite a bit. I dont agonise over details now and let the tracks take their own shape. Personally I think good tracks will flow out of you when the time comes.

Also bear in mind that its possible to overproduce a track if you dont know what your doing. I go back and listen to some of the earlier edits of my tracks and some of them completely kick arse over the final versions.

been producing for a good 5 years, same problem... all incomplete tracks... till last month i decided to take it to the next level...
my new rule is to work on 8 bars always looping... for any edm style... i keep building... next step i take a beatmap a popular track... in a program like sony acid... and follow the actual structure of the track... insert markers... and the fun begins there... i find this helps big time...
here's my latest track... it started with a simple 8 bar loop...

dutch_and_conway_redemption.mp3

i did some changes with the sound

sample here

It's not bad. Your bassline patch sounds a little too light and floaty to me. How about making it sound more mono and layering a different sub part to it or something? The kick sounds pretty punchy, but I think you can put some more effects on it and really fit it in between the track. For example, I can tell which kick you're using... I know I have it somewhere in my sample bank. It sounds too much like you just threw a kick sample on there instead of taking the time to mesh it with the track.

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Originally posted by djsphere i did some changes with the sound sample here

unbeatable, this is good stuff

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Originally posted by RIPassion It's not bad. Your bassline patch sounds a little too light and floaty to me. How about making it sound more mono and layering a different sub part to it or something? The kick sounds pretty punchy, but I think you can put some more effects on it and really fit it in between the track. For example, I can tell which kick you're using... I know I have it somewhere in my sample bank. It sounds too much like you just threw a kick sample on there instead of taking the time to mesh it with the track.

good suggestions, thanks mate

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Originally posted by Thois unbeatable, this is good stuff

thanks! glad you like it

SMITH&PLEDGER
And finally, any advise to aspiring producers?

Smith:
Don't be impatient and take your time learning all of the elements of the studio, software etc. It can take years and years to reach a professional standard and there's always something new to learn. Also, don't forget that a little music theory is useful so that you can work out chords harmonies etc. Above all, try and make music that moves you and says something new.

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Originally posted by mzvirbulis SMITH&PLEDGER And finally, any advise to aspiring producers? Smith: Don't be impatient and take your time learning all of the elements of the studio, software etc. It can take years and years to reach a professional standard and there's always something new to learn. Also, don't forget that a little music theory is useful so that you can work out chords harmonies etc. Above all, try and make music that moves you and says something new.

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