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Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-09-2006 16:06:

Conservatives lead Liberals by 12% nationally

I think Canadians are finally sick of liberal arrogance. The conservatives are even ahead a little bit in ontario! Gasp!

quote:
TORONTO (Reuters) - The Conservatives have built up their widest lead in the election campaign so far, and appear to have the edge heading into the January 23 election, according to a poll released on Monday.



The Strategic Counsel poll, conducted for The Globe and Mail daily and CTV News, showed the Conservatives have the support of 37 percent of Canadian voters, well above the 29 percent support for the ruling Liberal Party.

It was the Conservative Party's widest lead since the election campaign started last November.

"This is huge," the newspaper quoted Strategic Counsel head Allan Gregg as saying. "This really does show ... (the Conservatives) have slowly convinced the population that they are not kind of offside of the mainstream of Canada."

The left-wing New Democratic Party lost ground from the previous survey, gleaning support from only 15 percent of voters and performing poorly in the crucial electoral battleground of Ontario, where parties must do well to garner a large numbers of seats after the election.

The results came out hours before two debates by party leaders on Monday and Tuesday night, which could shape the tone of the final two weeks of the campaign. They show a significant gain in support for the Conservatives compared with the previous Strategic Counsel survey.

The previous poll, conducted January 3 to January 5, gave the Conservatives 33 percent support, and the Liberals 31 percent. The NDP, who propped up the minority Liberal government in the last Parliament, had 17 percent.

Opposition parties brought the government down late last year over a scandal centering on kickbacks to leading Liberals during a poorly conceived advertising campaign to promote a united Canada.

Other scandals have emerged since then, increasing voter perception of the Liberals as complacent and arrogant after 12 years in power.

Strategic Counsel conducted its latest poll of 1,500 Canadians between January 5 and January 8. It says the survey is accurate within 2.5 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.


Posted by Time2Burn on Jan-09-2006 16:07:

And the English debate is tonight.

Ding ding ding!! Let the mudslinging begin. This could be worse than an episode of Jerry Springer.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-09-2006 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Time2Burn
And the English debate is tonight.

Ding ding ding!! Let the mudslinging begin. This could be worse than an episode of Jerry Springer.


It will be interesting to see how low the liberals go. But i suspect that since this time canadians are expecting it, that it wont work nearly as well. Canadians have actually started to see the liberals for what they are.


Posted by loca on Jan-09-2006 16:18:

What time is the debate on at? And what channel


Posted by simms327 on Jan-09-2006 16:20:

I must admit though - the conservatives could spend a little more money on TV advertising, their TV commercial is so ghetto, if they are serious about people "Standing up for Canada" they should try convey that in their commercial production quality.

but yes i would like to watch the debate, what time?


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-09-2006 16:21:

not sure exactly but it will be definately on cbc newsworld and newsnet


Posted by Time2Burn on Jan-09-2006 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
not sure exactly but it will be definately on cbc newsworld and newsnet


8pm - Any Nationally broadcasting Canadian TV station.


Posted by Skipper on Jan-09-2006 16:49:

I still doubt that the conservatives will win the majority.

Unfortunately I'm not home to watch tonight, but hopefully I can tape it.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-09-2006 16:53:

I think this debate is in same format as the last one. So I dunno how much effective mudslinging the leaders can do.

I also got class tonight... Ah well.


Posted by loca on Jan-09-2006 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I still doubt that the conservatives will win the majority.

Unfortunately I'm not home to watch tonight, but hopefully I can tape it.


I don't think so either. However i can totally see a minority Cons govt happening. That was the prediction in December anyways.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-09-2006 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by loca
I don't think so either. However i can totally see a minority Cons govt happening. That was the prediction in December anyways.

A lot of people thought minority Conservative govt was possible last election too... So let's not get ahead of ourselves.

But yeah, Harper does seem to have the momentum. You never know though, he's got so many things he could trip on and fall on his ass. (Like one of his retarded Conservative members opening his/her yap) (Yes, I'm talking to you, Gordon O'Connor)


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-09-2006 17:09:

Voting for a party in general is wortheless... all of them suck. The best thing one can do, is voter for the best candidate in your riding, someone who can actually do something for you.


Posted by basilisk on Jan-09-2006 17:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Canadians have actually started to see the liberals for what they are.


What, politicians?


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-09-2006 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Voting for a party in general is wortheless... all of them suck. The best thing one can do, is voter for the best candidate in your riding, someone who can actually do something for you.


Please dont tell me that person is Belinda stronach again or i might barf.


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-09-2006 17:48:

Would a candidate with merely a high-school diploma tought music, with no political experience be a better candidate? Anyone here has better qualifications that Lois Brown... Conservatives put Lois Brown in there as a joke.

Should I vote for such a joke, because of protest vote? No, I just want to vote for the candidate who will do the most in my region, not a backbencher.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-09-2006 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Would a candidate with merely a high-school diploma tought music, with no political experience be a better candidate? Anyone here has better qualifications that Lois Brown... Conservatives put Lois Brown in there as a joke.

Should I vote for such a joke, because of protest vote? No, I just want to vote for the candidate who will do the most in my region, not a backbencher.


I TRUST her much more than Belinda. Belinda double crossed voters here.

Is she a better candidate? I ve heard her debate and i think she is. She seems to speak from the average joe's experience. She doesnt come off as a career politician like belinda does. And thats what i like in an elected official.

if belinda was true to what she says she would have sat as an independent instead of being an opportunist.


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-09-2006 18:21:

It's impossible for Belinda to lose. People aren't stupid, It's the poeple's time to vote, which is like you being the boss, and hiring a candidate. No employer will every hire an inexperienced and uneducated candidate for the same salary, no matter what.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-09-2006 18:25:

No employer would hire a corrupt employee. Period.


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-09-2006 18:33:

an employee that worked for a corrupt employer you mean


Posted by Yohan on Jan-09-2006 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
an employee that worked for a corrupt employer you mean

An employee that may work for a corrupt employer, but also has shown a lack of integrity.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-09-2006 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
an employee that worked for a corrupt employer you mean


a corrupt emplyer? Are you implying that the conservatives are corrupt and the liberals arent?


AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
you have a lot to learn


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-09-2006 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
It's impossible for Belinda to lose. People aren't stupid, It's the poeple's time to vote, which is like you being the boss, and hiring a candidate. No employer will every hire an inexperienced and uneducated candidate for the same salary, no matter what.


If belinda wins its proof that people ARE stupid and will believe anything they are told.

"i switched parties at the most opportune time imaginable, was given a brand new cabinet portfolio made just for me and backstabbed the candidate who was voted by the party in the first place, but i did it for the people!"

sure!!!

as i said i have one word for belinda... independent.

i cant believe people are dumb enough to buy her BS


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-09-2006 19:12:

Either way, people know what's best for them, and their voice will be heard.

Belinda will obviously be re-elected with much bigger majority since the lst time. The Conservative party don't care what happens in Aurora-Newmarket. If they did, they would have had a better candidate to go up against Belinda.


Posted by LKD on Jan-09-2006 19:17:

this morn:

i walk into erindale go station and 2 steps in, this bald guy gives out his hand to me goin "im so and so and im the minister of health" with a bunch of red flyers (red being hte only thing i really noticed), his asst. starts shoving a flyer in my hand, and i just let the flyer fall and go "dude i aint voting for u"

my sister was just behind me, he gives his hand out to her, she goes "Im with him"

his face was priceless


Posted by iLLnaDa on Jan-09-2006 19:26:

same thing at Streetsville Go ...it was Gill from the Conservative party i believe and his assistants standing at the door where u enter literally shoving the pamphlets in ppl's hands like i don't wanna read ur resume I'm not interested!!!


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