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Starting a Club???

My friend and I were a little messed up one day and we decided that we were gonna start a club when i got out of college and he got out of the marines...no we were just f-ing around BUT I started thinking...How hard would it be to actually start a club.....how much (on estimate) would it cost to even think of starting a club....what licenses and other things would i need...and then I thought to my self...is this even realistic?....could any of the TA veterans help me out with some of these questions or fill me in on questions i should of thought but didn't? I mean think about it...owning your own club...oh S***! i didnt even think of a name hahaha...anyways i just thought it be cool to see some of your idea's......

sell your soul first.

Do you have like MINIMUM MINIMUM MINIMUM $750,000 lying around?

it really depends in what area you are.

i know a RICH guy opened a club here in the LA area and closed down before a year. too much headache he said. i think he also said its a 'mafia' business. the big guys can wipe you away so easily unless you are built strong

In order to build and maintain this club, you'll need to hire a series of two hundred stout dwarves, each with a name more outrageous than the last. Unfortunately, I do not think there are enough Lucky Charms in the world to pay off that many Dwarves.

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Originally posted by Munchy Do you have like MINIMUM MINIMUM MINIMUM $750,000 lying around?

Umm ya at Minimum... I can only say here in Atlanta but when we looked at it... ABout 1 million would be needed for a normal small club to open the doors and run with enough capital to last...

With some of the bigger clubs here, (Which are nothing like a SUPER CLUB) Triple that figure and you got yourself a ball park figure... Oh ya, and good luck getting a bank loan for that...

Not to say it can not be done because it is always in the back of my mind but there is alot to overcome...

Oh ya and you gotta think about where you can do it, LA, NYC, and Miami are too controled to move into... Cities close to them would not work because people would just go to those cities... You need to go to Denver, Dallas, Atlanta, ect to find the need and the desire to make it work...

That is just my 2 cents

That's why most clubs have like on average 4 owners... Not many people can front that kind of initial bill plus building up costs...

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Originally posted by Xyzpdq0121 Oh ya and you gotta think about where you can do it, LA, NYC, and Miami are too controled to move into... Cities close to them would not work because people would just go to those cities... You need to go to Denver, Dallas, Atlanta, ect to find the need and the desire to make it work... That is just my 2 cents

denver would be a wise choice. denvers club scene totally lacks, apart from the church which is a banging place, id check it out there.

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Originally posted by eFeKz denver would be a wise choice. denvers club scene totally lacks, apart from the church which is a banging place, id check it out there.

Is the church Catholic?



























oh god that was bad.

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Originally posted by Demoted Is the church Catholic? oh god that was bad.

it's actually an old church downtown that was renovated into a club...




places like Denver have a great crowd, but really only 1-2 real clubs with decent lineups to choose from. it would be a great place to have a club i think...

dude you have to be sooo fucking rich to start a club... usually... clubowners never start as clubowners they start thier own business and expand thier business by starting a club.. so dude ... i dont think its a good idea to start a your business with a club...

if you wana hit....... you hit big or never hit

i know a bunch of clubowners.. all seem to do coke..

so..

buy some coke, and see if its you.

You dont need to start a club...you just start your own night.

You find a venue (i.e. a night club) and use the venue when its availabel to host your night.

You then organise DJ's and the night club should supply you with the barstaff and security and the sound system.

Some will supply you with equipment like decks and CDJs etc but you may have to supply your own...it'll depend on the price your paying for the venue.

You then advertise and promote your night and if its succesful you should have about a dollar left over!!!

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Originally posted by jonny_mac_99 You dont need to start a club...you just start your own night.

maybe, but i still think owning a club would be cooler.. promoters are the sleaze of the earth didnt you know? hahahaha i keed i keed..

If you had a good enough idea for a club, maybe a bank or some rich dude would fund you.

You can't just open an EDM club next to Space and expect to make it.

i have been looking into it and there is really 2 different ways you can go about it. You can either own the building and hence own the club and rent it to promoters, you can just be a promoter and rent a space from a club owner, or you can own your own building and then do all your own promotions.

either the first or second are fairly realistic unless you have a lot of capital and a lot of time to burn.

3 to 4 million for a large club would be realistic. You going to be spending about 1 million on equipment the rest will be for decor and building the club and having money to book good talent and run some promotions to get some buzz goign about your club. Thats the thing about it. If you can generate good buzz an pr for your club then your gold. the hard thing is creating a club that peoople love to come to.

i'd throw some parties first to get known to people...get your own sound & lighting systems...find some cool places to throw them...and then...when everybody knows u...sell your house, car, systems, and your soul to start a new club...so when people see you are the owner they will be hooked to get in...

Depends on what you really wanan do. If you want an actually respected venue is one thing. If you wanna milk a place for all it's worth is a different. Being from brooklyn we have lounges springing up all over the place with DJs and all, that get shot down after only a few months cause they don't ID and sever alchohol to ANYONE untill they are puking drunk (illegal for bartenders to give alchy after a while if you're visibily drunk).

Just buy like, a derelict building out in the section of town that not many people hang around in at night. Get some illegal aliens to renovate the place. Run it as some sort of workshop by day and throw some stealth parties in it on an irregular schedule. Get a huge list of phone contacts and alert everyone by mobile right before the party goes off, or do it the other way around with a voice mail or something ppl can call to figure out whats going on. It would be less corrupt than the club business.

If you were on some sort of coast, you could buy a large boat, gather passengers, get away from anywhere where ppl can enforce, and do whatever the hell you want out at sea, if you already had some sort of nautical skills you might could find a way to do that for less money than a club.

Or you could start some sort of activist group which uses dancing as a form of protest, and then throw parites in broad daylight with angry people carrying signs and party kids dancing along, losta places cant stop protests as easily as they can parties.

Or you could start your own religion, and throw parties in a "church" on sunday mornings, if you are really thourough and make it appear like a serious religion you could get away with all sortsa crazy stuff, without all the drama of licenses and whatnot.

Or start with just a bar, run it for years and years until your neighors go out of business, expand into their place with a dancefloor. Starting a regular bar is probably really cheap, you could still bring in music but without a real dancefloor. Maybe start a restaraunt and at night put all the tables away and bring people in to dance.

I'm sure you could start some sort of party venue yourself if you tried something creative and had some capital. Personaly I think an old drive-in movie theater would be a good place to morph into a party venue.

Really, i think the biggest problem or the biggest concern you would have would be publicity. granted it's expensive to get a building [or worse yet build one from scratch], but you won't break even anywhere +near+ even or gain profit if you don't advertise, don't book big names, or just get the word out about your place to all the people who already have "Their" club that they like going to. what would you do to change those minds? how would you make it better than something they already like. really, all these extra factors i think would be more of a hassle than actually getting a place.

i mean...i could get like 10 rich guys together maybe plan everything out from there.....it might take a couple of years but maybe we could get them to send people out (most likely illegal aliens) for like $3.00 a pop all day to look for people...these aliens would have to look sharp and stuff but they could look for all the hookups for everything i would need...then i could send other people out to look for really good DJ's or people who know really good DJ's so i could book them at my club....then i could build my own club the way i wanted for a small price...have the dj's i wanted and get all of this for free basically because im friends with the rich guys...id be the brains behind everything and they would be paying for it all!....or Maybe we could get enough TA's to get together.....they could start there own club and maybe djs would play for free....but i mean im only thinking of only a little bit of what goes into the club, im not thinking of the 1000's of other things that would need to go into making the club....but i mean if we could just come up with a serious layout of how things would be...what big categories i would need to research...what licences etc, im betting we could at least know what to do if we ever ended up with the money and wanted to do something......and whats all this talk about the mafia...although i wouldnt doubt it....the mafia is in all kinds of things like that....

Call Gandalf. He throws the bitchenest parties.

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Originally posted by Liquid Fusion

If they're putting large sums of money in, they'll want a big say in how its run, set up, and why the hell you of all people (with no business background and no previous experience in nightclub management) is running it. Not to mention, they'll be wanting a return for their money, so if you are not pulling profits pretty quickly to give them reutrns you'll be out quicker than an English batsman.

you gotta get the dumb people...become friends with dumb, rich kids and get them to steal money from there parents....i mean...and i know it sounds f-ed...but if charles manson could get all those people to kill for them, i mean you can find dumb rich people who love muzik and would always dream of being able to be "part" of a club to get money for you to build one..i mean its not likely but if you search hard and long i bet theres at least 10 out of the 6 billion people we have on earth right?

The problem with most clubs is they are unused most of the day and can only make money at night for a few hours, usually only 2 nights, Friday/Saturday. That means they must pack the place and make as much as possible from cover charge and booze sales. That's a tough job to pay all the rent, salaries, heat, power etc from just a few hours of prime-time clubbing each week.

I think the answer could be to use a space such as a restaurant that is suitable for club activity. It can make an income from food sales or other activity during the day. Then on the club nights the main activity such as restaurant is shut down, tables & chairs are moved out of the way, turn on the disco lights, fire up the DJ audio system, and you're into club mode.

Since you don't need to make a lot of profit from the clubbing time, you can reduce the cover charge. I wouldn't reduce the drinks prices too much because that just brings in the boozers who aren't really there for the music.

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