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tell me what you think about this transition

ive been mixing for about four months now and recorded my first set last week. on that set i included this transition. i think it sounds good but not sure if the keys are clashing... tell me what you think please. here is the link


http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=...Q10ZTFXNK5B6TRG

not too bad 4 months in, but the beats werent lined up perfectly. dont worry, that will come with time. make sure you keep all old recordings so you can revisit them in a few months; youll be amazed at how much youve improved.

just watch your levels as well. sounded like the incoming track was a little louder than the outgoing.

It goes in to the dominant (a compatible key, so not a clash ). I can key them exactly if you want.

lol damn and i thought i had the beats lined up pretty well. goes t oshow you that theres always room for improvment. and the reason i ask about the keys is because i have no way of determining the keys of songs. i dont know how to play an instrument and i also dont know what keys are compatible

I liked it Fair play..

nelly

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Originally posted by hiram lol damn and i thought i had the beats lined up pretty well. goes t oshow you that theres always room for improvment. and the reason i ask about the keys is because i have no way of determining the keys of songs. i dont know how to play an instrument and i also dont know what keys are compatible

THe first is in Dflat minor, the second in Aflat minor.

Think of keys as families of musical notes which a tune can belong to. Get hold of a keyboard if you can (or a google a java keyboard), a diagram showing you the note names. If you play the first of your tunes in that wee mix with your piano in front of you, you will find that a Dflat fits the tune better than any other note - this is because it is the tonic, and likewise Aflat with the second tune. Now that you know what the tonic sounds like (basically the note that fits the piece most nicely), play a tune you want to key, then just fiddle around until you find the note that fits the tune best: this will be your tonic! The tonic is the name of the key, then you just need to decide whether it is major or minor (most EDM is minor but not always).

As for compatibility, try this system:


The idea is that you mix tunes that are next to each other on the wheel. e.g. If you are in D-flat minor, mixing in to a tune in Emajor, A-flat minor, or F-sharp minor (or another D-flat, of course!) will sound good.

Hope that helps!

for a second i thought it was the circle of fifth's. then i actually read the chart.

your mix sounded great given the amount of time you have been doing this. if your whole cd sounds like this, then you're doing a lot better than i was @ 4months.

the match wasn't perfect, but it was pretty damn good. also the level of the second track had a little bit too much gain.

just concentrate on making those transitions as smooth as possible, and w/experience it will come. don't settle for good enough, because when it comes to prove yourself, good enough isn't.

keep up the good work.

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Originally posted by sr126 for a second i thought it was the circle of fifth's. then i actually read the chart.

You mean the easimix chart? If you read clockwise, it goes in order of the cycle of 5ths, both on the inner and outer circles.

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Originally posted by hiram lol damn and i thought i had the beats lined up pretty well. goes t oshow you that theres always room for improvment. and the reason i ask about the keys is because i have no way of determining the keys of songs. i dont know how to play an instrument and i also dont know what keys are compatible

Yeah, I'm always amazed at my old mixes from my first few months back in the day...I thought they were perfect at the time, but I listen to them now and they were definitely off. It's kind of interesting actually.

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Originally posted by est You mean the easimix chart? If you read clockwise, it goes in order of the cycle of 5ths, both on the inner and outer circles.

you're right. i confused myself. i had a hardcore brain fart. i saw Emajor at the top, and i was thinking... uuuuhhhhhhhhh... for me on the baritone, the bass guitar, and piano -Emajor has 4#'s, it's not all natural. at the time it didn't occur to me to go around the circle... for some reason it didn't click that Db = C# (the way i learned it) so i got more confused. i just kept scratching my head wondering what instrument this was written for, before i finally dismissed it as some chart that has something do w/harmonic mixing that i just didn't know about...

now that i rotate my head counter clockwise and see Cmajor at the top it makes sense to me now...

i feel dumb.

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Originally posted by sr126 you're right. i confused myself. i had a hardcore brain fart. i saw Emajor at the top, and i was thinking... uuuuhhhhhhhhh... for me on the baritone, the bass guitar, and piano -Emajor has 4#'s, it's not all natural.

You play piano too? You sound pretty musical! Piano I think is the best instrument to learn for anyone wanting to understand all this basic harmony/music theory that so many people go on about here - though any instrument playing would make a huge difference...I play harp a little too.

Beats could have been tidier but tune selection wasn't bad although you had a drop in energy. Not always a bad thing but just thought I would make you aware of it.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by est You play piano too? You sound pretty musical! Piano I think is the best instrument to learn for anyone wanting to understand all this basic harmony/music theory that so many people go on about here - though any instrument playing would make a huge difference...I play harp a little too.

i USED to play. i haven't practiced in a lllooongggggg time... same w/the bass guitar, and the baritone. the funny thing is, that i actually have keyboards, and guitars. i just don't play them anymore. a lot has to do w/the fact that the time i would normally use to play instruments is completely hogged up by dj'ing. i can still throw it down w/a sequencer... but playing live, i don't think so.

case in point. i was messing w/my asr-x pro. i played w/it for about an hour, i took a nap. then threw it in the closet, and i haven't seen it since. this was about a week or two ago.

i flipped on my mpc, listened to a few tracks... messed w/the arrangemtns a little bit. didn't save anything, turned it off, and threw it back in the closet. this was almost 2yrs ago.

when i'm not around an instrument, i think about it incessantly. when i'm at home, it's the last thing i want to do. i guess i'm just not feeling it right now.

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Originally posted by sr126 i USED to play. i haven't practiced in a lllooongggggg time... same w/the bass guitar, and the baritone. the funny thing is, that i actually have keyboards, and guitars. i just don't play them anymore. a lot has to do w/the fact that the time i would normally use to play instruments is completely hogged up by dj'ing. i can still throw it down w/a sequencer... but playing live, i don't think so. case in point. i was messing w/my asr-x pro. i played w/it for about an hour, i took a nap. then threw it in the closet, and i haven't seen it since. this was about a week or two ago. i flipped on my mpc, listened to a few tracks... messed w/the arrangemtns a little bit. didn't save anything, turned it off, and threw it back in the closet. this was almost 2yrs ago. when i'm not around an instrument, i think about it incessantly. when i'm at home, it's the last thing i want to do. i guess i'm just not feeling it right now.

I think it's a real shame how people tend to learn instruments well when theyre younger then, for no particular reason, it all just kind of tails off as we get older...

I know what you mean though - there's no way I have space for a piano, a harp and decks in the room im in just now so it's really difficult to practise.

i think i'm going through a cycle. at least i have stuck w/doing something w/music in one form or another. so atleast the drive is still there, it's just manifesting itself in the form of dj'ing. if i can hook up another job, where i could make enough working part time, or if at my job they would let me work 10hr shifts, and get 3 days off. i would definately push my self to pick up an instrument.

plus space is an issue, but it's not an insurmountable obstacle. TIME is the biggest problem for me. patience too... i'm scared to see how much i suck now. so much that it might break my will.

hiram whats the tunes in this transitionclip of yours? wanna share the set? seems nice

the songs are
TBA-message in a bottle(sander van Doorn remix)-->Alex M.O.R.P.H. presents Everest-Oree(original vocal mix)

PM me for the set, the link i put up prolly isnt working anymore

aside from the notes, i like to make a few other comments.

i personally dont follow keys since i dont read notes, but i still manage to do good.

heres whats good. being a 4 month old dj i think youre definetely on the right track. you have a 'good ear' it seems. track selection is good to be honest so thats a great start.

4 months is still nothing though, so you have alot of things you can work on which is great cause you can improve. first of all, beatmatch was a little off when vocals on SOS ended and it felt like the tempo speed were matching but you werent pitch bending the incoming track.

second, the energy dropped too quick and weird. some might blame this on the second track selected but i dont. i blame it on the 3rd mistake you made which is reallllly important.

third which im amazed noone yet mentioned is the 'beat counting' technique. this isnt actually a technique and you get used to this without even counting. you made the full transitions to the 2nd track at 44 beats. this caused the sets energy to sink and it also messed up the flow. someone can explain this in depth, or u can PM me later on and i tell u later on.

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