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Posted by DOOMBOT on Jan-14-2006 15:04:

Beatmatching using snares or hi-hats

Anyone do this? Yesterday I was mixing in a record (Solar Stone vs Scott Bond - 3rd Earth) and it doesn't have a very pronounced bass. So beatmatching to the track live, with a heavy bass was kind of tough. So I tried to match the hi-hats and I guess you could say it worked somewhat, maybe the tunes just won't mix well no matter what, but anyhow... does anyone here do this? How successful are you with it?


Posted by wee_rooney on Jan-14-2006 15:13:

9 times outa 10 i do it!

but i mix techno & tech house.


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-14-2006 15:14:

Heaps of people here beatmatch this way. Im sure if you searched for it you would find heaps of threads about it but it might be kind of hard to search for it.
Personaly i do whatever suits the track, i also find that it is harder for me to match the hi-hats and snares when using crappy headphones or speakers.


Posted by JLP on Jan-14-2006 15:52:

I think it's easier to mix with snares than with beats.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-14-2006 16:40:

You mean there's another way?


Posted by s3nate on Jan-15-2006 00:37:

If you mix drum and bass sometimes you have to just mix the snares or hi-hats.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-15-2006 01:07:

sometimes I just find the rhythm and match to that. It gets it close enough to match and fix later on. Like if the only time I have to match is during a break down.


Posted by Dj_Es-Dva on Jan-15-2006 06:24:

Snares, kick whichever even without you'll be able to do it with practice.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jan-15-2006 06:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You mean there's another way?


Posted by Clovis on Jan-15-2006 06:36:

I usually match up the cowbell.


Posted by sr126 on Jan-15-2006 08:29:

i usually match via the down beat. i use the high hats and snares as a secondary reference to make sure things are as tight as they are supposed to be. but for some reason, 8 or 9 times out of 10 i will hear drift via the down beat before i hear it anywhere else.


Posted by punjabi on Jan-15-2006 20:39:

matching hats/snares is more accurate IMO


Posted by IntegraR0064 on Jan-16-2006 19:18:

What's up dude? What, like we don't have a good DJ techniques forum on PDS?

Oh, right...we don't.

Yeah, like someone else said, I mix using whatever's distinctive about the track. Usually, it's not the bass beats...it's usually something like high hats or a snare or something. In trance, particularly, the bass drum is not really distinctive usually so I don't usually use that. It's probably due at least in part to the fact that I started out with crappy headphones with no bass response whatsoever too.

But yeah, whatever's distinctive and helps me pick out which track is which is what I use. Usually it's not even a conscious process.


Posted by FiK on Jan-17-2006 11:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
I usually match up the cowbell.


I NEED MORE COWBELL


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-17-2006 11:39:

I was mixing using high-hats and snares and didnt even know it untill i tried mixing breakbeat.


Posted by Clovis on Jan-17-2006 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by FiK
I NEED MORE COWBELL


Tim Deluxe - Roadrunner


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Jan-17-2006 20:23:

it's possible to beatmatch on just about anything, even the notes of a melody if you know what to listen for.

most folk who spin breakbeat/jungle match almost totally on the highhats.

the highs are more transient (of a shorter duration) than bassbeats so you can actually match more accurately on them.

however, without paying attention to the bass phase on a 4/4 track, you'll end up with the subs not pumping like they should... bass hits can easily cancel (phase) eachother out. so it's important to listen to the full swath of the audio spectrum when beatmatching.. the full spectrum is important and you really shouldnt focus on one part of it.

dont worry about how, just practice. the how is all in your ears! do what sounds right, and what works for you...


Posted by anth_on_e on Jan-17-2006 20:34:

That is how i beatmatch. I find it easier to hear the hi's as they are more crisp rather then the lows so i just beatmatch the snares until they are matched.



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