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Posted by Truepioneer on Jan-15-2006 19:49:

Where's all my hard techno lovers???

I'm talkin bout: Sven Wittekind, Amok, Chris Liebing, Andrew Wooden, Robert Natus, Andres Kremer, Christian Wunsch, Oscar Mulero.

Curious to see how many other people like the above???

I'm listening to them all the time


Posted by lacksesepsotygh on Jan-15-2006 20:19:

yeah, i like it. you should get ahold of these tracks:

axel karakasis - g-point
felix kroecher - compression
theo schwarz - liquid cycle
alex bau - percussive fetish
andre walter - misty circles
axel karakasis - madness
andreas kremer - the way of the drum (frank kvitta remix)
lars klein - the trap
eric sneo - distorted radio
eric sneo - don't stop
ignition technician - burn all the liars

tribal hard stuff:

cave - deimos
boriqua tribez - fuego
bastian ahrez - sambo

i'll post more later


Posted by basd on Jan-16-2006 08:21:

I do listen to W�nsch and Mulero for a bit, although I tend to enjoy that type of music mostly when clubbing, it's not really my favourite for home listening (nor is it my neighbor's).

I wouldn't dare put them in the same corner as Amok, Sven Wittekind and the likes though. Their styles are pretty different.

If you like those two, check out some sets by:

Reeko
Takaaki Itoh
British Murder Boys
Rumenige & Loktibrada

And labels like:

Manuke
Tsunami
Counterbalance
Palicavonzvreca
Antidandruff


Posted by Truepioneer on Jan-17-2006 01:51:

Yes agreed, Wittekind and Amok definitely are in a different level of hardness than Wunsch and Mulero are.

I'll def look into those artists/labels both of you posted.

Cheers


Posted by torontotrance on Jan-17-2006 01:52:

British Murder Boys facking own, HAAAAAAAARD techno!


Posted by Truepioneer on Jan-17-2006 02:02:

Oliver Ho and James Ruskin are good suggestions if you like BMB but you might already know that.


Posted by superglo on Jan-17-2006 13:41:

someone forgot to mention O.B.I, Mario Ranieri & PatDSP.


Posted by Ian on Jan-17-2006 14:57:

Chris Liberator & Dave the Drummer (w/ Ant sometimes) make some really good tunes too, not sure if it's entirely what you want though.

A good recent title is "It's not goa but its fucking psychedelic"


Posted by superglo on Jan-17-2006 15:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Chris Liberator & Dave the Drummer (w/ Ant sometimes) make some really good tunes too, not sure if it's entirely what you want though.

A good recent title is "It's not goa but its fucking psychedelic"


isnt that an ant & geezer track ?


Posted by Ian on Jan-17-2006 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by superglo
isnt that an ant & geezer track ?


Ant & DDR - Acid Techno... All The Time / It's Not Goa But It's Fucking Psychedelic

I meant those 3 people in particular, not all together on it

http://www.discogs.com/release/444203 = the tune although anything on the label it's on is usually fun


Posted by basd on Jan-17-2006 18:05:

Some Eastern European hardtechno goodies to be found here..


Posted by Vainqueur on Jan-17-2006 18:23:

Ack, the whole Liebing crew is boooring. Gives me a headache, too.

Surgeon would be the most obvious choice for good harder techno. He plays a bit of everything though; keeps it interesting. Markantonio produces all kinds of techno, too. And from what I've listened to; Jeff Mills' old work (I'm talking UR and Tresor) is edgier than his Axis stuff. Woody McBride I'd guess has some harder stuff too.

Other than that I don't know what to tell ya. Hard, hi-hat hammerin' techno isn't my domain.


Posted by ChoBo on Jan-18-2006 07:37:

I've been listening to stuff by Sandy Warez and Kay D.Smith lately, pounding! Btw i am still quite new to techno but can someone explain what is schranz techno? I dont understand it when the description says its schranz.


Posted by TaylorR on Jan-18-2006 07:59:

*raises hand*

i freakin love techno. it is more my style.


Posted by basd on Jan-18-2006 08:07:

quote:
Originally posted by ChoBo
I've been listening to stuff by Sandy Warez and Kay D.Smith lately, pounding! Btw i am still quite new to techno but can someone explain what is schranz techno? I dont understand it when the description says its schranz.

Schranz is a (not fully correct) synonym for hardtechno stuff produced by the likes of Amok, Wittekind, Marco Remus, Rush, etc. Originally coined by Liebing to describe the stuff he played back in the days, it has been, and still is, misused all over the world.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schranz. I disagree on Beyer, Gayle San, Skoog, Hades and Lekebusch being 'schranz' though.. Beyer has been getting more and more involved in minimal stuff lately, even.


Posted by superglo on Jan-18-2006 09:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Ant & DDR - Acid Techno... All The Time / It's Not Goa But It's Fucking Psychedelic

I meant those 3 people in particular, not all together on it

http://www.discogs.com/release/444203 = the tune although anything on the label it's on is usually fun


you heard dynamo city - one night in hackney ?
now thats a tune !1


Posted by ChoBo on Jan-18-2006 11:53:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
Schranz is a (not fully correct) synonym for hardtechno stuff produced by the likes of Amok, Wittekind, Marco Remus, Rush, etc. Originally coined by Liebing to describe the stuff he played back in the days, it has been, and still is, misused all over the world.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schranz. I disagree on Beyer, Gayle San, Skoog, Hades and Lekebusch being 'schranz' though.. Beyer has been getting more and more involved in minimal stuff lately, even.


Cool thanks for the information! Never knew it could be found in wikipedia!


Posted by basd on Jan-18-2006 19:11:

No problem. The German version of Wikipedia has an even bigger piece of text on it. Problem is most people here probably don't understand German well enough to be able to read it

Ah well, here goes nothing:

quote:
Das Wort Schranz bezeichnet eine Stilrichtung des Techno. Schranz ist eine harte, minimalistische und schnelle (meist zwischen 140 und 160 BPM), vorwiegend mit Ger�uschen und maschinen�hnlichen Kl�ngen angereicherte Tanzmusik und zeichnet sich durch einen streng perkussiven, repetitiven und teilweise beabsichtigt monotonen Charakter aus. Schranz �hnelt dem Tool- und Looptechno und kann als Untergenre des Hardtechnos bezeichnet werden.

Geschichte
Der Begriff wurde urspr�nglich 1994 von dem Gie�ener Produzenten, Radiomoderator und DJ Chris Liebing zusammen mit einem Freund in einem Frankfurter Plattenladen in die Welt gesetzt und als Partymotto auf mehreren Flyern des Frankfurter Technoclubs Omen abgedruckt ("Birthday Schranz") und als Name f�r eine seiner Schallplatten verwendet ("The Real Schranz"). Als der Begriff an Popularit�t zunahm und immer mehr einer Stilrichtung zugeordnet wurde, entschuldigte sich Chris Liebing daf�r, den Begriff in Umlauf gebracht zu haben, da er sich nicht mehr damit identifizieren konnte. Daf�r griffen andere Hardtechno-DJs den Stil auf und sorgten f�r seine Verbreitung.

Heute wird der Begriff Schranz nicht mehr nur in seinem Ursprungsland Deutschland verwendet, sondern beschreibt mehr und mehr auf der ganzen Welt den Klang von hartem deutschen Techno. Von einem Modewort, dass monotonen und perkussion-geladenen Techno verschiedener Richtungen (Monotone-, Progressive Techno) beschreibt, ist Schranz somit ein eigenst�ndiges Genre geworden.

Die h�ufig mit d�steren Kl�ngen best�ckte Musikrichtung ist meist auf Loops von Trommeln, Rasseln oder Fabrikger�uschen gest�tzt, untermalt von harten, treibenden B�ssen (die jedoch nicht im Vordergrund stehen) oder gar durchgehenden Basslines (z.B. die bekannten �S�gezahn�-Synthesizer). Da die Unterschiede in dieser Musik (Ton, Rhythmus oder Effekte) sehr subtil sind, wird Schranz h�ufig als monoton empfunden. Deshalb werden Schranzplatten haupts�chlich in Clubs zum Steigern der Stimmung und der Geschwindigkeit des individuellen Sets verwendet.

Die schnelle Verbreitung von Schranz in der Clubszene trug dazu bei, dass Schranz sehr viele Einfl�sse von anderen Richtungen elektronischer Musik bekam. Oft werden Sets der Richtungen Electro oder House �auf Schranz� gespielt. Das hei�t, der oft monotone Schranz �ffnet sich anderen Gattungen des Techno, was ihn insofern interessanter f�r ein gr��eres Publikum macht. DJs machen sich z.B. Melodien oder Passagen aus bekannten Songs und Tracks zu Nutze, um daraus Remixe zu erstellen, die einen Wiedererkennungswert besitzen.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schranz


They're even mentioning Monika Kruse as being a schranz (i.e., hardtechno) artist. It gets better and better


Posted by Ian on Jan-18-2006 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
No problem. The German version of Wikipedia has an even bigger piece of text on it. Problem is most people here probably don't understand German well enough to be able to read it

Ah well, here goes nothing:



They're even mentioning Monika Kruse as being a schranz (i.e., hardtechno) artist. It gets better and better


heh I understood nearly all of it I don't write or speak german well these days but am still good at reading & understanding


Posted by basd on Jan-18-2006 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
heh I understood nearly all of it I don't write or speak german well these days but am still good at reading & understanding

Being Dutch is a big advantage as well, as the two languages are fairly similar in some ways... Plus I do have to speak a lot of German during work hours, it helps


Posted by Ian on Jan-18-2006 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
Being Dutch is a big advantage as well, as the two languages are fairly similar in some ways... Plus I do have to speak a lot of German during work hours, it helps


heh our german teacher once gave us a dutch lesson & I have to say I did find the 2 very similar, esp like Ik/ich & the numbers


Posted by sandstorm03 on Jan-18-2006 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
heh our german teacher once gave us a dutch lesson & I have to say I did find the 2 very similar, esp like Ik/ich & the numbers


sie habben Krabben


Posted by sleepydragon on Jan-18-2006 23:37:

im gonna add this thread to my favourites ill check out the tracks later i like me techno


Posted by jejune on Jan-19-2006 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by superglo
you heard dynamo city - one night in hackney ?
now thats a tune !1

My god yes. That song is so fucking awesome and the lyrics are kickass.


Posted by jejune on Jan-19-2006 05:19:

You can grab some recorded sets here of some nice hard acid techno. Click on music on the left side.


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