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traktor w/ external turntables?

hey guys...i was wondering if it's possible to set up traktor with 2 external turntables? and be able to control them with the computer????

thanx

You want to control mp3 files with your turntables? You can get the final scratch or serato scratch live setup. GOogle it and you will find lots of info

no. i want to know if i can set up 2 turntables and use traktor as my mixer? not with final scrathe or seratto...am i making sense? sorry its fucking early...so basically...i just want to control the audio from my turntable with traktor...i dunno if this is possible...???

Google for "DJ Decks", its a system just like Final Scratch, only cheaper.

or if you want to use traktor as a mixer, you can put your TT's into two different line-in channels of your soundcard.

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Originally posted by Joost Google for "DJ Decks", its a system just like Final Scratch, only cheaper. or if you want to use traktor as a mixer, you can put your TT's into two different line-in channels of your soundcard.

excellent thanx a bunch for helping me out man. one more question......i have a powerbook, what audio interface should i get if i want to use traktor as my mixer with 2 turntables? thanxxx in advance

well if you want to build an interface that can do that. i think you might be able to do it but i dont really see the need dude. like i know what you mean but honestly i just get over how you would want to use you computer as a mixer. like maybe it maybe beneficial in live send and return fx but there nothing else i can think of also maybe use midi controller with asignable nobs to make it interactive. also the inputs for turntables need to go through a sound card interface.

well atleast your thinking of new ways, tell me if there is anything like this. but it is a very possible idea.

only reason why i would use traktor is to play digital files, not use the turntable audio input into a virtual mixer.

dude im not sure if you are able to assign these audio inputs (need most likely 2 sound cards) into traktor but there is deffinatly something to do with that in traktor in settings cause it has stuff to do with inputs channels (shows name of sound card), but the question is can you assign audio inputs to cross fade and all of that.

i will have a look myself just for the curiosity, only reason im thinking of at the moment is designing a vst fx return and send fx back into the mixer.

man you got me thinking dude, but i sure traktor only allows its digital decks?

cheers tell me how you go

cheers

you can't plug TTs into a line in
they need a pre-amp, you won't be able to hear much

and traktor will only mix with the 2 sources it has, i don't remember if there was the option to mix with an external source

your best bet is to get TTs with an external mixer and to hook your laptop into the mixer, you can disable the internal traktor mixer and have the 2 sources run to different channels

This might be a little off topic, but can anyone recommend an external soundcard for laptop that will be compatible with the 2 channel mixing option in Traktor? As in, one would be able to plug in monitor headphones and mix like they would with turntables.

Thanx!

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Originally posted by mzvirbulis well if you want to build an interface that can do that. i think you might be able to do it but i dont really see the need dude. like i know what you mean but honestly i just get over how you would want to use you computer as a mixer. like maybe it maybe beneficial in live send and return fx but there nothing else i can think of also maybe use midi controller with asignable nobs to make it interactive. also the inputs for turntables need to go through a sound card interface. well atleast your thinking of new ways, tell me if there is anything like this. but it is a very possible idea. only reason why i would use traktor is to play digital files, not use the turntable audio input into a virtual mixer. dude im not sure if you are able to assign these audio inputs (need most likely 2 sound cards) into traktor but there is deffinatly something to do with that in traktor in settings cause it has stuff to do with inputs channels (shows name of sound card), but the question is can you assign audio inputs to cross fade and all of that. i will have a look myself just for the curiosity, only reason im thinking of at the moment is designing a vst fx return and send fx back into the mixer. man you got me thinking dude, but i sure traktor only allows its digital decks? cheers tell me how you go cheers

well the reason i want to use traktor as my mixer is because i have a brand new powerbook (graduation present) and i don't really use it at all. i don't want to be an 'mp3 dj' so i was just curious if i can use tt's with traktor/vinyl...i work down the street from native instruments, i'm literally gonna walk in there one of these days with my laptop and tell them 'make it happen'

let me know if you figure out how to do this man, thanx a lot!!!

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Originally posted by Tony Morello you can't plug TTs into a line in they need a pre-amp, you won't be able to hear much and traktor will only mix with the 2 sources it has, i don't remember if there was the option to mix with an external source your best bet is to get TTs with an external mixer and to hook your laptop into the mixer, you can disable the internal traktor mixer and have the 2 sources run to different channels

then what would be the point of hooking up my laptop to the mixer if i'm not gonna be using the laptop?

If you dont have the turntables yet buy midicontrollers, an external mixer and ableton and you will have alot more you fun in the long run.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy If you dont have the turntables yet buy midicontrollers, an external mixer and ableton and you will have alot more you fun in the long run.

i got the tt's. i got the vinyl. i don't have a mixer but i have a laptop. i don't wanna get into live just yet, i reallllly wanna stick with pure vinyl...anyways...i think it is possible...check this out...

2. "Classic" DJ Setup/Club Setup:
For live performances in clubs, and use in the professional studio.
You need: Laptop or desktop computer, multi-channel soundcard, external hardware DJ mixer.

In principle this configuration is just like a classic turntable setup: in the TRAKTOR audio setup dialog window click the "external"-button (the internal DJ mixer will disappear from the screen). Run the two to four TRAKTOR decks out individually through the stereo outputs of the soundcard and into the line inputs of the DJ mixer, just like turntables. Crossfading, EQ and monitoring are done on the DJ mixer, track selection and playback, looping, cueing, filtering on TRAKTOR.




You can also add TRAKTOR to a classic turntable setup, to use both TRAKTOR and vinyl. For this the hardware DJ mixer must have stereo line inputs in addition to the phono inputs.

so IN THEORY...i think i can use traktor to mix vinyl...am i crazy?

I realy dont undertand you.
Its saying you can use an external mixer (a real dj mixer) to mix the mp3s from the computer.
You can mix the turntbales together using the laptop but it realy is not worth it. You need to buy phono preamps and external soundcards and a program to mix the inputs and eq them.

sounds like a neat idea..

Id could go for this, but it would be anightmare to set up at a club everytime.. fs2 is bad enough..

Im SURE its possible.. Id check out some digital soundboard type things.. while it may not be practical with traktor, im sure there is an app which could do it.

apparently it IS possible...got this from the hercules website...

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19. Can I connect a vinyl turntable to Hercules DJ Console to mix my vinyl records? [ top ]

With the bundled software, you cannot mix an analog source on the DJ Console in real time. In order to work with music from vinyl records, you must first digitize the music on your PC before you can mix it on your DJ Console. You cannot simply connect a turntable directly to your DJ Console�s Line input to digitize vinyl records on your PC, since the audio output on turntables is too low (phono level instead of line level) to be captured properly. To digitize your records, you must either:

Connect your turntable to your amplifier, connect the amplifier�s headphone output to the DJ Console�s Line input, and then record your vinyl onto your PC.
If you need a more compact solution, you can use a pocket-sized phono preamplifier to connect your turntable to your DJ Console:
Cheap solutions, below �50, can be purchased from manufactures such as Hama.
Higher-end solutions, below �100, as ProJect Phono Box or NAD PP-2.
Once your vinyl music has been digitized on your PC, you can then use the audio files with all your music software.


To mix in real time with an analog vinyl turntable, you will need the Pro version of Virtual DJ (not bundled with the DJ Console) to synchronize DJ Console file playback with the Line input (via a phono preamp): the vinyl turntable will not be recorded on the DJ Console, which will simply analyze its BPM to synchronize DJ Console virtual mixing with the analog turntable.

i know what you're trying to do

re-read my last post and i'll try explain a little clearer

it's possible to hook your TTs into your laptop to use your laptop as a mixer
but first you have to get an outboard soundcard that has 2 phono preamps (and you'll most likely need the soundcard to have multitrack capabilities so you're not trying to send 2 stereo channels of info into 1 input), then get mixer software that can handle processing the audio realtime (you'll more than likely have latency issues)
traktor won't cut it, you can't select an external source (like a TT or CDJ) to mix in with your MP3s

so it's possible, just not plausable

so like i said in my first post, get TTs with an external dj mixer then you can disable the internal traktor mixer and have the traktor decks hooked into your dj mixer on line inputs

your laptop should be used as an audio source or recorder

the way you want to go about it is essentially backwards and will do nothing but frustrate you if you somehow manage to get it working

i mix using both hands almost all the time, unless you have a dual mouse setup there's no way a software mixer will perform anywhere near an external mixer

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Originally posted by Tony Morello i mix using both hands almost all the time, unless you have a dual mouse setup there's no way a software mixer will perform anywhere near an external mixer

I found tracktor frustrating for that reason but I can mix better on tracktor than on turntables. I binded a load of keys on my keyboard to functions within traktor. Sorta dedicated one side of the keyboard to A deck, the other side for B and the keypad for the mixer. It kinda works but not very good when you wanna flick the eq's/faders

At the moment I use my laptop with tracktor to play mp3's through my mixer. Still use a keyboard and the same key config. Works fine for me and seems responsive and its one reason ive not bothered to buy a cdj just yet...

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Originally posted by Tony Morello i know what you're trying to do re-read my last post and i'll try explain a little clearer it's possible to hook your TTs into your laptop to use your laptop as a mixer but first you have to get an outboard soundcard that has 2 phono preamps (and you'll most likely need the soundcard to have multitrack capabilities so you're not trying to send 2 stereo channels of info into 1 input), then get mixer software that can handle processing the audio realtime (you'll more than likely have latency issues) traktor won't cut it, you can't select an external source (like a TT or CDJ) to mix in with your MP3s so it's possible, just not plausable so like i said in my first post, get TTs with an external dj mixer then you can disable the internal traktor mixer and have the traktor decks hooked into your dj mixer on line inputs your laptop should be used as an audio source or recorder the way you want to go about it is essentially backwards and will do nothing but frustrate you if you somehow manage to get it working i mix using both hands almost all the time, unless you have a dual mouse setup there's no way a software mixer will perform anywhere near an external mixer

i understand...haha thanks dood for schooling me on the subject. i still wanna try it out cus i have a shitload of vinyl and a brand new powerbook that i never use. i dont wanna be a computer dj so i just thought it was a cool idea. ill keep ya posted dood

if you don't use it then sell it and pick up some decks and mixer
problem solved

If your going to buy those preamps and soundcards and all the crap you need to do this it shure is a big waist of money that like tony has been saying will only cause you headaches and stress.

word. i just thought it would be a cool idea...im gonna try to do it just for the fuck of it though...


on another traktor topic...what audio interface would you guys reccomend???? i have a 12" powerbook g4...

ive seen preamps for like �20. Wont cost much to try..

Its already been said what will happen though

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