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Posted by Pinokio on Jan-16-2006 22:29:

Normal Cd-r (Cheap) or Music Cd-r (Expensive)

I want to know if there's much difference between the normal Cd-rs, and the specially made for audio recording (Music Cd-r).


I want to know if they are really better.

If they are really worht the extra money


Thank You.


Posted by Orbital32 on Jan-17-2006 00:08:

music cd-r= you pay the RIAA


Posted by alefort on Jan-17-2006 01:08:

In my experience, 10 cent CD-Rs are as good as 1$ CD-Rs...........


Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-17-2006 01:59:

Sony Cdrs ftw.

I wont buy the cheap ones anymore.. they die quicker.


Posted by anth_on_e on Jan-17-2006 03:17:

die?


Posted by skip on Jan-17-2006 05:35:

some of the cheapest cd-rs i've used can't really hold their cue points that well. i've never bought the audio ones though and have no idea why they're so expensive. now i always go for some blank white ones, which aren't the cheapest ones, but not the most expensive ones either. before that i used to use TDK and never ever had any problems with them. if the packaging has "GRADE AAA+" on it, then it's probably good (from my experience at least).


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Jan-17-2006 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by anth_on_e
die?

Yes die. Would you believe that most blank disks expensive or not last five years max? Here's an article about that:

http://computerworld.com/hardwareto...,107607,00.html

Edit: After more research it turns out my above statements are false. Cd's can last 25-100 years if taken well care of. Sorry on my behalf.


Posted by Rikki on Jan-17-2006 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Yes die. Would you believe that most blank disks expensive or not last five years max? Here's an article about that:

http://computerworld.com/hardwareto...,107607,00.html


Tell that to the cheap CD-R's (double speed) that Ive got sitting here that still work fine!

R.


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-17-2006 12:10:

Is it just me or do burnable DVDs die very very quickly.
I had one in my drive from wen i burn it. It didnt leave the drive and when i put it in it was soptles! It stopped working the next day!


Posted by Rikki on Jan-17-2006 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Is it just me or do burnable DVDs die very very quickly.
I had one in my drive from wen i burn it. It didnt leave the drive and when i put it in it was soptles! It stopped working the next day!


Depends on how u store them mate, Ive got cheap Princo 4x discs from 2003 that work perfectly.

R.


Posted by IntegraR0064 on Jan-17-2006 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Yes die. Would you believe that most blank disks expensive or not last five years max? Here's an article about that:

http://computerworld.com/hardwareto...,107607,00.html


I don't really believe that...

I have a bunch of CD-Rs from around 1998 or 1999 or so that work perfectly.


Posted by IntegraR0064 on Jan-17-2006 17:34:

To answer the posted question, I actually find that the audio cd-rs work WORSE. I believe they're made for the stereo equipment cd-burners...or something, I'm not sure, but I've gotten two 50 packs of them and as a rule, they're worse. I'd get the non-audio ones.


Posted by Rikki on Jan-17-2006 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Yes die. Would you believe that most blank disks expensive or not last five years max? Here's an article about that:

http://computerworld.com/hardwareto...,107607,00.html


Read:

http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/1552

Then look at users comments.

R.


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Jan-17-2006 19:27:

This was strange to me as well because my cd-r's also stood the test of time, but I just thought I was lucky that my cd's lasted over 5 years. But actually you guys are right and I was wrong. I did a little more research and to my big relief cd-r's actually last longer than I anticipated. A study done by the National Institute of Standards and Technology of the U.S. government have performed extensive tests on lots of recording media such as dvd-r, dvd+r, dvd-dl, dvd-rw, dvd-ram, cd-rom, etc. It turns out "among the manufacturers that have done testing, there is consensus that, under recommended storage conditions, CD-R, DVD-R, and DVD+R discs should have a life expectancy of 100 to 200 years or more; CD-RW, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, and DVD-RAM discs should have a life expectancy of 25 years or more. Little information is available for CD-ROM and DVD-ROM discs (including audio and video), resulting in an increased level of uncertainty for their life expectancy. Expectations vary from 20 to 100 years for these discs (NIST, page 20)" I have edited my earlier post and cleared up any trouble on my part.

Source:http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/care...ndlingGuide.pdf


Posted by Rikki on Jan-17-2006 20:02:

...apart from CD-R's used in a club on a CDJ which can last mere hours before someone spills drink on it...


Posted by anth_on_e on Jan-17-2006 20:39:

I buy ridata 100 packs of cdrs and i think 2 of them have "died" on me. They worked however for some reason whenever i put them in my cdjs, it reads all the data like title and time and whatnot but no music. The track mapper or w/e on my mk2s also shows that there are volume changes, just a flat low line. Don't know if its because they died or not?


Posted by D-res on Jan-17-2006 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808

Edit: After more research it turns out my above statements are false. Cd's can last 25-100 years if taken well care of. Sorry on my behalf.


and they know this because cd's have been around that long to test


Posted by Pinokio on Jan-17-2006 22:00:

So the conclusion is go for the normal Cd-r (Cheaper), beacuse the Music Cd-r (Expensive), it's not better in quality or anything, just the same, or probably worse as someone mentioned here.


Maybe the music Cd-r it's just a marketing tool to make extra money.


Posted by Rikki on Jan-17-2006 22:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Pinokio
So the conclusion is go for the normal Cd-r (Cheaper), beacuse the Music Cd-r (Expensive), it's not better in quality or anything, just the same, or probably worse as someone mentioned here.


Maybe the music Cd-r it's just a marketing tool to make extra money.


Yes.

Go for branded stuff like TDK, Imation and such like


Posted by Vero on Jan-17-2006 23:07:

i use microboards CD-Rs. i have found them to be the best quality so far. if you wanna check the "quality" of a CD-R, hold it up to a bright light. the more transparent it is, the worse the quality is. another thing i like about the microboards is that they have no writing on the tops at all, so brandname or 700mb, nothing. completely blank.


Posted by sot on Jan-17-2006 23:24:

memorex black cd-rs FTW

no problems at al lwith these..they supposely last longer then reg cd's and are more durable. not too sure where i heard it, but i did hear it somewhere


Posted by Pinokio on Jan-18-2006 00:17:

quote:
Originally posted by sot
memorex black cd-rs FTW

no problems at al lwith these..they supposely last longer then reg cd's and are more durable. not too sure where i heard it, but i did hear it somewhere


for my own experience I love memorex, simply vbecause I had a cd, it was filled with dust, scratched, and after 4 years it still sounded good.

I can not get the BLack, beacuse they are not avoiable over here, but the normal memorex should be good also I guess.


Posted by Orbital32 on Jan-18-2006 00:31:

i'm not kidding. music cd-r, rolayites are paid.


Posted by Pinokio on Jan-18-2006 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
i'm not kidding. music cd-r, rolayites are paid.


Royalties to who?

they don't know what I'm going to burn.


Posted by skip on Jan-18-2006 17:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
i'm not kidding. music cd-r, rolayites are paid.



in finland royalties are paid from every fucking cd-r and anything where you can store music, even harddrives and flash memories, so that's not the case in finland at least with the audio cd-rs!


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