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playing at home vs. playing on a loud sound system

might sound like a silly question, but whats the difference. How much does the louder music affect your ability to beatmatch

well if you are using a monitor in the booth with you its essential you turn it up loud because if you dont, you will hear the sound from the other speakers in the club which will throw you off something shocking because of the delay.

i can only speak from personal experience but any monitor setup i have used - the sound coming out doesnt have much in the way of bass compared to the club system but that is actually better for the DJ as you can match the beats more accurately.

it shouldn't affect you too much - it might take you a few mixes to get used to the difference but other than that you shouldnt have any probs

The worst is when you can feel the bass delay from the floor on your feet, but you're trying to match off the monitor. It isn't that big of a deal though.

ok dumb question. how much is the delay, and why is there so much delay?

but the delay is actually good for the dj since he can listen to it earlier on the monitor and fix the mistake early as possible. is that why theres delay?

Volume

there is a delay because no speakers are facing you in the booth. the sound has to bounce off a wall and back to you in the booth before you hear it while the monitor is right in front of you so the sound reaches you right away.

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I love playing clubs, i get so much more energy from the speakers, ive played with monitors, and without, some may take a couple mixes for u to adjust to the delay, but ull live!

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Originally posted by stefanoc but the delay is actually good for the dj since he can listen to it earlier on the monitor and fix the mistake early as possible. is that why theres delay?

no! the delay means you hear it after the crowd does.

set up a loud system at home, then it's all the same

oh wow. then that could be a bit disturbing.

if u have the monitors loud enough u wouldnt hear the speakers would they? or would they bother you?

plus does the DJ have separate volume control for the monitors and the sound system or the dj is only capable of controlling the monitors volume?

the whole idea of monitors is to overpower the main speakers, especially in the all important areas of midrange and highhats.

depends on how the sound rig is set up, but generally there is a main and a booth volume control, as usually monitors are driven by the mixer's booth monitor output.

just play both tracks in your headphones, no one ear out one ear in. works fine for me. although it all depends on each dj.

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Originally posted by djsphere just play both tracks in your headphones, no one ear out one ear in. works fine for me. although it all depends on each dj.

That works for me too.

Another 'problem' could be that the eq's might respond a little different. Since the bigger speakers in a club can (and will!) produce lower frequencies in comparison to your home-system, the 'Low'-eq can respond a little 'faster' than you expected, but you'll get used to that in no-time.

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Originally posted by djsphere just play both tracks in your headphones, no one ear out one ear in. works fine for me. although it all depends on each dj.

thats not always possible as some of the higher end mixers (Urei, rane) don't let you cue more than one channel at a time.

To me the biggest difficutly comes with the delay. That can really throw you off a bit and definitely takes some time to get used to.

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Originally posted by zizack thats not always possible as some of the higher end mixers (Urei, rane) don't let you cue more than one channel at a time. To me the biggest difficutly comes with the delay. That can really throw you off a bit and definitely takes some time to get used to.

so on the pioneer mixers can you listen to two tracks in your headphones at once?

Yes on pioneer's mixer you can listen the cue chanels in your phones

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Originally posted by Scolomon so on the pioneer mixers can you listen to two tracks in your headphones at once?

Why wouldn't they have a split cue? It makes mixing so much easier.

Ok really its because I dont know how to mix with the one ear on and off thing..

i do beatmatch in both headphones anyway, so thats not a problem

Yeah safest way is to just mix in your cans. I tend to do a combination of in headphones and one ear on/one ear off depending on how the system sounds. But remember if you are just mixing in your headphones to take them off from time to time to make sure there's still sound coming out and nothing's gone wrong!

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Originally posted by s3nate Why wouldn't they have a split cue?

right? seriously, you'd think that "high end" mixers would have such a basic function as split cue

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue right? seriously, you'd think that "high end" mixers would have such a basic function as split cue

I would argue the other way....that you would think People would learn such basic funtions as learning to mix without it.

Have worked with a reasonably large producer/dj who struggled on a rane in front of 1000+ people because he had not mixed on anything without split cue before. Caught me out before when I hadnt used single cueing for years

split cue - one channel in each ear..

no split cue - both channels in both ears...

correct???

This again?

Split cue - One channel in each ear.
No Split Cue - One channel in both ears, so you use one ear to listen to the monitors and one in the phones.

I don't know about mixing in the cans when playing out... I tried it and I couldn't hear both tracks clearly because it was loud. That was on a xone 92.

If you watch the big names in the big clubs, they always mix one ear on one ear off. None of this split cue thing. And yes, there are many great and expensive mixers out there that only allow you to cue on channel at a time. Why? Because DJ's don't need it.

It's harder to learn and get accurate (and I'm still learning myself), but you'll be much better off in the long run.

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Originally posted by moondog split cue - one channel in each ear.. no split cue - both channels in both ears... correct???

cheers

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