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the official 'recording sucks' thread.

why? WHYYYY?

no matter how hard i try, recording seems to fuck me up. always. i never seem to be able to record a damn session in one go.

whereas, i can spin for hours and hours and not screw up. but as soon as that recorder is on, i'm wrecking like a train on a mission. and it's not that i spin and then listen to the recording and think it's shit, no, i can actually hear the fuck ups while i am making them, rendering it useless to go on, since i already know i fucked up.

i've actually PITCHED MY RECORDS AND TESTED THEM, both faders open, for over 2 minutes, and not anything anywhere near drift. i click that recorder on, and magically, the records seem to have travelled miles and miles away from eachother. i mean, wtf.

i've been able to record 2 successful sessions in my life. the first was the only time i've recorded successfully in one go. it was for a DJ competition, deadline was noon, monday, and i had gone to a friend's house on sunday, to chill, and remembered. luckily, i had my tracks with me, so i recorded on his setup. was a bit rusty, but after a 30min practice session, i turned on the recorder and did a nice 40min set (that was what they specified).

funnily enough, whenever i have friends over and they want to record a versus set, that i can do fine. theres one floating around the web where i spun with a good (and somewhat known locally) friend of mine. he did the first hour, perfectly, i got on at about 55mins in, and when i gave back control to him, i had spun impeccably. he was the one who made mistakes on his 2nd heat.

so i don't get it. is it a mental thing? (i'm pretty sure it is) am i putting too much pressure on myself? i just want my recordings to reflect the sound i know i can, and have, made many many times.

I fuck up my mixes quite a bit to when I turn on the recorder. It must be a mind state or something. Because no one else but me is going to listen to it again. I keep thinking that my mixing is ok, then I go relisten to it and it sounds like utter crap. Basslines clash, melodies clash blah blah... I need to learn harmonic mixing.

I've heard from this problem before, from various people.

A solution that did work for a good amount of them is to record every single set (even when only consisting of three of four records) to get over this. It should eventually get better.

For me personally, it's not always possible to record, leaving me with the same syndrom

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Originally posted by basd I've heard from this problem before, from various people. A solution that did work for a good amount of them is to record every single set (even when only consisting of three of four records) to get over this. It should eventually get better. For me personally, it's not always possible to record, leaving me with the same syndrom

Im lucky, with fs2 recording is so simple i do it everytime without fail. i just click record and its already all hooked up and everything, really helped me get past it.

Now that im past it, its no big deal anywhere.

Maybe try a couple beers before ur next recording.

Same thing happens to me. Ill just be messing around and it seems like Im playing an awesome set, so Ill try to do the same thing again and record it and I suck balls.

It also seems like I record my best sets when its completely impromtu and not planned at all. Like if I try to have a playlist and have everything planned it wont go as smoothly as it will if I just pick random songs.

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Originally posted by Protege Same thing happens to me. Ill just be messing around and it seems like Im playing an awesome set, so Ill try to do the same thing again and record it and I suck balls. It also seems like I record my best sets when its completely impromtu and not planned at all. Like if I try to have a playlist and have everything planned it wont go as smoothly as it will if I just pick random songs.

same lol..

....Another one of my probs is I can practice mix a few tracks sweet, load up soundforge, start recording and a couple of tracks later I'll screw up. Its always 30 minutes!!! annoying as hell!!! Been trying to record an hour demo cd to give to a promoter for at least 4 months now!

You must all suck big ones coz everytime I record myself you could swear its Sasha on the decks!





































j/k

Best bet is to always record everything. Diskspace doesnt cost anything these days so just go for it, dont plan ahead or anything.

R.

wow... i thought i was the only one... it is not so much the beatmatching that bugs me, but in some instances where the eqing gets tricky... it tends to not be perfect enough for my taste, and i want my recorded sets to be perfect, due to the fact that i have been granted the time to plan this out etc... it better be good.... right?... damn right!

I love when i am mixing a set and it sounds so perfect and then when i press the play button to here what i have recorded it sounds awful. Then when i go and play live i have no problems whats so ever and djs telling me my mixing is really good

I am gonna start bringing a recorder with me whenever i play out.

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Originally posted by spdandpwr I love when i am mixing a set and it sounds so perfect and then when i press the play button to here what i have recorded it sounds awful. Then when i go and play live i have no problems whats so ever and djs telling me my mixing is really good I am gonna start bringing a recorder with me whenever i play out.

Club systems are much more forgiving than house setups usually, gotta keep that in mind.

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Originally posted by alefort Club systems are much more forgiving than house setups usually, gotta keep that in mind.

Although a crowed is not as forgiving during a big fkup as your bedroom room

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Originally posted by basd I've heard from this problem before, from various people. A solution that did work for a good amount of them is to record every single set (even when only consisting of three of four records) to get over this. It should eventually get better. For me personally, it's not always possible to record, leaving me with the same syndrom

yea

record every time you step up to the decks

1. you can critique yourself all the time which will help
2. you'll get used to the feeling knowing that you're recording
3. if you come up with something spectacular, you have proof

if recording isn't an option, make it an option
go buy a minidisc recorder or something, a tapedeck will even work, as long as you're recording

Bah! Same thing here.

In-fact there were times when I didn't plan my set, mixed a pretty good one, ended up listening to it and it sounded GREAT. So what happened? It got deleted and I tried to mix the same track list again, but when playback time came up, I felt like tearing all the knobs out of my mixer.

I can rarely mix a 1 hour set PERFECTLY (to my taste) and the rare time I do, it somehow gets lost!

Further to my "I am Sasha" post earlier I have the problem that mixing at home to me is pretty boring most of the time whereas in a club its exciting so I invest a lot more into it.

Its also true that a nightclub is very forgiving. Loads of echos, reverb and suchlike cover a multitude of sins.

There is always the option of computer correction tho. If your doing a mix and its all going well then there is a big fuck up just lift the needle on the playing track and skip it back a bit to before you brought the next tune in and try again. Later just edit the WAV in your editor so the error is gone.

Technically I suppose its cheating but its an option.

Rs

although the 'big soundsystems cover you up' theory is right, one of my first gigs ever, a dude tells me 'btw, can i record it?' i said yeah, but was secretly pissing my pants. i nailed it pretty good.

yet at home, i am teh suck. :/

dont worry bro, i had this problem for a while. i (as others have suggested) now record everytime i hop on my decks. after a while you get over the nervousness of recording and its all just natural again.

the same blah blah....
but i say - start moving to the beats
forget you'r being recorded
listen to the Dec liveset by Yves Deruyter so you know what a trainwreck is

I just tell my younger brother to record everything but not tell me.


So when I jump on the decks he does it and I dont even remember it.

the shitty thing about it is:

- my PC sucks.
- i'm a broke mother****** with enough money barely for the gear he just bought.
- my diskspace is nearly 100% full.

so, to record, given the suckage of my computer, i must shut down every single program, only to start recording, and have my recorder freeze. it, even tho freezed, still records. however, when i am done, i cant make it stop, so it goes on recording silence. instead of hitting a button, i have to manually terminate the process in the windows task manager. this normally results ina good minute of silence at the end of every set i record, which i then have to cut out.

add to that, that i have to be constantly deleting shit to make space for sets. it's just such a bunch of crap, not like i can just click it on everytime i say 'shit, let me throw down a couple tracks'.

meh. this sucks. hopefully, i'll get a new PC soon...

and by the way, when i say sucky, i mean:
400MHz Intel Celeron Processor
Total 52GB Disk Space (spread over 3 discs, one 40GB, one 10GB, one 2GB, i had to unplug my CD drive to plug in the another extra hard drive for more space)

btw, any recommendations on a good, not very process intensive recorder?

recording does suck. i still get the jitters when i try to record stuff.

the main reason why recording sucks, especially today...

earlier this afternoon i put a dat into my recorder. i was hoping to make a recording something tonite. but as fate would have it... my recorder ate it up. now i have to take the recorder apart, to get the dat out, because won't eject on it's own. i guess i'll try another tape on the 2nd dat machine.

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Originally posted by Inertia the shitty thing about it is: - my PC sucks. - i'm a broke mother****** with enough money barely for the gear he just bought. - my diskspace is nearly 100% full. so, to record, given the suckage of my computer, i must shut down every single program, only to start recording, and have my recorder freeze. it, even tho freezed, still records. however, when i am done, i cant make it stop, so it goes on recording silence. instead of hitting a button, i have to manually terminate the process in the windows task manager. this normally results ina good minute of silence at the end of every set i record, which i then have to cut out. add to that, that i have to be constantly deleting shit to make space for sets. it's just such a bunch of crap, not like i can just click it on everytime i say 'shit, let me throw down a couple tracks'. meh. this sucks. hopefully, i'll get a new PC soon... and by the way, when i say sucky, i mean: 400MHz Intel Celeron Processor Total 52GB Disk Space (spread over 3 discs, one 40GB, one 10GB, one 2GB, i had to unplug my CD drive to plug in the another extra hard drive for more space)

dude i totally feel you. ive only been able to record one mix on my computer at home because of my computer sucking ass. i had to delete a ton of old live sets from ferry/armin/tiesto/sasha/oakenfold just so i could record. i laughed hysterically reading your post because i too have to close down every single program on my computer so i could make an attempt to record. hahaa.

i record every radio show i do...in the month of december i had 4 shows a week, which equates to atleast 10 hours of programming. I had so much airtime because most of the programmers went home for the holidays. as i said, i recorded every show and i skimmed through each mix in my car whenever i drove and i would make mental notes about what tracks sounded good together and overall what i could do better to become a better dj. i dont even pay attention to the fact that i am recording anymore. i have like 100 CD-R's in my car from all the radio shows ive done.

Yeah I hate it when I listen to my recorded set..every 0.0001 bpm difference in the beats, when I'm usin the eq it sounds way to rough and more of that shit...
I just think by myself the audience notices thinks like that less than you so.. if they like it than who gives a shit

lol this is very true, i mix 10 times better just screwing around than recording.

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