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Vocal eqing and other stuff

Can anyone help me out with advice on mastering or at least making my vox less gay, im just running a sample of me through my song once and i havent been able to get it sounding right.

Can anyone maybe suggest a good progam to edit it as well?

Re: Vocal eqing and other stuff

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Originally posted by Dj_Es-Dva Can anyone help me out with advice on mastering or at least making my vox less gay, im just running a sample of me through my song once and i havent been able to get it sounding right.

That's a bit vague.

If your vocals are gay, you might want to consider an intervention with them. Sometimes vocals get to a point in their life when they're confused and have identity issues. Sometimes it's just a phase, so don't worry, but it's important to respect the decisions of your vocals when it comes to these things. If they've really given it a lot of thought, then maybe you should back off and give them some space.

(Use the search button, champ.)

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Originally posted by armanivespucci If your vocals are gay, you might want to consider an intervention with them. Sometimes vocals get to a point in their life when they're confused and have identity issues. Sometimes it's just a phase, so don't worry, but it's important to respect the decisions of your vocals when it comes to these things. If they've really given it a lot of thought, then maybe you should back off and give them some space. (Use the search button, champ.)

rofl nice one

Cheers, thanks

What i meant was i need a bit of advice in teh eqing department on vocals or filtering any general advice, i did a search and i know about the advice in the sticky thread but i thought someone might have something worth sharing

1. Delay slightly
2. slight Reverb or Chours
3. EQ until vocals sound clear and they way you want them to be.

3 simples tips I usually use because having a naked vocals sounds nasty.

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Originally posted by Dj_Es-Dva Cheers, thanks What i meant was i need a bit of advice in teh eqing department on vocals or filtering any general advice, i did a search and i know about the advice in the sticky thread but i thought someone might have something worth sharing

Rest assured that such advice would have made it to the sticky if it had been posted.

Which makes me think... lately this forum has been thick on questions and thin on answers. I think it's high time people actually started posting tutorials and sharing information instead of sponging.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Rest assured that such advice would have made it to the sticky if it had been posted. Which makes me think... lately this forum has been thick on questions and thin on answers. I think it's high time people actually started posting tutorials and sharing information instead of sponging.

I've seen numerous threads about vocal compression and EQing. Unfortunately, the stickies are not a comprehensive lexicon of the entire universe of possible questions that have been answered on this forum. The search button starts where Diginut leaves off.

Also, personally, the constituent parts of my mix don't have sexual preferences. Although, my JP has been known to play a little grab-ass if over-compressed.

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Originally posted by armanivespucci I've seen numerous threads about vocal compression and EQing. Unfortunately, the stickies are not a comprehensive lexicon of the entire universe of possible questions that have been answered on this forum. The search button starts where Diginut leaves off.

That is true, it's just too bad that most of those numerous threads have a lot of questions, few answers, and moderate doses of bad advice. There used to be more *information* around here... or maybe I'm exercising selective memory.

Of course the stickies aren't going to answer every production question in the universe (nor should they, otherwise the forum would be pointless), but if some good information has been posted answering those awfully general questions like "how do I do vocal shizzity" then someone should bring it to my attention so I can put it in the hall of fame.

Hehe cool, all i was really after was even some simple help like what Kryptic wrote Thanks.

I'm no expert on vocals, but when mixing vocals, two things I would definitely look at are EQ and compression. Roll off unwanted bass frequencies and rumble with a highpass filter, and for the rest mostly shape the sound however you want, and to suit the mix, and/or reduce any problematic regions. Depending on how pronounced you want the compression effect to be, go with either a multiband compressor (minimum artefacts, plus you can use it as a de-esser), or a colourful wideband compressor (e.g. Waves RComp). Set the release nice and tight, or slightly longer depending on the singer and/or genre. Set the attack longer to make the vocal more pronounced, or lower for a smoother sound. Following this, you can of course apply reverb, delay, whatever. In fact, you don't even have to place the effects in this order, as experimenting and learning by trial and error is half the fun.

As for editing, I'd suggest Sound Forge. Just remember to increase the bit depth if you're going to edit samples offline.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Rest assured that such advice would have made it to the sticky if it had been posted. Which makes me think... lately this forum has been thick on questions and thin on answers. I think it's high time people actually started posting tutorials and sharing information instead of sponging.

it's funny that you say that because almost every answer to a question is "do a forum search" or "read the manual". what's the point of even asking questions here?

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Originally posted by No Left Turn it's funny that you say that because almost every answer to a question is "do a forum search" or "read the manual". what's the point of even asking questions here?

Yes, that is the answer to almost every question here that's already been answered in the manual, the stickies, or hundreds of past threads.

What's your point?

The point of asking questions on here (from my perspective, at least) is to find out things that other people have learned from experience which are not common knowledge. If every answer to a question is RTFM or then perhaps the problem is people asking the wrong questions, not giving the wrong answers.

if you put it that way then there shouldn't even be a message board then. this particular forum should just turn into a user manual/turorial page with no posting capabilities. or furthermore, there should be a separate forum for elitist users to post "rtfm" all day.

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Originally posted by No Left Turn if you put it that way then there shouldn't even be a message board then. this particular forum should just turn into a user manual/turorial page with no posting capabilities. or furthermore, there should be a separate forum for elitist users to post "rtfm" all day.

Did you actually read my post or were you just waiting for your turn to speak? There are many aspects of production that people acquire from experience that aren't common knowledge and aren't easily found in widely-available tutorials and user manuals. And there have been many threads in here discussing those topics - they're just overwhelmed by all the stupid questions, which people rightly try to discourage by giving unhelpful/sarcastic answers.

There's no excuse for waltzing in and expecting people to take time to spoonfeed you information that you could easily find on your own. Don't try to pin the blame on the people who are sick of seeing the same questions asked 5 times a week.

in fact, i am always waiting for my turn to speak. that's the point of having a discussion on a message board. you post, await a reply, and usually reply to that.

seriously, you act like you were never a noob to producing and that you were magically born with the knowledge of how things work. if that's the way you were born, power to you. unfortunately, not everyone is as gifted as you are. is it really so hard to not be a dickhead and simply not reply to a thread?

is this forum so precious to you that you don't want people posting on it? wait, let me gues... i'll find the answer to that if i read the forum's rules and regulations sticky thread. gotcha.

tbh i agree here. it is getting rather silly just pointing to the stickies or whatever.

i and others i have spoken to that although the forum is tidier and many basic questions can be answered easier, there has been a lot of discussion lost due to this elitism which is not what tranceaddict is about at all

this is a message board after all - not a university and not a library

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Originally posted by No Left Turn in fact, i am always waiting for my turn to speak. that's the point of having a discussion on a message board. you post, await a reply, and usually reply to that. seriously, you act like you were never a noob to producing and that you were magically born with the knowledge of how things work. if that's the way you were born, power to you. unfortunately, not everyone is as gifted as you are. is it really so hard to not be a dickhead and simply not reply to a thread? is this forum so precious to you that you don't want people posting on it? wait, let me gues... i'll find the answer to that if i read the forum's rules and regulations sticky thread. gotcha.

Agree with that ^.

I think a big problem for noobs such as myself is,
that half the time we don't know what we have to search for,

Diginut - you know a shit load man, no doubt.. but the way people see it is you're a bit of a forum cowboy these days. No offence man but your "use the search button" answers are about as pleasant as riding down a razor blade slide naked and landing in a bath full of vinegar.

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