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(NEW) Pioneer DJM-800 & DJM-400 (NEW) (PICS)

http://www.djdeals.com/pioneerDJM400.htm

http://www.djdeals.com/pioneerDJM800.htm

First auto beatmatching and now we have helpers for harmonic mixing???
Soon all the skill of djing will be automated... *hops over to producers boat*

Hurray, my CDJ-1000MKII purchases were not in vain! I mean..... Darn.. no new CDJ?

Mixers look pretty cool, glad to see they finally updated the 600.

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Originally posted by ieko I mean..... Darn.. no new CDJ?

you never know. NAMM is tomorrow

Yeah, but they said they'd only be introducing two new products.

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World class DJs currently spend thousands of hours learning the keys of their music

*cough* bullshit *cough*

ok, im hardly an authority on anything DJing but to my mind a computer will never be able to do something as successfully as a well-trained ear...

Re: (NEW) Pioneer DJM-400 & DJM-800 (NEW) (PICS)

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Originally posted by FEX321 http://www.djdeals.com/pioneerDJM400.htm http://www.djdeals.com/pioneerDJM800.htm

gonna post this in this thread too:

looks pretty uninteresting to me! and expensive. who's gonna buy a djm-800 if you can get xone:92 for 200$ more?

not me for sure (that is if i can ever afford to upgrade my mixer)

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Originally posted by ieko Yeah, but they said they'd only be introducing two new products.

care to explain why they discontinued the cdj-1000mk2 then?

edit: as for the mixers...the 400: 2 channels? no thanks. the 800:, looks pretty cool, but I'd just spend the extra money for the xone:92.

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Originally posted by punjabi care to explain why they discontinued then cdj-1000mk2 then?

how do you know?

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Originally posted by punjabi care to explain why they discontinued the cdj-1000mk2 then?

yeah how did you find that out?

Well as of a few days ago djdeals.com said it was discontinued in North America. Now it says it's backordered.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN *cough* bullshit *cough* ok, im hardly an authority on anything DJing but to my mind a computer will never be able to do something as successfully as a well-trained ear...

computers can be/are a lot more accurate at determining pitch than any human ear.

Anybet pioneer where planning on releasing a new cdj but sounds like they must have had some major problem with it that has postponed the release.

not enough line outs on the 400.

Those Upgrades ar every nice, just that the price should have stayed the same =)

i'm waiting to see how this midi works with the 800

i've been a fan of the 600 because it's been a workhorse

if this is just as reliable, with updated effects and other new toys

maybe it might influence my upcoming mixer choice

OMG
thats all i can say, as i drown in my own saliva

Bleh, nothing special about it IMO.

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Originally posted by blacknoizybox OMG thats all i can say, as i drown in my own saliva

this the first time you've seen a mixer?

i agree with moondog.

Ok naysayers...

First of all, "autobeatmatching"? How is that? It has a BPM counter, but as we all know those aren't much help. Unless you were referring to Ableton, which is the only package that can really "autobeatmatch" well.

The harmonic mixing effects look like it's a tone control for each channel, which means you'll still have to use your ears to use them correctly.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy First auto beatmatching and now we have helpers for harmonic mixing??? Soon all the skill of djing will be automated... *hops over to producers boat*

Pioneer on their forums posted that the DID NOT discontinue it.

They look quite expensive. I'll stick with my Xone 92 thank you. It looks like they took a bit of the xone like features and put them into the 800. Midi out, and the cueing looks like the xone.

I wonder how they sound... all digital.

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Originally posted by punjabi Well as of a few days ago djdeals.com said it was discontinued in North America. Now it says it's backordered.

DJM800 looks fucking cool.

High pass/low pass/notch filters on every channel!

I want to see how well the harmonic key matching thing works as well

And at 24bit @ 96KHz, it's gonna sound awesome.

Xone:92 can step aside, we have a new top of the market I'll probably get one in the summer.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 the cueing looks like the xone.

what do you mean by that? doesn't have pre/post eq possibility though? at least i didn't see one.

Oh, hmm. I just noticed the cue/mix knob, looking again I guess it's not really any different then the 600.

Not sure how the filter on each channel works, as there isn't a separate control for each. It looks like you'd have to move the effect select knob back and forth to set each channel.

I know it says 24/96, but we'll have to wait and see how it sounds though. I'm sure it uses a lot of same tech they put in the 1000 so it should sound great... and you can FINALLY use those digital outs on the CDJ-1000's (to connect them directly into the mixer). And it has a digital record out as well, so all digital to your PC for recording.

Looks very nice. One thing I love about the Xone's is that it's build quality is so great. I played around with the DJM-1000 and the knobs felt cheap for a $2700 mixer, the Xone's are built like tanks. I think they'll still rule the market for a a while, particularly with their great analog sound and filters.

Looks like this trumps the 92's midi capabilities, which doesn't take much, for sure.

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Originally posted by skip what do you mean by that? doesn't have pre/post eq possibility though? at least i didn't see one.

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