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Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-22-2006 00:48:

Green Party Of Canada



Just curious ... anyone other than me here on TA going to vote for the Green Party? I am a big fan. Too bad they won't win, but every vote increases their funding. I am also very angry that my Greens weren't allowed to participate in the debate, even though they own 4.5% of national vote from last election, 5th highest (expected to grow this year).

To learn about Green Party of Canada, click:

http://www.greenparty.ca/


Posted by Pett on Jan-22-2006 00:54:

yup, i am

but pretty much in spite of the rest of the hurting parties


Posted by Irishaddict on Jan-22-2006 00:56:

Their platform is commendable but I don't think enough people view them as credible enough not to be considered a "wasted vote".

My 0.02


Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-22-2006 00:58:



I like this quote from Green Party's website, for an example:

quote:

We can build a healthy Canada

Political parties keep telling Canadians how they are going to "fix" the health care system. But not only do the same problems persist, they are also getting worse. That's because the Conservatives, Liberals and NDP all focus on treating the symptoms of the problem rather than looking at the overall health of Canadians.

The Green Party believes that if we are to have a sustainable, universal public health care system, we need to focus on keeping well, not just treating patients when they get sick.


Don't tell me that this is not the solution to our health care problem.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-22-2006 01:00:



i hav no doubt that these guys hav very good intentions .. it's just too bad that not enuff ppl take them seriously.. there were 2 guys the other day at Don Mills station canvassing and ppl juss flat out ignored them

hav to commend them for their efforts tho .. atleast they're showing that they care for something


i'd vote Natural Law party if they were still around.. remember them !!


Posted by Pett on Jan-22-2006 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


I like this quote from Green Party's website, for an example:



Don't tell me that this is not the solution to our health care problem.


fuckin hippies


Posted by Yohan on Jan-22-2006 01:02:

I don't see them offering any better platform than NDP.

Well, except they're less slimy than NDP


Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-22-2006 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
fuckin hippies


Huh? WHat does this mean?

My point is, most of my views are represented in Green Party and I cant believe I havent found out about them in the previous election.


Posted by Stingray on Jan-22-2006 01:25:

I voted Green last election and I shall again on Monday.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Jan-22-2006 01:39:

The problem with the Green Party is not the platform - the problem is that the candidates that they have running are inexperienced, ineffective and often inarticulate.

If the Green Party wants to be taken more seriously they need to improve their candidate roster/credentials significantly.


Posted by Sly_Guy on Jan-22-2006 02:19:

I'll vote for anyone who will legalize it...


Posted by DJ_Ampz on Jan-22-2006 02:39:

Im voting Green.....if it matters

Ampz


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-22-2006 18:58:

i wont vote green party and here is why:

They want to raise taxes on junk food, Gasoline, cigarettes and alcohol as a way of social engineering. I am very much AGAINST the idea of government's treating society as children. Since this is the Green party's philosophy i cannot vote for them.


Posted by RandomGirl on Jan-22-2006 19:07:

I am voting green!


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jan-22-2006 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL

i'd vote Natural Law party if they were still around.. remember them !!


One of the founders of the Natural Law Party is running for the CPC.

http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/riding/080#allenmackenzie


Posted by Dufouria on Jan-22-2006 19:44:

they received 2 mill for getting %2 of the vote and what did they do with it? They didn't run T.V ads like "real parties". I voted for them my green party candidate last time, but me thinks I'll be going NDP.


Posted by Izra on Jan-22-2006 19:54:

I am voting for the green party as well, because they seem to have more progressive ideas than the rest !


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-22-2006 20:18:

the green party may be trendy but make sure you know exactly what it is you are voting for.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jan-22-2006 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The problem with the Green Party is not the platform - the problem is that the candidates that they have running are inexperienced, ineffective and often inarticulate.

If the Green Party wants to be taken more seriously they need to improve their candidate roster/credentials significantly.




exactly.. they need someone like Paul Martin


Posted by ghetto_fab on Jan-23-2006 01:09:

I vote green all the way


Posted by ++ EGO ++ on Jan-23-2006 03:41:

I have been a supporter of the green party ever since I could vote, and to be honest I think most of you are missing the point about their true intentions.

Sure it would be ideal to have them rally up as much votes as the Liberals and what not, but their main concern is to get enough votes to prove to the rest of Canada that people do care about the environment and certain issues that get shafted by others parties.

I'm all for green, but I really don't think they're expecting to win any-time soon. I think Liz said it best, they're deffinately more progressive in their mentality.


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-23-2006 04:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
They want to raise taxes on junk food, Gasoline, cigarettes and alcohol as a way of social engineering.


quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
I am voting green!


Why am I not surprised... hahaha.

The last thing we need as Canadians is more government micromanagement. People don't seem to realize that whether or not they've got a nice philosophy, it's morally wrong to try to enforce it on everyone.


Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-23-2006 13:09:



quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
i wont vote green party and here is why:

They want to raise taxes on junk food, Gasoline, cigarettes and alcohol as a way of social engineering. I am very much AGAINST the idea of government's treating society as children. Since this is the Green party's philosophy i cannot vote for them.


Well, I respect your view, but I actually love this idea of raising taxes on harmful things and lowering taxes on healthy, more effective products. People like saving money, so they'll eventually adjust to this system. Otherwise people are so lazy they would never change their ways. Lazy people need government's help. I know a few people personally who finally quit smoking because they had enough of paying lots of money on them.

I myself became a vegetarian few months ago after doing a lot of research into food & health. I dont eat any animal meat or milk, but I do keep a careful tab on all the vitamins, minerals, protein and fiber that my body would need (I drink soy milk). It was hard to quit on meat. The first month of rejection was unbearable, I DREAMED ABOUT MEAT, so addictive. And let me tell you, since I have stopped eating meat, I am now feeling better, I AM NEVER TIRED, I sleep better, and I pay less for food!!! And, I get more protein in nuts, veggies and bread! Plus soy milk has no lactose (a lot of Canadians are lactose-intolerant, by the way), it has MORE calcium than antibiotics-pumped cow's milk has, etc.

Maybe sometime I'll start a thread and open up people's eyes as to what meat and cow milk ACTUALLY have. You think governments and corporations care about your health? Spending more on health care is not the solution when there are more and more sick people in hospitals because they dont eat properly, do drugs, smoke, dont exercise (yes, north americans are more overwheight than the rest of the world). Green Party focuses on the preventative measures. People NEED to know (at least, need information), because Canadian (and American) education system frankly doesnt teach you much about values, healthy eating (I've seen a kindergarten 'healthy eating' tape last week and LAUGHED) or any moral values whatsoever anymore. For example, aspartame and monosodium glutamate are test proven to cause cancer in rats, yet they are added to many of our foods (with exception to many other countries, particularly in Europe, who BANNED them). Etc.

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The problem with the Green Party is not the platform - the problem is that the candidates that they have running are inexperienced, ineffective and often inarticulate.

If the Green Party wants to be taken more seriously they need to improve their candidate roster/credentials significantly.


Yes, I have to agree with this.

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL in response to Rabbitjoker


exactly.. they need someone like Paul Martin



LOL ... yeah, they NEED someone like Paul Martin (sarcasm) ... LOL


Posted by St_Andrew on Jan-23-2006 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


I like this quote from Green Party's website, for an example:

We can build a healthy Canada


quote:
Political parties keep telling Canadians how they are going to "fix" the health care system. But not only do the same problems persist, they are also getting worse. That's because the Conservatives, Liberals and NDP all focus on treating the symptoms of the problem rather than looking at the overall health of Canadians.

The Green Party believes that if we are to have a sustainable, universal public health care system, we need to focus on keeping well, not just treating patients when they get sick.


Don't tell me that this is not the solution to our health care problem.


My government have been trying to do this for years, and we currently have among the highest rate of sick ppl in the world. It sounds good but it really isn't a genius idea. Plus as some others pointed out, social engineering is NOT what Canada needs right now, and it is really a disgusting thing to do to your population.


Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-23-2006 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew

My government have been trying to do this for years, and we currently have among the highest rate of sick ppl in the world. It sounds good but it really isn't a genius idea. Plus as some others pointed out, social engineering is NOT what Canada needs right now, and it is really a disgusting thing to do to your population.


Well, alright then. If 'social engineering' is the problem, as some of you TAs here have pointed out, then answer me this question:

For how long will we have to postpone reversing the damage to the environment and to people alike, before we destroy the entire ecosystem of the planet?

The longer we wait and wait, the less chances we'll have to save our environment. Billions of people around the world live in poverty (over 2 billion live on less than 2 dollars a day). Then there are rainforests cut down every minute, acres of them. When will we stop? If we keep postponing changes, very soon there will be nothing left for our children and their children's children to see. WAKE UP, CANADA!

In 1934, there were 2 billion people on the planet. In 1999 there were 6 billion. Now we have 6.5 billion. At this pace by 2050 by many estimates we will have not enough food to feed the people on the planet. The technology and soul degredation will simply not be able to sustain all of us, expecially the overfed overwheight North Americans (us) who produce 50% of world's pollution (US mostly) and use a third or more of world's resources.

When will we stop? As soon as we run out of oil and other fossil fuels and freshwater supplies are becoming scarse as it is (by the way, Canada now has A HALF of all world's freshwater), when there will be too much cardon dioxide in the air and not enough trees to convert it to oxygen, people will go to wars to get other people's food, shelter, better way of life. Its already starting - US went to war in Iraq for oil primarily ... we are squandering the planet's resources at a steep rate. There is no argument about it, its a FACT.


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