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Posted by djlogik on Jan-24-2006 08:19:

Sad with fellow TA's

I'm actually pretty sad at the moment because people post on the forums and expect input and either receive flame or they get 50 views and 1 post. Is it really that hard that if you even take the time to look at the thread to just give a quick response? If you don't understand the subject, then that's a different story...but even asking a question in that same thread would help not only you but others as well. I'm just annoyed at this because some people actually put some time and effort to make these forums nice for not only new people coming in, but also for older members that could still learn from even newcomers. All I'm saying is that if you have the time to give the thread a look, try and give it either a review either at that time or later on in the day.


Posted by Chronosis on Jan-24-2006 09:31:

Some people have real lifes.


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-24-2006 10:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Chronosis
Some people have real lifes.


Thats the perfect reply because it works for both sides of the argument!


Posted by Jason_R on Jan-24-2006 11:38:

Saying that I've had some really good advice given to me latley.


Posted by richg101 on Jan-24-2006 15:06:

it is very weired how threads get so many views but very little replies.

take the producer promotion forum...

is it that people come here to hopefully get a free track to download? and are nt even interested in how they are made?

who are looking at the tracks????


Posted by aleksd on Jan-24-2006 15:31:

I visit this particular thread (production studio) frequently, but rarely post. I'm very interested in the whole production spectrum, but I'm an absolute beginner, so I come here in search of knowledge. I've actually learned a lot just by reading the various discussions around here. I'm sure that I'm not the only one in this position, so that might explain why the views to posts ratio is skewed. Hopefully one day I'll be able share something constructive


Posted by Tygon on Jan-24-2006 16:34:

I think the main reason for this is because 90% of the people that visit this forum are newbies looking for answers. I think there's only a small handful of people here that can give valid answers to many of the questions posted here. Also, those people that are knowledgeable are limited to their specific interest/field (ex. Ableton, Cubase, FL, etc)... except perhaps if it's a general technical question about sound and construction of sound frequencies.

Unless you're DigiNut and know everything about anything

hehe


Posted by Trancevision on Jan-24-2006 16:39:

Re: Sad with fellow TA's

quote:
Originally posted by djlogik
I'm actually pretty sad at the moment because people post on the forums and expect input and either receive flame or they get 50 views and 1 post. Is it really that hard that if you even take the time to look at the thread to just give a quick response?


I read lots of threads but sometimes I am tired of writing down my answer. Most questions have been answered before, sometimes you just have to read the stickies. There are so much newbies here asking the same questions over and over again:

- what software do I need
- can I get a cracked version of xyz
- I've heard there is a freeware version of the JP8000
- how can make the XYZ lead
- where can I get good XYL samples
- can I control my car with fruity loops
- I've made a loop, can you please listen to it
- what is the cutoff filter
...

If you go to other forums (like Vengeance for example) you'll meet most of the time very professional producers discussion interesting productions aspects.
Most of those people have also paid for the software they use, so you won't find any noob questions like: "How can I automate my sequencer" and stuff like that...

Trancevision


Posted by Final Call on Jan-24-2006 22:45:

Re: Re: Sad with fellow TA's

quote:
Originally posted by Trancevision
I read lots of threads but sometimes I am tired of writing down my answer. Most questions have been answered before, sometimes you just have to read the stickies. There are so much newbies here asking the same questions over and over again:

- what software do I need
- can I get a cracked version of xyz
- I've heard there is a freeware version of the JP8000
- how can make the XYZ lead
- where can I get good XYL samples
- can I control my car with fruity loops
- I've made a loop, can you please listen to it
- what is the cutoff filter
...

If you go to other forums (like Vengeance for example) you'll meet most of the time very professional producers discussion interesting productions aspects.
Most of those people have also paid for the software they use, so you won't find any noob questions like: "How can I automate my sequencer" and stuff like that...

Trancevision


you can control a car with FL studios? lol


Posted by Storyteller on Jan-24-2006 23:19:

technically... yes
all you need is a midi to whatever convertor to make it start and hit the gas or brakes... certainly doable.


Posted by kaymak on Jan-24-2006 23:52:

I can see both sides of the story, this site if FULL to the brim of very talented producers, some who I know and alot i dont,

Their have been thousands of very informed replies on nearly every subject god can throw down about the production of music, Trance or otherwise,

But, Although i dont agree with it, If you have been asked the same question 2 or 3 times a week by lazy ppl who are looking for a quick fix(and I have been guilty of this) you would get pissed off also, hense the snotty answers.

Their are pages of threads covering all aspects of production, have a look, use the search option, dont just rely on this site but most of all use ur ears and if all of the above fails post away,

Kev


Posted by Axolotyl on Jan-25-2006 00:06:

Its interesting if you go back and read the threads from 2-3 years ago as you'll notice a lot more free discussion on topics. Aside from that fact its also quite funny to read comments from a lot of the old timers as production n00bs and seeing how far they have come.

I know what you mean though. The answer to a lot of questions people ask is "there is no answer" or "use the search". Which is kind of odd, since you usually dont get those sorts of responses on forums like kvr for example. Even if the question has been asked a hundred times, people are very keen to re-itterate. Or maybe its just people arnt asking the right questions to stimulate discussion?? Generally though, I think it would definately be good to see a lot more freeform conversation on these boards.


Posted by zodiac9 on Jan-25-2006 00:32:

The reasons I don't reply to the threads here a whole lot, are the same reasons already mentioned here. A lot of the questions asked here could be easily answered with a search of this forum, looking at the FAQs, or even with a web search. So who wants to waste their time replying to those? I've offered imput where I can though, and have also let people know I've found the info they posted usefull. I never flame, and never reply unless I have more than 3 words to say.

To be honest, I rarely see an interesting post around here. Seems a lot of people come here just to get help, and that's ok, but I rarely see any threads that are thought provoking, spawning stimulating discussions. Nothing can be done to change this of course, I'm just explaining why I don't reply a whole lot.

I never thought that people might come here looking for free tracks. Seems more likely they would go to the tracks section where producers are submiting their tracks for review. I get the feeling that most of posts with many views and few replies, are indeed from green producers. I'm in learning mode too, I'm not green by any means, but there's a lot of tricks, techniques, and technology that I'm not familiar with or haven't heard of. In that case, I only reply if I have a follow up question.


Posted by Aquarian on Jan-25-2006 03:43:

I often check threads from work or school, where I can't really download tracks and review them. Then if I do choose to check out a track (and I rarely do because of time issues), I go back once to download it and a second time afterwards to post a reply. That's already three views there.

Also, I often find myself with nothing constructive to add. I find it pointless to just post 'nice song' every time I listen to a track, so I usually just post if I have something intelligent to say. Sometimes I'll even just PM the thread starter instead.


Posted by richg101 on Jan-25-2006 13:19:

axolotyl mentined the fact that people give harsh replies like 'use the search !'

i think these people need to chill a little. if they dont want to read or answer these questions then dont look at the thread... simple.

but there are a good few people here who spend their lives doing this. how can something like that piss them off? they need to spend less time on the forum and more time doing productive stuff.

'sidechaining' is a typical example. if your bored of the questions being asked then ignore them...


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-25-2006 14:10:

Im still a noob when it comes to production so i dont have much to add but when i do i add as much as i can.
I read almost every thread that goes through here and take in as much info as possible, so that one day ill not only be able to produce tracks that i am proud of but also so that i will be one of the people making the detailed/informative replies.


Posted by Tygon on Jan-25-2006 20:33:

I think one of the reasons that the quality of the posts has died around here is because this forum is diluted with half-interested wanna-be producers that pirate their software... they haven't done the research and are too lazy to search through the forums and other resources on the net for answers. They're not completely serious about music production and assume that it's as easy as pushing a few buttons... hense the "how do I make a melody" or "how do I make my song better" threads...

That may be a jaded comment... but I think it's the same as the DJ industry. So many wanna-be DJs dilute the market... but hey.. at least they have to pay for their gear (which they generally end up selling a year later)


Posted by funkysouls on Jan-26-2006 09:29:

quote:
Originally posted by aleksd
I visit this particular thread (production studio) frequently, but rarely post. I'm very interested in the whole production spectrum, but I'm an absolute beginner, so I come here in search of knowledge. I've actually learned a lot just by reading the various discussions around here. I'm sure that I'm not the only one in this position, so that might explain why the views to posts ratio is skewed. Hopefully one day I'll be able share something constructive



Very true.


Posted by T-Soma on Jan-26-2006 10:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Tygon
So many wanna-be DJs dilute the market... but hey.. at least they have to pay for their gear (which they generally end up selling a year later)


Your forgetting dj programs and such.
Owell atleast the wonnabees who do it to be cool and dont own anything dissapear after a little while.


Posted by jremking on Jan-31-2006 12:37:

I pop in and out on here alot, but often do not reply for many reasons. First I am a casual producer with no music theory experience, so I am totally useless on any theory questions. Next, I use mostly Reason 3.0 and the cheapo Cubase, so alot of tech questions are for stuff I never even got to play with. Finally, simply put, I am still a noob when it comes to alot of this stuff, and well, do not even make trance music.

I started to haunt this site after I found that I got better info here than from books on music production I was reading, and even though I do more aggro industrial, I can often figure out how to make what I want by reading through the archives of threads.

If I can answer something on a rare occasion I will, but mostly I just view threads and save them as text if the info is something I will use down the line, or just kill time reading various techinque stuff.

I do agree though I see alot of harshness when people just starting ask noobish questions though, which is why I do not make any threads.


Posted by ralpheeee on Feb-01-2006 07:18:

I think u all need to smoke some chronic and cheeeeel the feck out.



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