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Posted by E2EK1EL on Jan-26-2006 13:11:

Deadly Driving - Video Games are blamed ... ???

The cab was a twisted wreck, tangled around a pole. Smoke rose into the night air as rescue crews looked on helplessly. There was, in the end, nothing left to save.

There was a terrible irony at the scene of a deadly accident near Mt. Pleasant and St. Clair Ave. Tuesday night � it looked like a graphic scene from a video game.

And police fear that may have been the inspiration for the crash that killed a 46-year-old Toronto cab driver.

It happened around 10:30pm when two 18-year-olds were allegedly driving their parents� Mercedes Benz cars at a high rate of speed up Mt. Pleasant.

As taxi driver Tahir Khan tried to make a left hand turn, one of the luxury automobiles appeared from out of nowhere, smashing directly into him.

�When he made that turn, two motor vehicles at a very high rate of speed were northbound,� relates Det. Paul Lobsinger. �He crossed directly into the path of those vehicles and one of these vehicles struck him.�

He died at the scene.

The car that hit the cab sat nearby badly damaged, but at first there was no sign of the other vehicle. The driver left the scene only to return minutes later. By then, police were waiting.

Investigators quickly determined the cause of the crash � excessive speed, likely because the two expensive cars were racing against each other.

And inside of one of them, an apparent motive � the video game Need For Speed, which allows users to race through a city avoiding obstacles and police.

Speeds in the game reach 300 kilometres an hour. Cops theorize the accused were trying to turn the fantasy into reality, with tragic results.

On Wednesday night, friends of the deceased made a difficult call back to his homeland to inform his family of the bad news.

�My friend just called Pakistan and notified the family and are in process of making arrangements to ship the body to Pakistan,� said Rashid Quazi

Authorities contend street racing is becoming all too common a problem in the G.T.A. and they vow to clamp down on it in any way possible.

To prove it, they�ve laid the heaviest charges they could against the drivers.

Alexander Ryazanov and Wang−Piao Dumani Ross have both been accused of criminal negligence causing death. Ross also faces additional charges for leaving the scene of the crash.

Their families were at College Park courts on Wednesday morning, when both made their first appearance before a judge. They remain in custody pending bail hearings.

If convicted, the maximum penalty could be life in prison.

http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Sto...25-002/page.asp


Do you think it's possible that this happen b/c of Need for Speed (game) ?


Posted by Trance Nutter on Jan-26-2006 13:14:

Youth galavanting around in cars has happened long before computer games ever existed.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jan-26-2006 13:29:

I totally believe that video games cause people to do things they wouldn't normally. Hell, just last weekend I was playing Grand Theft Auto and got an unbelievable urge to live out the game so I stole my neighbours car, killed a crackwhore, started a shootout with the cops..... thankfully I still had 4 lives left so once they took away my guns I was fine and went back home. The next day I played Sonic the Hedgehog..... ever since then I've been doing summersaults all over the place.


Posted by Tordan on Jan-26-2006 13:32:

It is possible unfortunately. I don't play racing games often but when I do it pumps me up pretty good. I've noticed myself take a few unnecessary risks a day or two after playing. Speeding, weaving in and out of lanes is more exhilarating than usual. It's still in your subconscious and takes a while to forget. But of course, if you consciously make the decision to race then that's your fault. The game might have initiated the thought but it's up to you to act on it.


Posted by DigDeep on Jan-26-2006 13:38:

So stupid. It's common sense, YOU DONT RACE IN REAL LIFE ON CITY STREETS!!! Duh. This reminds me a lot of the murder case years ago, where 2pac's music was to blame for a murder, because it was in the tape deck of the accused. Music, video games, movies, television, DO NOT KILL. It's the people with twisted minds who dont know the difference between fantasy and reality.


Posted by Halycon on Jan-26-2006 13:40:

theres no reason anyone needs to be going 140 km/h on Mount Plesant on a wednsday afternoon.


Posted by crazedcanuck on Jan-26-2006 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
So stupid. It's common sense, YOU DONT RACE IN REAL LIFE ON CITY STREETS!!! Duh. This reminds me a lot of the murder case years ago, where 2pac's music was to blame for a murder, because it was in the tape deck of the accused. Music, video games, movies, television, DO NOT KILL. It's the people with twisted minds who dont know the difference between fantasy and reality.


But Jeff, there was no fantasy here, just solid reality.

I have a theory. Two young, unskilled immature drivers who are racing fans were driving too fast and crashed into a taxi, killing the driver.

They happened to be in posession of a racing game, since racing is a hobby of theirs.

Fin


Posted by Orko on Jan-26-2006 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by crazedcanuck
But Jeff, there was no fantasy here, just solid reality.

I have a theory. Two young, unskilled immature drivers who are racing fans were driving too fast and crashed into a taxi, killing the driver.

They happened to be in posession of a racing game, since racing is a hobby of theirs.

Fin


I am a huge racing game fan, and have played every single Need For Speed (NFS) since they came out. I would be/am scared shitless to do anything I do in the game, on real roads. The physics are imperfect, the crash modeling is bogus, I know this. If I smack into a wall at anywhere over 40km/h I am going to be seriously hurt.

I love racing, and I do it on the track. I go gokarting.

Seeing the difference between racing games and real life has only strengenthed my belief that you cannot do things in real life like you can in games.

Street racing was big long before racing games. 70's muscle cars anybody? The only difference between now and then, is so many cars on the road today have 200+bhp, which means the average driver now has more power than they are trained for.


Posted by Skipper on Jan-26-2006 15:29:

Blaming the video game shifts the accountability from the drivers to the game. Not a good way to teach teenagers that they need to take responsibility for their actions.

Street racing, as others have said, is not a product of today's video games.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jan-26-2006 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Halycon
theres no reason anyone needs to be going 140 km/h on Mount Plesant on a wednsday afternoon.


WHAT? Of course there is! You're not going to win a race doing 60!


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-26-2006 16:05:

hahah, first it was first person shooters labelled as "murder simulators" because they influenced kids to shoot people; now racing games are blamed for irresponsible driving?



yea ok


Posted by MarkT on Jan-26-2006 16:08:

I hope the courts send out a message...toss both these kids in jail for a couple of years, at least...suspend their license for another 5...and put them on *permanent* driving probation (another major speeding or racing infraction, permanently revoke it).

someone should also slap the shit out of their parents. there's no reason kids should be driving powerful luxery cars at that age.

buy them a fucking corolla for their first car until they've shown they're mature enough to drive something else.


Posted by TO guy on Jan-26-2006 16:17:

Yeah, they definately need jail time for this. If all they did was wreck each other's (parent's) cars I could see suspension and probation ... but they killed an innocent. You can't allow that.


Posted by girllovingtvibe on Jan-26-2006 16:43:

so ridiculous - just like blaming gun violence or ill tempered people on rock music....when will media learn....what a waste of energy and shame on the person who wrote the article to use such s cliche...I think it should be blamed on the person and what they did NOT a Corporation for their ill behavior....argh


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-26-2006 16:49:

SOCIETY UNLOADING RESPONSIBILITY ON PEOPLE OTHER THAN THEMSELVES, NEWS AT 11


Posted by Moral Hazard on Jan-26-2006 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by girllovingtvibe
so ridiculous - just like blaming gun violence or ill tempered people on rock music....when will media learn....what a waste of energy and shame on the person who wrote the article to use such s cliche...


Writing the story is not a waste. There are all sorts of people that will put the blame anywhere except the kids (or themselves) and tv, movies, games all provide a good scapegoat. All of these people are eager to have evidence to back up their convictions that they are not responsible for their own bad actions. Subsequently, if they read a headline "Video Game Leads to Fatal Accident" they're going to buy that paper, read it, and feel secure in the knowledge that forces outside of themselves are at fault for everything bad that happens in their lives. The key in all that is that people will BUY the paper. That's why the story is carried, because it sells. Whether there is any validity to it or not the paper sells copies when they get a story like this and that revenue is reason enough to run the story.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jan-26-2006 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
SOCIETY UNLOADING RESPONSIBILITY ON PEOPLE OTHER THAN THEMSELVES, NEWS AT 11


thats the main problem.


Posted by Stingray on Jan-26-2006 16:54:

This is so dumb. People of all ages have been racing cars and smashing them on city streets since the invention of the 'horseless carriage'. It's got nothing to do with playing video games.


Posted by Euphorica on Jan-26-2006 20:52:

^ EXACTLY . Talk about not having some news to report, they gotta make up this bogus shit.


Posted by Nikitha on Jan-27-2006 00:24:

ppl have been driving like idiots for decades...
these games have nothing to do with it
i agree with jamie 100%
ppl need to stop pointing fingers and startplacing the blame where is belondgs.. onto who is really responsible.. and the idiots who are doing these things need to stop pussying out and take responsibility for their actions

Nikitha


Posted by arek on Jan-27-2006 00:28:

those kid should get the death sentence.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-27-2006 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by arek
those kid should get the death sentence.

Well, you just opened a can of whoopsie.

Hell, people have been doing this racing stuff before the invention of horseless carriages, ever since mankind figured out that they can ride on back of some animals
Chariot racings (which happened to be more popular than gladiator fights) in Roman coliseum are nothing safe about it.


Posted by JB1 on Jan-27-2006 00:51:

This is totally outrageous! Blaming racing games for the two teenagers' irresponsibleness and carelss act??? There is a place so called the race track for racing, not on city streets when civilians are arounded. It does not require the brains of Isaac Newton or Stephen Hawking to figure this out.


Wait and see what kind of statements can the defendant's lawyer pull out this time.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jan-27-2006 00:53:

quote:

It happened around 10:30pm when two 18-year-olds were allegedly driving their parents� Mercedes Benz cars at a high rate of speed up Mt. Pleasant.


Not so pleasant for the taxi driver!

Har har har.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-27-2006 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Not so pleasant for the taxi driver!

Har har har.


Ba dum TCHHHH


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