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A funny example of American ignorance and arrogance

Ignorance? Arrogance? Naivite? You decide.

So I'm reading all these articles and news stories about how Congress wants to restrict Internet porn (we've already covered the "conservative" Puritan angle of this -- some people are actually interested in how you spend your free time, and want to control it, in a "free" country -- how about that?, but that's not what this thread is actually about).

In any event, I'm reading all these stories, I'm reading about fat congressmen debating and passing laws, I'm reading about "concerned parents" and CyberNanny and SafeSurf, and I'm thinking, how can all these people be so STUPID, to completely ignore the INTERNATIONAL angle of this all, and to think that America is the whole world? How stupid can they be to imagine that the Internet is just about the US and its laws and values, and that it can be controlled by a single country?

It's hardly news that many Americans don't know much about the rest of the world (recall the joke about the "World Series" with only one country represented), but.. isn't it hilariously funny, that all these Congressmen are passing laws, and American parents are safely assuming that their SafeSurf is doing the job, while their children are equally comfy browsing German or Italian porn sites?

What's equally astonishing is that no one in the American media has even brought this up. The word "international" is just not on the radar of American lawmakers, journalists, and plain citizens. Oh, but of course - America is the only country in the world. And the overstressed American parents can finally sleep well at night, after this law passes, knowing that an American breast is the only breast there is -- and their offspring is protected from such horror by the ever-dutiful American government. Hilarious.

A similar problem among lawyers exposed:

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:21:43 -0100 (GMT) From: anakata To: [email protected][/email] Subject: Re: Unauthorized Use of DreamWorks SKG Properties On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 [email protected] wrote: > Dennis L. Wilson, Esq. > KEATS McFARLAND & WILSON, LLP > 9720 Wilshire Blvd., Penthouse Suite > Beverly Hills, CA 90212 > Tel: (310) 248-3830 > Fax: (310) 860-0363 > > > August 23, 2004 > > > VIA ELECTRONIC MAIL > AND U.S. MAIL > > ThePirateBay.org > Box 1206 > Stockholm 11479 > SWEDEN > > [email][email protected] > > Re: Unauthorized Use of DreamWorks SKG Properties > http://www.thepiratebay.org > > To Whom It May Concern: > > This letter is being written to you on behalf of our > client, DreamWorks SKG (hereinafter ^�DreamWorks^�). > DreamWorks is the exclusive owner of all copyright, > trademark and other intellectual property rights in > and to the ^�Shrek 2^� motion picture. No one is > authorized to copy, reproduce, distribute, or > otherwise use the ^�Shrek 2^� motion picture without > the express written permission of DreamWorks. [...] > As you may be aware, Internet Service Providers can > be held liable if they do not respond to claims of > infringement pursuant to the requirements of the > Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). In > accordance with the DMCA, we request your assistance > in the removal of infringements of the ^�Shrek 2^� > motion picture from this web site and any other sites > for which you act as an Internet Service Provider. > We further declare under penalty of perjury that we > are authorized to act on behalf of DreamWorks and > that the information in this letter is accurate. > Please contact me immediately to discuss this matter > further. As you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe. Unless you figured it out by now, US law does not apply here. For your information, no Swedish law is being violated. Please be assured that any further contact with us, regardless of medium, will result in a) a suit being filed for harassment b) a formal complaint lodged with the bar of your legal counsel, for sending frivolous legal threats. It is the opinion of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons, and that you should please go sodomize yourself with retractable batons. Please also note that your e-mail and letter will be published in full on http://www.thepiratebay.org. Go fuck yourself. Polite as usual, anakata

There's a lot more at http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php

There could be some answers here:
Comments of the United States of America on Internet Governance
http://www.state.gov/e/eb/rls/othr/2005/51063.htm

HAHAHAHA @ Tranceaholic! LOL!

Re: A funny example of American ignorance and arrogance

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd how can all these people be so STUPID, to completely ignore the INTERNATIONAL angle of this all, and to think that America is the whole world? How stupid can they be to imagine that the Internet is just about the US and its laws and values, and that it can be controlled by a single country?

How could people be so stupid as to believe that censorship laws will be used solely for censoring porn and not any other information in cyberspace?

Hardtranceprod..you really dislike America dont you?

LOL

Awesome reply. Anakata is COOL!

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Originally posted by gouuryella Hardtranceprod..you really dislike America dont you?

No, he doesn't. Although I'm sure he doesn't appreciate having other people impose their values on him.

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Originally posted by gouuryella Hardtranceprod..you really dislike America dont you?

Huh? I'm American myself. I just don't like conservative rednecks and people who are narrow-minded, ignorant, and too religious.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Huh? I'm American myself. I just don't like conservative rednecks and people who are narrow-minded, ignorant, and too religious.

i Like u hey did u go to paris finally?

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Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l i Like u hey did u go to paris finally?

Yes! I did -- right after the cars stopped burning

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Huh? I'm American myself. I just don't like conservative rednecks and people who are narrow-minded, ignorant, and too religious.

Well obviously, since you care so much about the porno industry, your a better man. Also I would like to that to your comment about the World Series. Well, there are plenty of foreign players on MLB, that are from different countries and that play all together, yes its generely Americans playing, but that is because its Americas number one sport, and it takes place in America. I am sure that any team that wins the World Series can beat any baseball national team out there, thats why they are called World champions. Take NBA as another example, plenty of foreign players, more then MLB for that matter. Any team that wins the NBA Finals, is called the World champs, and you know why? Because they can beat any other nation in basketball all the time. Why dont you hear when a team that wins the Super Bowl called World Champion? Because its only Americans playing. Oh and why dont you hear any team that wins the MLB cup called World Champion, because we americans know we suck at soccer. So your argument is shit. America is internation, more international than any other country out there. We are so international, in fact we try and help countries, because we can. Your always complaining about America and its rules, yet we are the superpower of this world, and in fact we can rule this world because we can. Just like the Romans, and many other superpowers in the past.

I mean, why do you care so much about the porno industry? Cant you get laid or something? You need porn to satisfy you. Or better else, why dont you go buy porno DVDs even if porno is banned from the internet. Im sure it will be banned for its good reasons such as keeping our kids safe and not having to be imposed to porno when they are young, of course, your a liberal, you dont care what other people do, you just want to be free.

gouryella:

I find it funny how you write that America is so "international" and diverse, yet when someone mentions a lifestyle different from the Christian majority's (such as using porn), you immediately assume they should be dictated to. Do you not see the irony in your statements?

Perhaps a better statement might have been, "America is very international and diverse, as long as the core Puritan culture is observed."

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd gouryella: I find it funny how you write that America is so "international" and diverse, yet when someone mentions a lifestyle different from the Christian majority's (such as using porn), you immediately assume they should be dictated to. Do you not see the irony in your statements? Perhaps a better statement might have been, "America is very international and diverse, as long as the core Puritan culture is observed."

Well there is nothing funny about that, I dont mind other lifestyles, lifestyles that make sense. I'm not like you, I dont believe in letting people do whatever they want, and things that can affect other peoples lives, such as in this case letting children watch porn. And No, I dont see irony in my statements. What Puritan culture in America? Why do you dislike religion so much? You blame all these problems at religion. Maybe your an athiest and dont give a crap about anything in this world, just as long as your happy. You make America sound so bad, its all bullshit that comes from you. The puritan way of life, excuse me, since when do we live like puritans?

In fact we are diverse, more diverse then other nations. Look at South American, 98 % of them are Catholics. Italy, Spain, Portugal all catholics. Many countries in the world are religious, most of Europe is. So I dont get your argument on religion and making it sound like a bad thing.

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Originally posted by gouuryella In fact we are diverse, more diverse then other nations. Look at South American, 98 % of them are Catholics. Italy, Spain, Portugal all catholics. Many countries in the world are religious, most of Europe is. So I dont get your argument on religion and making it sound like a bad thing.

Come on man stop talking out of your ass. Most of Europe is religious? Dude get a clue or -- better yet -- travel, something that's woefully needed for your Southern small-town mentality, and you'll see if your "hypothesis" is true or not.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Huh? I'm American myself. I just don't like conservative rednecks and people who are narrow-minded, ignorant, and too religious.

Thank you. You just named the people who seek to destroy America by turning it into a totalitarian state. Pat Robertson and his clan have alot more in common with Osama Bin Ladin than they would like to admit.

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Originally posted by gouuryella Well there is nothing funny about that, I dont mind other lifestyles, lifestyles that make sense. I'm not like you, I dont believe in letting people do whatever they want, and things that can affect other peoples lives, such as in this case letting children watch porn.

And who are you to judge which lifestyle makes sense and which one does not?

But i dont belive in letting people do whatever they want, especialy things that can effect the lives of other people like for example just off the top of my head bombing abortion clinics, running around dressed in white hoodes with little holes for the eyes and burning crosses to keep jesus warm, teaching religion in science class, having sex with young boys...

I wonder what kind of people do those things and if they have anything in common?

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