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I don't get it. Why don't we let natural selection do its thing...

because its not natural?

species are dying because of humans careless, selfish actions

cause some people are dumb as fuck.


i can see how it's kinda dumb when we kill the species off, or like cause we kill t3h forest and then the animals move somewhere else and start killing eachother cause they are overcrouded.


if it's cause we are being jackasses, then it's good to try to preserve them.

but if it's in the case of the dodo birds, fuck em.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH because its not natural? species are dying because of humans careless, selfish actions

Maybe for things like whales... but sea turtles... cmon...

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Maybe for things like whales... but sea turtles... cmon...

why whales and not sea turtles?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH why whales and not sea turtles?

cause sea turtles called him fat

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH why whales and not sea turtles?

Well, whales have been hunted for a very long time for their oil for fuel and stuff. Japan has been killing 100's of whales per year still for "scientific research." I think that whales fill an important niche in their ecosystems and are not dying out because of their genetic material.

Sea turtles on the other hand seem to be weak! I said sea turtles because it was the first thing that came to mind, although I'm sure there are better examples. Sea turtles' eggs are laid on a beach. When the cute little turtles hatch they must melbourne shuffle their way to the ocean. Well on the way 99% of them get eaten... Preservationists try to protection them and such, but if a species can't survive on its own then I think we should let nature take its natural course.

I agree with what enferno said actually. Unless we are doing something that hurts the species we shouldn't really be concerned with its survival.

Sea turtles have been around for far longer than whales, and that just says something about their capacity to survive. They hatch alot of young to compensate for the ones that don't make it to water. If they're endangered now, it's most likely due to human intervention.

Doesn't matter. Replace sea turtles with *weak species*

Can you give me an example of such a "weak species"? The only one I can think of right now is humans. Physically one of the most fragile lifeforms on earth.

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Originally posted by Aquarian Can you give me an example of such a "weak species"? The only one I can think of right now is humans. Physically one of the most fragile lifeforms on earth.

salvia divinorum for example

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Originally posted by Sunsnail salvia divinorum for example

Oh Snail, you and your Salvia...

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Originally posted by DJ RJT Oh Snail, you and your Salvia...

I'm serious, the thing doesn't even produce viable seeds!

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Preservationists try to protection them and such, but if a species can't survive on its own then I think we should let nature take its natural course.

ok then i guess i agree with you. unless they animal is dying off because of our actions, then we should have no say in whether an animal survives or not. People who try to save species because they're dying by natures course, should themselves be killed because they're not really helping anyone. They're just throwing the eco-system off-balance

humans are down there with little fishes and stupid pigeons, eh? We must give bears the right to vote mister President! If not they will rise against us and it will be us that will be balancing on a ball wearing carnival hats!

i say we eliminate babies as a species.



as well as fat chicks who wear belly shirts.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH because its not natural? species are dying because of humans careless, selfish actions

Humans are nature's creation, therefore whatever we do is natural. Just like termites consume trees to build their homes, we consume everything to build and maintain ours' bc we are bigger, smarter (by my standards neways), and have nukes.

breeding restrictions need to apply to human beings. I propose that sex be banned for 10 years. Those who are found fornicating will be thrown into the firey pit of Vulfarang.

99 % of the species on earth are now extinct.. really in the big scheme of things it doesnt really matter. What we are doing is artificial selection, which is encouraging certain species to evolve quicker (dogs and other domesticated animals) and also by taking away territory from animals we're causing evolution trees to stop by quicker extinction.

Nature wasnt intended to proceed so quickly, its obvious that we are playing a huge role in the selection of species to evolve. In the grand scheme of things it doesnt really make a difference. But morally it should.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH ok then i guess i agree with you. unless they animal is dying off because of our actions, then we should have no say in whether an animal survives or not. People who try to save species because they're dying by natures course, should themselves be killed because they're not really helping anyone. They're just throwing the eco-system off-balance

your logic is flawed.. why dont we feel sorry for the T-rex.. awwwwww poor trex got hit by a huge comment ... well it serves him right for eating diplodocus

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit your logic is flawed.. why dont we feel sorry for the T-rex.. awwwwww poor trex got hit by a huge comment ... well it serves him right for eating diplodocus

clearly im joking here. Animals deserve the right to live and flourish.

i though my response deserved another response

Well...I guess I could try to diss you for saying "comment" instead of "comet". But would you really want that?

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit Nature wasnt intended to proceed so quickly, its obvious that we are playing a huge role in the selection of species to evolve.

What makes you such an expert on what nature was *intended* to proceed as, human?

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Originally posted by Aquarian Can you give me an example of such a "weak species"? The only one I can think of right now is humans. Physically one of the most fragile lifeforms on earth.

Yeah, humans are clearly the lowest form of life on the planet. Our exertion over the very life of everything on Earth is meaningless. The power to destroy is the power to control, so I guess that makes us fairly weak, huh?

We are strong because we have developed such cognitive prowess as to invent morality which inhibits this potential for wanton destruction more often than not. People in this thread rallying for animal protection are proof enough - what other species devotes large efforts towards the protection of other species? Koko and her kitten do not count.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Yeah, humans are clearly the lowest form of life on the planet. Our exertion over the very life of everything on Earth is meaningless. The power to destroy is the power to control, so I guess that makes us fairly weak, huh? We are strong because we have developed such cognitive prowess as to invent morality which inhibits this potential for wanton destruction more often than not. People in this thread rallying for animal protection are proof enough - what other species devotes large efforts towards the protection of other species? Koko and her kitten do not count.

He clearly said "Physically".

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