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Posted by PlayerLac on Jan-31-2006 05:44:

Too much bass = Big distraction?

So i'm playing at this party this past saturday, and the sound system I hooked my gear into was pretty nice, and the sub was really loud. I usually mix with the one ear, but my first transition came out so freakin bad! I couldn't get it beatmatched or anything! The bass was way too distracting. I ended up mixing with split cue all night (which i HATE). Anyway any tips you guys have for mixing with one ear when there is alot of bass?


Posted by Briden on Jan-31-2006 06:12:

crank the treble and mids in your cue track, makes it easier to hear.

just make sure you turn em down before mixing in!


Posted by DJ_Ikronix on Jan-31-2006 19:36:

Yeah, whenever I'm parked on a subwoofer, I have to mix inside headphones all night.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Mar-24-2006 21:58:

Re: Too much bass = Big distraction?

quote:
Originally posted by PlayerLac
So i'm playing at this party this past saturday, and the sound system I hooked my gear into was pretty nice, and the sub was really loud. I usually mix with the one ear, but my first transition came out so freakin bad! I couldn't get it beatmatched or anything! The bass was way too distracting. I ended up mixing with split cue all night (which i HATE). Anyway any tips you guys have for mixing with one ear when there is alot of bass?

One thing I learned with mixing is never completely rely on the bass beat to beatmatch.


Posted by Zild on Mar-24-2006 22:25:

Could you not hear the mids and highs? I don't quite understand what the problem would be. Was it delay?


Posted by DJ_Ikronix on Mar-25-2006 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Could you not hear the mids and highs? I don't quite understand what the problem would be. Was it delay?


It can be, but the problem I usually have is a resonant "pocket" of bass absolutely overwhelming everything else, including the monitor. It happens a lot when the subwoofers are placed under or directly in front of the DJ booth.


Posted by Zild on Mar-25-2006 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Ikronix
It can be, but the problem I usually have is a resonant "pocket" of bass absolutely overwhelming everything else, including the monitor. It happens a lot when the subwoofers are placed under or directly in front of the DJ booth.


Crazy. That sounds like a poor speaker installation.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Mar-25-2006 01:04:

Bet your levels were way out too...

Its the way with loud systems and poor monitors. Split cue is the best way really. i wouldnt recomment turning the mids and highs upp, cause thats a fast track way to tinitus. Not that DJing in general isnt anyway.


Posted by T-Soma on Mar-25-2006 04:09:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Ikronix
It can be, but the problem I usually have is a resonant "pocket" of bass absolutely overwhelming everything else, including the monitor. It happens a lot when the subwoofers are placed under or directly in front of the DJ booth.


I would be more worried about the turntables picking up the bass.
Good reason why you need to be able to cue in all the different ways and be able to do it comfortably.


Posted by Aquarian on Mar-25-2006 04:46:

I hate loud bass systems. Not just for mixing but for listening too. anyways.. My monitors at home are pretty bass-heavy, so I have to mix with both phones on and cranking up the monitor volume. :/


Posted by richg101 on Mar-25-2006 10:39:

if it was a house party, when you re setting up next time keep away from the corners of the room.. they are a real trouble spot with bass.

the bass was probably coming from a cheap underpowered bassbin. so it was boomy and uncontrolled, bouncing around the room before it got to your ears.

it sounds like there was a delay in the audio equipment aswell.. as in the music coming out of the headphones was ahead of the speakers.. always check both tracks are sync'd through the headphones while using both ears in headphones.. that usually helps with delay problems..


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Mar-25-2006 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
I hate loud bass systems. Not just for mixing but for listening too. anyways.. My monitors at home are pretty bass-heavy, so I have to mix with both phones on and cranking up the monitor volume. :/


Bass heavy systems own! Gotta love bass.


Posted by mylespower on Mar-25-2006 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Bass heavy systems own! Gotta love bass.




++++++++++++++++++1



mmmmmmmm bass


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Mar-26-2006 10:51:

yeeeup would have to agree you can never have too much bass....


Posted by T-Soma on Mar-26-2006 11:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Realm
yeeeup would have to agree you can never have too much bass....


Depends if you mean bass or crappy loud subwoofers that put out heaps of muddy base. I love bass but i hate muddy bass that makes the songs bassline sound like its a constant rumble of crap.


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Mar-26-2006 18:46:

then in that case, you have a point. But still, sooner that than just mid and high...


Posted by sirhiss on Mar-27-2006 12:21:

This is why you use monitors with a big PA.


Posted by n3lly on Mar-27-2006 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
Bet your levels were way out too...

Its the way with loud systems and poor monitors. Split cue is the best way really. i wouldnt recomment turning the mids and highs upp, cause thats a fast track way to tinitus. Not that DJing in general isnt anyway.


Exactly what i was thinking, something inside me always tries to stop me blasting out highs, and i hate dj's who raise the gains on parts of songs where there's only high freq's blasting out. It just DESTROYS your ears!

But anyway... i split cue beatmatch a lot. I'll have one ear on the cue and listen to the song being played out with the other, then just to check everythings alright i'll split cue and slap the other ear on to hear both tracks playing. To make sure it sounds good both ways.. (if i'm having trouble with two particular tracks)

nelly


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Mar-27-2006 22:13:

i was in this club once, and the dj kept filtering like mad. resonance right up there too. just sounding like a f1 car pulling a hand brake turn.

ear destroying



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