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Posted by elektrikal on Jan-31-2006 07:13:

Strength of US Men's Football/Soccer??

I will use the word football but for Americans I mean soccer. US beat a weak Norway team the other day 5-0 in a friendly with some of the better US players playing for European clubs.

I have not been keeping up with football lately but for World Cup, is England the current favorite or is Brazil the default favorite? Whoever it is I can't wait for it to start. I was in Germany over the winter and saw slight signs around the country of the World Cup preparations and was sad I will not be there for the tournament.

I honestly think the World Cup blows the crappy Super Bowl out of the water. I realize being an American I am a minority in this regards but when talking world champions, Superbowl is still an American affair though other countries may watch, but World Cup is the most awesome sporting spectacle, or a close second to the Summer Olympics (Winter Olympics are weak haha).


Posted by nchs09 on Jan-31-2006 07:16:

Re: Strength of US Men's Football/Soccer??

quote:
Originally posted by elektrikal


I honestly think the World Cup blows the crappy Super Bowl out of the water.
what a good american.


ya the US team is strong there is no doubt about it, but i dooubt they will make it far... aka to the finals since well ... to be honest i dunno why. i dont think they have such a solid team... shure they are good but under pressure i think they will fail. but yes they are good.

and i would say argentina or brazil are the strong fav? maybe holland as well


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jan-31-2006 07:52:

fastmp3 i beg you to lock this stupid thread.

nachos shut up the fav are brazil not Holland and Argentina

The world cup is so much better than that other thing you said I wont even name it these 2 events shouldnt be in the same sentence........

Im glad you think the US team is good which they are but they wont beat Italy or the Czechs but whoknows they can look to Greece for some determination. I hate the US "soccer" team and always will. Sorry but fuck them


Posted by sensorium on Jan-31-2006 08:26:

Re: Strength of US Men's Football/Soccer??

quote:
Originally posted by elektrikal
I will use the word football but for Americans I mean soccer. US beat a weak Norway team the other day 5-0 in a friendly with some of the better US players playing for European clubs.

I have not been keeping up with football lately but for World Cup, is England the current favorite or is Brazil the default favorite? Whoever it is I can't wait for it to start. I was in Germany over the winter and saw slight signs around the country of the World Cup preparations and was sad I will not be there for the tournament.

I honestly think the World Cup blows the crappy Super Bowl out of the water. I realize being an American I am a minority in this regards but when talking world champions, Superbowl is still an American affair though other countries may watch, but World Cup is the most awesome sporting spectacle, or a close second to the Summer Olympics (Winter Olympics are weak haha).


Norway was not a good opponent. Mexico beat them with their bench too, 2-1. Close match and physical. Let's be honest, boring as hell as well.

Anyway, I saw part of the US vs Norway match. I still don't like their style. So I switched the channel. My guess is Norway wasn't that motivated during these friendly matches. Norway is not preparing for the WC and no real effort is put in.

I really don't know how they, US of A, will perform in the WC. They are in a difficult group. As I've said before, my guess is Czech Republic and Italy will go on to the second round and the US won't.

And the World Cup is not second to the Summer Olympics or anything else. No offense to the other events and sports but football is the most beautiful of sports and the WC will remain the number one event forever, even when men play against robots. Period.


Posted by denys envy on Jan-31-2006 18:43:

i don't know why we haven't learned from past WCs, none of the favorites make it past quarterfinals and Brazil always wins. end of conversation.

US might scrape through to the 2nd round. People give Italy and Czechs too much credit - football is very well rounded these days, Italy is a good bet to fuck something up with their squad collection and the Czechs are getting old themselves.


Posted by zoric on Jan-31-2006 18:51:

Zimbabwe is better than USA


Posted by halexander837 on Jan-31-2006 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
fastmp3 i beg you to lock this stupid thread.

nachos shut up the fav are brazil not Holland and Argentina


Whatever... im stickin with my Dutch faithfuls so you can kiss my ass!


Posted by InterMilan31 on Jan-31-2006 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by halexander837
Whatever... im stickin with my Dutch faithfuls so you can kiss my ass!


i believe your first post in a football topic is a retarted one congrats


Posted by Eddie N MIAMI on Jan-31-2006 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by zoric
Zimbabwe is better than USA

lol I dont remember you were in there when Butters was talkin bout that matchup lol.

alot of good points here in this thread, personally im tired of defending the USA national team, alot of you know how I feel already.Dont mind Ben, he hates the U.S national team as much as I hate Argentinas.
gay Juve,Chelsea Loving fantasy sports homie Aristronica is right , the Czech Rep. may not be the same team we saw in the Euros, 2nd place will between them and USA in that group.



quote:
Originally posted by irectum
And the World Cup is not second to the Summer Olympics or anything else. No offense to the other events and sports but football is the most beautiful of sports and the WC will remain the number one event forever, even when men play against robots. Period.

That was Beautiful man *tear*


Posted by halexander837 on Feb-01-2006 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
i believe your first post in a football topic is a retarted one congrats




Posted by flavdave on Feb-01-2006 23:27:

The US will make it to the second round. Guaranteed.


Posted by Kapedano on Feb-02-2006 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
The US will make it to the second round. Guaranteed.


I think so too .

Although everyone thinks they are crap and wont do anything, they will go under the radar. I mean, its a 50-50 chance..but they can do it.


Posted by hardstyle on Feb-02-2006 01:38:

lol

good luck making it to the second round


Posted by sensorium on Feb-02-2006 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
The US will make it to the second round. Guaranteed.


I'd be surprised.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Feb-02-2006 04:48:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
The US will make it to the second round. Guaranteed.


spoken like a true footy n00b...please all you americans who probably havent watched a full 90 minutes or have heard of anyone besides Beckham and Ronaldo dont speak on this issue


Posted by flavdave on Feb-02-2006 06:59:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
spoken like a true footy n00b...please all you americans who probably havent watched a full 90 minutes or have heard of anyone besides Beckham and Ronaldo dont speak on this issue


Well looks like I'm allowed to speak on this issue then. The US has a great team and we are capable of winning big games (beating Portugal and Mexico in the WC2002, winning the Gold Cup in 2005). I also know the Italians are perennial underachievers and they're certainly not a lock for the second round like most people have been saying.


Posted by Az on Feb-02-2006 07:24:

although they always fail miserably, you can never overlook the dutch
I'm hoping for an england victory, 40 years on, and in Germany
it would be sweet as fuck


Posted by zoric on Feb-02-2006 10:53:

I'm pretty sure Italy wants revenge since they got knocked out by Sweden and Denmark in the Euro 2004. They underachieved against teams like Sweden and Denmark, but you can't win a match if you don't score on all chances you've got. Also, Italy has got some players in topform atm and I think even though Totti played like shit and no matter how much I hate him at Roma, I'm sure he will play really good if he's fit..


Posted by halexander837 on Feb-02-2006 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Jantjeuh
True, we will probably play some awesome football and then go out in the semi's on penalties.. as usual



Posted by InterMilan31 on Feb-02-2006 16:36:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
Well looks like I'm allowed to speak on this issue then. The US has a great team and we are capable of winning big games (beating Portugal and Mexico in the WC2002, winning the Gold Cup in 2005). I also know the Italians are perennial underachievers and they're certainly not a lock for the second round like most people have been saying.


The gold cup shut up


Posted by zoric on Feb-02-2006 16:46:

Who did they meet in the final of Gold Cup?!

El Salvador or Mexico?


Posted by hardstyle on Feb-03-2006 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by zoric
Who did they meet in the final of Gold Cup?!

El Salvador or Mexico?


it was some bullock team El Salvador in penality shoot out

And the 2002 world cup game against Portugal , if the game would have 15 mins extra portugal would beat the U S OF A 4-3 lol

Us national team had a very good luck against Portugal and also Portugal went against the Americans thinkin that they can beat them .

Yeah United States surely will beat Italy and Check republic, in they dream


Posted by noikeee on Feb-03-2006 02:11:

People, Ghana exists too and is fairly above Angola, Togo and Trinidad's level. It'd be a surprise if they went through, but don't write them off completely.

I want the Czechs to go far but i can't picture them keeping the Euro's level for a long time..

As for US, i'm thinking they don't have much chances at all to reach say a semi-final but could go through in the group.


Posted by Member of X on Feb-03-2006 05:02:

I see the Italy playing virgin tight defense and pretty much boring the fawk out of me like they normally do and losing to my beloved countrymen 0-1. Perhaps a tie. The Czech's though will beat USA. I see a very close nailbiter against Ghana but in the end, a U.S. victory.

This will give the U.S. the 2nd seed. Which would set them up against Brazil. Brazil will stomp the shiate out of them. Still.. I'd be happy to make it past the very tough group.

I think the U.S. is strong but not ever vying for any real trophies in the next 20 years. Maybe pushing the top 8 again. They have obviously improved over the last 12 years but I'm not too sure how far they can take it with a lot of disinterest in this country.

But I got your back Eddie, another U.S. supporter here!


Posted by InterMilan31 on Feb-03-2006 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
I see the Italy playing virgin tight defense and pretty much boring the fawk out of me like they normally do and losing to my beloved countrymen 0-1. Perhaps a tie. The Czech's though will beat USA. I see a very close nailbiter against Ghana but in the end, a U.S. victory.

This will give the U.S. the 2nd seed. Which would set them up against Brazil. Brazil will stomp the shiate out of them. Still.. I'd be happy to make it past the very tough group.

I think the U.S. is strong but not ever vying for any real trophies in the next 20 years. Maybe pushing the top 8 again. They have obviously improved over the last 12 years but I'm not too sure how far they can take it with a lot of disinterest in this country.

But I got your back Eddie, another U.S. supporter here!


Pff why are you all discounting the Italians?? Not only have they won it 3 times but the last time they havent gotten past the group stage was in 1974...Ghana too is tough also. I think the toughest opponent in the group are the Italians. The czech's are good but Nedved may not play and is past his old form which was the driving force for the Czechs. They still have Cech but without another Baros exploding Euro they will have trobule. Ghana is good but lacks depth. The USA can easy get past this group but it will be at expense of the other 2 not the Italians.

But all American n00b "soccer" fans yeah dude should go fuck off and Eddie wouldnt say shit if Colombia actually was good and represented for the rest of his continent like I do (ANYONE BUT BRAZIL )


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