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What is Trance to YOU?
Everyone seems to have there own idea of what Trance is. Tell me in detail how you know the difference between Trance and other types of electronic music. The beats, the melodies, vocals? What makes it "trance"?
It's the emotion I think !
beautiful melodies with awesome synth sound ! some melodies in Trance can be the theme of a great movie (like armageddon, titanic...) really ! here comes a list of tunes with the best melodies I ever heard :
RANK 1 "airwave"
YAHEL "devotion" (ARMIN VAN BUUREN REMIX)
GAIA "4 elements"
WILLIAM ORBIT "barber's adagio for strings" (FERRY CORSTEN REMIX)
NORMAN DJ "go back"
FIRE & ICE "souvenir de Chine"
and a lot more !
regards
DUMONDEFAN
Don't Rush!!!
You will UNDERSTAND the difference once you listen to them and get to know them.... definitions and words won't do much!
Trance is for me a rather fast music with nice catching synths, a pushing beat and eventually nice soft vocals. Something that lifts me up. But not always. I'd say trance is a music that makes me thinking. Thinking about nature, freedom, love, peace, happiness...
Some tracks for example, that are trance for me (except those in my sig):
Talla 2XLC - Alaska (Cyrus & The Joker mix)
Svenson & Gielen - Twisted (Svenson & Gielen Energy Mix)
Push - Universal Nation
York - Reachers Of Civilisation (Rank 1 Remix)
Beam & Yanou - The Free Fall
a.m.m.
it's a state of mind
it's emotion, it's energy, it's happiness, it's sadness, it's a way to drive your parents and neighbours crazy, it makes you forget about all the bad things in life, it makes you smile, it's FANTASTIC
now a little bit more technical.
Repeating the same melody over and over again untill you get into trance.
That's one of the basic rules of trance
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| Originally posted by djcresto now a little bit more technical. Repeating the same melody over and over again untill you get into trance. That's one of the basic rules of trance |
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| Originally posted by 4TranceNdetroit I am wanting to know what you all think is the difference between trance and techno for example. |
10 DJs/producers who I think are ultimate in trance music. hhmmm its hard one cos a lot of people have contributed to it, but I can name a few who I personally think are ultimate and have pioneered.
Uplifting/Epic
Tiesto
Armin Van Burren
Ferry Corsten
John '00' Flemming
Taucher
Melodic Trance
Paul Van Dyk
Paul Oakenfold
Max Graham (could be classed as Progressive trance)
Hard Trance
Talla 2xlc
Kai Tracid
DJ Scot Project
SHOKK
Dumonde
Tech Trance
Mauro Picotto
Tillman Urmacher
Mario Piu
Progressive Trance
Nick Warren
Sander Klienenberg
Sasha and Digweed (more their oldish stuff)
Breakbeaty Trance (weird stuff)
BT
Timo Maas (even though I don't think his god like loads of people in the UK do, he's contributed loads)
Hope that Helps
And by the way if anyones got a problem this is not an official list its my view of who I thinks contributed and pioneered
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| Originally posted by Piet If you listen to techno, it so monotone so then you really would need drugs to enjoy it. -DJ Tiesto |
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| Originally posted by djcresto it's a state of mind it's emotion, it's energy, it's happiness, it's sadness, it's a way to drive your parents and neighbours crazy, it makes you forget about all the bad things in life, it makes you smile, it's FANTASTIC |
To answer your question 4trancendetroit, there are a few technical things that I've noticed that makes trance what it is.
Harmony - Trance is a genre that usually has some sort of chord progression that is repeated over and over (This and rhythm and timbre usually make or break a song for me).
Melody - Whether it is in the synths or in female vocals, trance usually has some sort of melodic pattern that is repeated.
Rhythm - Trance is always in 4 and the musical phrases are usually 8 bars long (you can always tell an experienced dj from an inexperienced one because of how they mix with the phrases). The tempo is usually from anywhere between 129-145 bpm
Timbre/Sound - Trance has that synth sound that is unique. There is also lots of playing with timbre in trance (it's when you notice the sound changing from something that is really trebly and clear, to one that fades into some more dark and muddled)
But the last thing that many TA's have already said is the emotion in the music that makes trance such a great genre....the ability to deconstruct and reconstuct to recreate through music the feeling of journey is something that few genre's of music can claim to have. I'll stop blabbing now. Hope this helps you out in understanding of trance.
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| Originally posted by DUMONDEFAN It's the emotion I think ! beautiful melodies with awesome synth sound ! some melodies in Trance can be the theme of a great movie (like armageddon, titanic...) really ! here comes a list of tunes with the best melodies I ever heard : RANK 1 "airwave" YAHEL "devotion" (ARMIN VAN BUUREN REMIX) GAIA "4 elements" WILLIAM ORBIT "barber's adagio for strings" (FERRY CORSTEN REMIX) NORMAN DJ "go back" FIRE & ICE "souvenir de Chine" and a lot more ! regards DUMONDEFAN |
ANd now for something a bit more technical. 
Trance is structured in sequences that are 8 bars of 4 beats long (32 beats) Every 32 beats a new sequence of synth comes in. By the breakdown, there will be such a harmony of noise that should theoretically put u in a trance. THe next time you listen to a track, see how many diferent layers of sound you can pick out.
The actual melodies in trance are many. There is the bassline melody which is a simple musical sequence, and the main melody which usually fits into the bassline quite easuly. Even if the melody is composed of a complicated apreggiated riff, the first note of that will fit into the bassline. ANd then ther are the ornaments, which contribute to the melody, although aren't really part of it. I mean "Wooshes,voice samples" sounds.
As I've been playing music, and listening to trance a long time, I can tell how the bassline or melody is going to go even if I've never heard the tune before. THey follow basic musical rules, whih I learnt when I was about 10!
However, no musical rule can define what a person feels in a breakdown, and only yourself can interpret that.
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| Originally posted by Piet If you listen to techno, it so monotone so then you really would need drugs to enjoy it. -DJ Tiesto |
Well trance is such a big area these days with so many sub genres like O'Callaghan's listed. There are, however, a few characteristics that tie them all together, I'll have a go at listing them for you ...
1. Trance is always a four-to-the-floor beat, typically varying from 120 to 150 BPM. This is, coincidentally, around about the heartbeat rate of an unborn child. That is the reason why it does something subliminal to adult humans which we still don't quite understand, it is the sweet spot for getting people into a euphoric "trance" like state anyways 
2. The song structure - this is quite distinctive with trance. It starts off with a simple beat for a half minute or so (this is so a DJ can easily mix the song into the last one he's playing). Then they'll either drop the bass or start bringing in the main melodic hook. Either way a number of riff- or rhythm- based elements will be gradually worked into the song, all fitting around the main repetitive riff. At some stage about half or 2/3 of the way through the song, there's likely to be a breakdown - this is where the beat will stop, and you'll be left with a sort of hanging-in-space feeling with just one or two instruments or vocals continuing to play. This will continue for as long as the producer wants it to, and then there's what's known as a buildup - where they start reintroducing the rhythm, and it often builds to a crescendo or drum roll before the main beat returns. The main body of the song then continues until it ends with some simpler elements right at the end, where your conscientious DJ is supposed to be seamlessly mixing in the next track
Not all trance has breakdowns and buildups, but just about all songs that have breakdowns are trance, if you see what I mean.
3. It's different from many other forms of dance music in that it's almost entirely based on electronic sounds. Typically the sound of old, analog synthesizers. You won't hear, for example, a lot of brass and horn stabs like you would with house music. Old style drum machines like the Roland 303, big phat analog bass, synth and pad riffs and breathy, female vocals are the building blocks of most trance. (Before anyone flames me, sure I know there are exceptions to this, like particularly some of the fluffier uplifting stuff has strings in the breakdown etc, but I'm talking generalities.)
4. It is indeed fairly repetitive (like a foetal heart beat in fact), because that's the easiest way to induce the emotional response that all good trance should have.
5. Almost any of the above rules can be ignored by the DJ as long as he brings about the desired effect in his listeners ... a state of 'trance' ... not hypnotic-staring-into-space trance but that euphoric feeling of being lost in the music, and swept along on a wave of emotion ... hell I don't need to describe this, you guys all know what I'm talking about I'm sure.
Hope some of that helps, and I wish you all many pleasant voyages in trance
Dry facts that should differ trance from other electronic genres (Structure's been mentioned so I won't detail 2 much)-
First of FIRST of first of all-
The leading effects are high effects or cold if you will, even if there is a dominant mighty cool bass, the focus is still on high elements and bass is at most cases the only low repetitive sound.
That would be a big difference between Trance and House or Techno.
BPM can vary from 120 BPM to 160 BPM or around, where I think it becomes Drum n' Bass... Some psychadelic (goa) might surpass 160 but that would be RARE. Although house and Techno are typically 125 BPM, you would know the difference when a slow trance track's playing.
Most patterns except the basic hihats or drums would stretch for at least 2 or 4 beats. Techno usually is loaed with 1 beat patterns.
There is almost allways a developement in track while you go and as mentioned- rarely there isn't a break in a trance track, whether there are 2 choruses or 1.
Which brings me to trance's greatest feature:::
PAY-OFF: Other electronics ussually do not have that part where there is a totally different leading instrument, and you feel a chill, and then there like an explosion of emotions in sound!
Trance rulez...
These differences are mostly the properties of "White" or "Clear" music as opposed to "Black" or "Dirty" music.
CyA...
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| Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan 10 DJs/producers who I think are ultimate in trance music. hhmmm its hard one cos a lot of people have contributed to it, but I can name a few who I personally think are ultimate and have pioneered. Uplifting/Epic Tiesto Armin Van Burren Ferry Corsten John '00' Flemming Taucher Melodic Trance Paul Van Dyk Paul Oakenfold Max Graham (could be classed as Progressive trance) Hard Trance Talla 2xlc Kai Tracid DJ Scot Project SHOKK Dumonde Tech Trance Mauro Picotto Tillman Urmacher Mario Piu Progressive Trance Nick Warren Sander Klienenberg Sasha and Digweed (more their oldish stuff) |
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