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Posted by etazbaz on Feb-03-2006 04:18:

Just got my first dj gear!

Hey guys,
I just got my cdj200s and dn-x300 today. this whole beat matching thing is driving me crazy. it is so much fun yet so frustrating all at the same time. i guess i better get back to practicing.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Feb-03-2006 04:19:

good luck and post pics in the bedroom pics thread


Posted by s3nate on Feb-03-2006 05:32:

Congrats!

It took me 3 days to learn how to beatmatch


Posted by Allied Nations on Feb-03-2006 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Congrats!

It took me 3 days to learn how to beatmatch




Insert gold star here:_______


Posted by Spirit5 on Feb-03-2006 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Congrats!

It took me 3 days to learn how to beatmatch


It took me 3 years! , i'm still learning....need to get recording so I know what the hell i'm doing and if I am doing it right....waiting for monitors so I can hear what I am recording well, other than on my headphones....prolly should have just gotten the CDJ 200s, I have the 1000s! . I've been mixing since I was 16, but it was only in the past 3 years that I learned with TTs and now with CDJs, so uh i'm still very much a "newbie".


Posted by Allied Nations on Feb-03-2006 05:38:

Oh and learning how to beatmatch is one thing. Conceptually its fairly easy. But nailing every mix and knowing what records to mix is a whole other ballgame, dont even try to tell me you mastered that in a week or some nonsene..


Djing isnt something you just know or don't know. Its a constant learning experience. Every time i get on the decks something is different and im always evolving a little bit each time.

Of course its easier to measure your progress when you suck (start off) but i think most of us find we are always learning things.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Feb-03-2006 06:08:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Congrats!

It took me 3 days to learn how to beatmatch


and the winner of biggest bullshit of 2006 goes to....s3nate

hear to accept the award for him is InterMilan31...s3nate would like to thank all the idiotic sayings due to be said in 2006 as they will never compare to his 3 days to beatmatch quote. Cheers


Posted by s3nate on Feb-03-2006 06:30:

Not kidding it took me 3 days to figure out beatmatching... its not perfect yet but I got it down.

Hmm I see this turning into a flame fest.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Feb-03-2006 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Not kidding it took me 3 days to figure out beatmatching... its not perfect yet but I got it down.

Hmm I see this turning into a flame fest.


not flamming sounds rather impossible and it seems your retracting your orig state ment abit by saying its not perfected yet. beatmatching is very hard especially when your not caring about other things when learning (EQ's Effects Levels etc)


Posted by Omega_Blue on Feb-03-2006 09:16:

this thread just got hilarious

obviously he's talking out of his ass a bit, but it didn't take me that long to learn the basics of beatmatching either, as i'm sure it didn't take the majority of you guys too long to figure it out yourselves.

..maybe he practiced non-stop for 72 hours straight?


Posted by T-Soma on Feb-03-2006 09:34:

After using dj software for about 1 year it only took me a few days to learn how to beatmatch using TTs.


Posted by ivanbee on Feb-03-2006 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
Congrats!

It took me 3 days to learn how to beatmatch

liar!


Posted by stefanoc on Feb-03-2006 16:25:

it took me about an hour to mix the 2 songs together for the first time.

congrats on your new gear and enjoy


Posted by Basstard on Feb-03-2006 16:40:

it took me 3 days to figure out it was ok to put your hands on the record while it was on the turntable.

it was fun trying to cue a record by pressing the start button on a stanton str8-60


Posted by etazbaz on Feb-03-2006 18:57:

after you beat match say a 139bpm track to a 136bpm track. you have lowered the new track by 3bpm, do you throughout the course of the new track raise the tempo back to the native bpm of the track? cause eventually you will run out of headroom if you keep messing with the tempo if it is not set to 0% to begin with. i dont have my tracks coded with bpm info, but sometimes i just want to play a certain choon regardless of the bpm just because i think it complements the current track nicely.


Posted by justin on Feb-03-2006 19:33:

I started off collecting as many burned cds of techno I could find. Napster is how I was introduced to EDM and then I started taking a personal interest in a specific genre, trance. wasn't long before my collection was well over 100 cds that I joined the Marine corps and moved to Okinawa japan, but that didn't stop me. I beagn clubbing there at twenty years of age in late 2001 and my favorite part of clubbing was watching the dj intently , learning everything i could just by watching. Meanwhile my cd collection of trance and other genres was getting bigger and bigger and I finally had enough money to get some equipment. So I started off with a pair of Pioneer cdjs and a DJM 500, mixing together all my favorite tracks and recording onto the only media I could come up with, tapes. I really taught myself alot of what i originally learned on those cdjs, which I still have, but they don't work worth a shit anymore. Eventually I came across a steal of a deal in the newspaper on a set of technic MK2s for 400 dollars, some hip hop dj was calling it quits so I was up on that deal faster than you can say "Sheeeeit!" so now that I had turntables it was time to start buying vinyl.... a whole new world was opened up to me, but a lot of what I learned form the cdjs i was able to apply to vinyl mixing methods, but even though I practiced everyday and notice significant improvement I still didn't know a damn thing about counting beats. Thats when i meant DJ Glimpse who was my first mentor who for three months before I left Okinawa taught me all the fundamentals in mixing like conting beats. I began getting much better and after I started buying vinyl i noticed I began to poject a particular style rather than just mixing a bunch of ccopiled dj mix cds together. Ever since then I've learned things here and there but its been four years now and there is still room for improvement, so practice, practice, practice!!!


Posted by sr126 on Feb-03-2006 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by etazbaz
after you beat match say a 139bpm track to a 136bpm track. you have lowered the new track by 3bpm, do you throughout the course of the new track raise the tempo back to the native bpm of the track? cause eventually you will run out of headroom if you keep messing with the tempo if it is not set to 0% to begin with. i dont have my tracks coded with bpm info, but sometimes i just want to play a certain choon regardless of the bpm just because i think it complements the current track nicely.


i don't return tracks to zero. if i had to pitch a track @ -4 to be able to mix it. then it will stay at -4 for the duration of the song. personally, i think it would sound wierd if the tempo is constantly wavering through out a mix.


Posted by sleepydragon on Feb-03-2006 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by sr126
i don't return tracks to zero. if i had to pitch a track @ -4 to be able to mix it. then it will stay at -4 for the duration of the song. personally, i think it would sound wierd if the tempo is constantly wavering through out a mix.


the thing is though if u never change the tempo of the track playing u will play ur entire set at the same bpm.
Theres nothing wrong with changing the tempo while a track is playing u cant tell ur changing it if u move it slowly anyway


Posted by sr126 on Feb-04-2006 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
the thing is though if u never change the tempo of the track playing u will play ur entire set at the same bpm.
Theres nothing wrong with changing the tempo while a track is playing u cant tell ur changing it if u move it slowly anyway


of course there isn't anything wrong, w/nudging records a little bit to increase the overall tempo of a set.

i was trying to answer his question about playing tracks at their native bpm after the blend. i usually play deep house. i have tracks that are about 110 bpm, others that closer to 130. i think would sound odd if tempo is changing that much, and going back and fourth during a course of set, especially if every song = a tempo change. if one track is playing at 0% @ 115bpm, the next track is at -7 to mix at 115bpm. finish the blend, then add the +7. the track after that is playing +6 to match the record that is playing at 0 (was @ -7) then go -6 to get it to zero... and repeat this over the entire length of your set. i don't think that would sound right.

starting at 115, then ending a couple hours later at 125bpm, ok. but a constant speeding and slowing... nep, i don't think so.


Posted by skot_e on Feb-04-2006 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by etazbaz
cause eventually you will run out of headroom if you keep messing with the tempo if it is not set to 0%


Headroom??? Not sure what you mean here, headroom relates to sound levels before the onset of clipping.

quote:
Originally posted by sr126 starting at 115, then ending a couple hours later at 125bpm, ok. but a constant speeding and slowing... nep, i don't think so.


Agreed.

I bought 1200's in Jan 92 and I am still learning.
Only just started looking into harmonic mixing over the new year.


Posted by punjabi on Feb-04-2006 06:55:

congrats on getting good starting gear, unlike most people.


Posted by skot_e on Feb-04-2006 07:04:

quote:
Originally posted by punjabi
congrats on getting good starting gear, unlike most people.


Wasn't really an option back then. They are cheaper today too. Even with inflation.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Feb-04-2006 08:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
it took me 3 days to figure out it was ok to put your hands on the record while it was on the turntable.

it was fun trying to cue a record by pressing the start button on a stanton str8-60


at first, i used to cue the record by holding the platter instead of the record



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