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Posted by dittoalex on Feb-03-2006 14:52:

Sad Anyone here a US/Canada border Immigration Officer?

The government just screwed me over and I won't be able to make it to The Guvernment for Ultra Spin 9.

My American green card is expired, though I am in the process of renewing it - all I have is a receipt; no I-90. I don't have a passport or another form of proof of status.

My green card and my US Driver's License is all I would need to show when going through the border checkpoints. The US -> Canada checkpoint was always super-easy, but coming back into the US was always much harder. They would always stop us, ask all the passengers questions (how we knew each other, etc...), search our car, etc...

It looks like unless I want to be stuck at the border for a few hours/days/months and cavity-searched, I'm going to miss out on this party .


Posted by Abercrombie on Feb-03-2006 15:48:

I've seriously passed through the border several hundred times.

My biggest advice is, dress respectably, and answer all the questions honestly, and don't hesitate in any response. Answer with respect, and be willing. If you are riding with others, same for them. Never give them a hard time. Weeding out illegals that don't fit a hazardous profile is a smaller fish they're after. Bring all possible ID you have, including phone bills, etc. The more you are willing to show, the less they're think you'er hiding something.


Oh... if you show up sketchy on your way, looking like candy-ravers, you're going to secondary.


Posted by tatgirl on Feb-03-2006 16:24:

Don't bother crossing the border- its not worth deportation for a damn party. If its anything like Canada, you need the documentation, not some receipt, or your word that papers are in motion. My fiance had to stay put here over X-mas, while I went on to the US, cuz he was waiting on paperwork. Even I got refused once coming back to Canada, where I've lived for 6 yrs, cuz my paper had expired, and they didn't have record of any renewal. As long as you stay put in your country and paperwork is in motion, you're able to stay. Once you cross the border, you risk throwing the whole application process away.

ITS NOT WORTH IT.

Come for the next party.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Feb-03-2006 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
ITS NOT WORTH IT.


Posted by CAKE on Feb-03-2006 17:59:

speaking of boarder hoping do i need a passport to go to the states?
i'm a canadian citizen and my polish passport expierd, and my drivers licence picture is scratched off, i have my citizen card though and a new health card with a picture is that enough? or should i get a canadian passport


Posted by tatgirl on Feb-03-2006 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Djsketchbag
speaking of boarder hoping do i need a passport to go to the states?
i'm a canadian citizen and my polish passport expierd, and my drivers licence picture is scratched off, i have my citizen card though and a new health card with a picture is that enough? or should i get a canadian passport


Yes, you'll need a passport. With those ^ credentials, you're just asking for trouble....


Posted by Abercrombie on Feb-03-2006 18:09:

I have a Canadian citizenship card too, and that with your healthcard, should be OK minimum. Always have your cit card with you, it's minimum. They will ask you where you are born, cuz your passport says that, but not the card. Don't even mention your expired Polish ppt. Don't show your scratched DL, cuz it's a sign of fraud.

NEVER BE NERVOUS. otherwise you're pierdol'd.


Posted by tatgirl on Feb-03-2006 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Djsketchbag
speaking of boarder hoping do i need a passport to go to the states?
i'm a canadian citizen and my polish passport expierd, and my drivers licence picture is scratched off, i have my citizen card though and a new health card with a picture is that enough? or should i get a canadian passport


if I were you, i'd go to a Ministry of Transportation kiosk in a nearby mall (check for listings) and request a new copy of your drivers license. Bring your old one in to do it. You should have an ID that shows your pic properly.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Feb-03-2006 18:35:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
ITS NOT WORTH IT.

Come for the next party.


+1

Don't worry, we tend to throw more parties...


Posted by Allegory on Feb-03-2006 18:42:

I agree with Tatgirl and firestarter. I forgot my student visa at home in Canada about 12 year ago when I was going to back to school in vermont. they held me at the american border for the whole day, even after talking to my mom and my school. and this was way before tightened security.

it's not worth it. we always have wicked parties. Be patient.


Posted by AfterHours27 on Feb-03-2006 18:45:

The border guards are the rudest people I've ever seen in my life. They definitely abuse their authority......talk to you as if you are some piece of shit.


Posted by Chris Allen on Feb-03-2006 18:52:

quote:
Originally posted by AfterHours27
The border guards are the rudest people I've ever seen in my life. They definitely abuse their authority......talk to you as if you are some piece of shit.


And thank goodness they're around or we'd have more people in the country blowing shit up and in turn having you complain that border patrol wasn't safe and secure enough.

They do what they are paid to do, and they do it well. If you don't give them any trouble, things should be fine. Would you want their job? They have to be alert on every single car they let through.

I've never once had a problem in all the years I've been going back and forth to the US. Not one, single problem, at all.


Posted by dittoalex on Feb-03-2006 19:12:

Looks like I'll be missing Ultra Spin 9 and Together As One. Which is okay, because Above and Beyond and The Prodigy popped up. This way I'll be able to not go TOO broke.

Decadence III better be a blast. Oh, I know it will. Armin again .

Parties I will be attending:

Jan 21 - FRESH, Cleveland (DONE!)

Jan 27 - Kenneth Thomas, Cleveland (DONE!)

Jan 28 - Kenneth Thomas Afterparty, Cleveland (CANCELLED)

Feb 04 - Ultra Spin 9, Toronto [GOVERNMENT SAYS I'M NOT ALLOWED IN CANADA ]

Feb 11 - Together As One 2005, Toronto [GOVERNMENT SAYS I'M NOT ALLOWED IN CANADA ]

Feb 24 - Christopher Lawrence, Cleveland

Mar 10 - Ferry Corsten, Cleveland

Mar 21 - The Prodigy + Adam Freeland, Toronto

Mar 25 - Return of the Junglist, Cleveland

Apr 13 - Decadance III, Toronto

Apr 28 - Infusion, Cleveland

Apr 29 - Above and Beyond, Toronto

May 07 - Glow 2.0, Cleveland


Posted by CAKE on Feb-03-2006 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
Yes, you'll need a passport. With those ^ credentials, you're just asking for trouble....


yeah i think i should just get my candian passport done or renew my polish one


Posted by Jayx1 on Feb-03-2006 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
Yes, you'll need a passport. With those ^ credentials, you're just asking for trouble....


citizen card with picture ID should be enough.

What they ask for is proof of citizenship and your card is that.


Posted by ghetto_fab on Feb-04-2006 00:00:

I have never presented a passport at the immagrations. Justs drivers licence and birth certificate


Posted by harcourt on Feb-04-2006 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by AfterHours27
The border guards are the rudest people I've ever seen in my life. They definitely abuse their authority......talk to you as if you are some piece of shit.


All depends on who you talk to, they're not all like that.


Posted by monishb on Feb-04-2006 16:04:

not worth it for a party..

come next time when u get a chance


Posted by Porky on Feb-04-2006 19:18:

as a Canadian citizen, working in the USA from 1999 - 2003, i've been through the border numererous times (drove from chicago to Toronto roundtrip at least 30 times).

all i have to say is that pre-911, everything was alot easier. after 9-11 they've really cracked down and made it alot harder to travel.

canadian immigration officers are alot more forgiving to canadians (not sure about americans).

with my TN1 visa i usually breezed through US customs, but after 9-11 it took a bit more time.


anybody with work related visa questions lemme know, i'm an expert!


Posted by ali92 on Feb-04-2006 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Porky
as a Canadian citizen, working in the USA from 1999 - 2003, i've been through the border numererous times (drove from chicago to Toronto roundtrip at least 30 times).

all i have to say is that pre-911, everything was alot easier. after 9-11 they've really cracked down and made it alot harder to travel.

canadian immigration officers are alot more forgiving to canadians (not sure about americans).

with my TN1 visa i usually breezed through US customs, but after 9-11 it took a bit more time.


anybody with work related visa questions lemme know, i'm an expert!
OK. Here's one of mine:

I applied to Concordia University (Montreal) as a transfer student, from the US (currently attend Peirce College here), on 3 January 2006. Assumeing they received all my previous educational documentation they needed to complete the registration process, what else would be needed before I need to go on to get the visa(s) and _how long will it take for me to get these visa(s) if I am to start in the autumn 2006 semester_?

Concordia also mentions I need an income that is _not_ part-time, but I didn't think this was possible if you are in Canada on a student visa. That really confuses me. I'm getting my FAFSA (US federal financial aid, they have Concordia Univ in Montreal listed as an acceptable place for me to continue receiving their aid) sorted out, so tuition needs _should_ be settled, though I'm not 100 % sure yet.

My main question involves the visa and how you can work being on only a student visa? Thanks...


Posted by tatgirl on Feb-04-2006 22:59:

I think as a foreign student you may be allowed to work certain jobs (campus jobs or part time stuff)- unless I am confusing it with foreigners in university in the States...?? It's been a long time since I was in Uni, and I can't remember where I heard that (US or Canada)- its all a blur....


Posted by Porky on Feb-04-2006 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
OK. Here's one of mine:

I applied to Concordia University (Montreal) as a transfer student, from the US (currently attend Peirce College here), on 3 January 2006. Assumeing they received all my previous educational documentation they needed to complete the registration process, what else would be needed before I need to go on to get the visa(s) and _how long will it take for me to get these visa(s) if I am to start in the autumn 2006 semester_?

Concordia also mentions I need an income that is _not_ part-time, but I didn't think this was possible if you are in Canada on a student visa. That really confuses me. I'm getting my FAFSA (US federal financial aid, they have Concordia Univ in Montreal listed as an acceptable place for me to continue receiving their aid) sorted out, so tuition needs _should_ be settled, though I'm not 100 % sure yet.

My main question involves the visa and how you can work being on only a student visa? Thanks...


actually im not really sure about student F visas, you would have to do more research on that

i did however work in the usa on a TN1 visa, which i'm an expert on. working full time, i also was able to study grad school part time, which didn't fall under the student f visa

you should make sure all your documentation is cleared... hope that helped?



Posted by Transmotion on Feb-04-2006 23:08:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
I think as a foreign student you may be allowed to work certain jobs (campus jobs or part time stuff)- unless I am confusing it with foreigners in university in the States...?? It's been a long time since I was in Uni, and I can't remember where I heard that (US or Canada)- its all a blur....

Foreign student can work anywhere if the person/company that is willing to hire him will provide confirmation letter to ministry of labour.


Posted by ali92 on Feb-05-2006 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by tatgirl
I think as a foreign student you may be allowed to work certain jobs (campus jobs or part time stuff)- unless I am confusing it with foreigners in university in the States...?? It's been a long time since I was in Uni, and I can't remember where I heard that (US or Canada)- its all a blur....
This is what I figured - stuff like work-study, internship, co-op...


Posted by ali92 on Feb-05-2006 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Transmotion
Foreign student can work anywhere if the person/company that is willing to hire him will provide confirmation letter to ministry of labour.
OK. How sure are you on this?


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