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recording: iRiver vs Sony Minidisc

Ive been searching the forum for specifics but couldnt find...

Im looking for a portable solution for recording sets. I picked up the Cowon iAudio U2 only to find the line in record option only goes up to 128 kbps. The iRiver ifp 799 w/line in goes up to 320 which is nice. I also cheked out Sony's Hi MD 700 or 910 minidisc which does 64 or 256. The Sony's seem to be made for recording while the iRiver is more for listening. One other consideration is the Sony doesnt work with Mac which I may be switching to. Anyone have experience with these that can tell me which is better for recording? thanks

Edit - both are right around $150 so price is not an issue

I've used an iRiver a couple of times to record sets and they turn out phenomenal... I still prefer recording onto my laptop, but for a nice, portable solution, those things are pure fire...

Good luck Mike, see ya tomorrow!

I heard the iriver has a time limit, is that true? What about capacity.

My friend and I wana buy one along with a good mic to record livesets at clubs

(Sasha + Zabs Feb 18th if anyone cares...lol)

I'm still having trouble finding a good one...

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Originally posted by Clovis86 I heard the iriver has a time limit, is that true? What about capacity.

Capacity: Up to 1 Gig

Time Limit: I don't know for sure, but the sets we recorded were full nights out, which means about 5-6 hours of audio, and we didn't have a problem at all.

Don't know if that helps at all, I don't own one myself, but I've used them and they seem to have worked out great...

Yes they are both avail up to 1 Gig...in theory you could record until that is full at whatever bitrate you record at (the batter lasts like 30 hours).

I think one of the sony models comes with a mic as well

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Originally posted by KID-M Yes they are both avail up to 1 Gig...in theory you could record until that is full at whatever bitrate you record at (the batter lasts like 30 hours). I think one of the sony models comes with a mic as well

Whats the max record quality?


EDIT: 320?

yup, 320!

Hmm

Sasha & Zabs are gonna play probably from 12:30 to 7am

Wonder what bitrate would be god to get as much of the set without losing too much quality.

An hour of 320 is like...200MB? I'm thinking of just recording in 320 as much as I can...so the quality will be better.

I *may* be out there for that weekend...

Avalon is open that late!?! I thought LA was all early closing!

Edit: a 10 min track @ 320 is ~22 MB so 1 hour = 132 Mb (if my math is right)

I've used my iRiver a couple of times for recording sets out, and they usually turn out real nice as long as you remember to leave the line-in recording level down quite a bit. Mine is an old one and doesn't have much space though so I usually leave the bitrate down a lot so I can get more time. A couple of times there have been errors where the recording starts skipping all over the place. I'm not sure why it happened but I'm thinking it's battery related.

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Originally posted by KID-M I *may* be out there for that weekend... Avalon is open that late!?! I thought LA was all early closing! Edit: a 10 min track @ 320 is ~22 MB so 1 hour = 132 Mb (if my math is right)

lol Avalon closes at 7.

Usually the big DJs go till 4 or 5 then they do aftrhour power till 7...but Fundacion nights always get all the way till close.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Hmm Sasha & Zabs are gonna play probably from 12:30 to 7am Wonder what bitrate would be god to get as much of the set without losing too much quality. An hour of 320 is like...200MB? I'm thinking of just recording in 320 as much as I can...so the quality will be better.

I would definitely simply recommend 192..........all scene releases for sets are this quality, and at 320 kbps, you'll be running out of room fast...

i record onto an iriver H320 regulalry. Took a bit of messing about to get the sound levels right so it sounded ok. now it sounds good so long as I don't run the mixer well into the red, recording when other people are playing is not so easy as they run levels all over the place.
not sure about other iriver models, but the H3* series have a recording limit of 200Mb per file. If you don't stop and start again, it'll just stop recording when it hits that limit. takes 10 seconds or so when you press stop before it saves an dyou can start recording again

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Originally posted by KID-M I *may* be out there for that weekend... Avalon is open that late!?! I thought LA was all early closing! Edit: a 10 min track @ 320 is ~22 MB so 1 hour = 132 Mb (if my math is right)

*AHEM!* Los Angeles NEVER sleeps!

i can explain why people have that (incorrect) impression, about my fair city.

stupid people go home early. there are a lot of stupid people here.

it's that simple... really, it is.

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Originally posted by alefort I would definitely simply recommend 192..........all scene releases for sets are this quality, and at 320 kbps, you'll be running out of room fast...

Well I was planning on recording at 320 then re-compressing it to 192 with a little work done to it to fix it up.

IRIver

I've got an Iriver too and it rocks. I've got the older one with the optical input, not sure if the newer ones have it. Anyway I used it to help a friend record a set since his computer sucked. Used the optical input and hooked it to his soundcard which was a good card and the results were amazing. Doing this bypassed his shitty processor since the conversions were being done in the soundcard. I think the time limit on mine is an hour. I have the H120.

Allen

i have the h320, and its great, although i have trouble setting the mic to the proper level, and it doesnt help with all the yelling the the people do, but i guess its good since it gives you the sensation that your at the club, lol.

I also have a minidisc, and its also easier to use since it has its own volume limiter, which i dont have to adjust the mic for nothing. just start to record and it will level on its own. but i hate the transfer from the mini disc over to the PC.

i have an MD 700, and you WANT AN iRIVER, trust me, converting from sonys atrac format to mp3 on ur computer is such a pain in the ass!

Also the software that sony make as an interface to the minidisc is so shit, it crashes all the time and has way too many bugs

get an iRiver, no question at all!

iRiver's line in and its ability to record is a great idea I was thinking to buy an ifp-800 but decided to stick to my Numark USB mixer which already allows me to record

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