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Was wondering what everyone's views were on religion...the universe...and everything. I grew up in a bible belt state with a bible belt family and am only now realizing that its probably all BS. My parents tried to get me counseling because I told them I don't believe the christian bible. I think "God" was created as a way to control humans.

I don't believe in organized religion and how it's used. I also think that, with all the hundreds of religions out there, its ignorant to think that your religion is the one that accurately describes how the universe, or multiple universes as it might be, was created. Now days, I think most people use religion as a way of life, and don't really care to look into how the universe was created. I think church keeps people from accepting change, which in turn, slows the advancement of our society and ability to understand the universe further.

I think that, at the time, God was the best explanation for how life came to be on this planet. I mean, come on, we used to think the earth was flat. That was the best explanation we had at the time for how the Earth was. Now look at all we know.

If a God does exist, I don't think its in the form of any of the religions we have on this Earth.

Sorry for the serious talk..lol..but just wondering what other people think.

Re: Religion

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Originally posted by xstalkrx Was wondering what everyone's views were on religion...

oh crap... please go to political forum....this gets ugly in here

I dont want to go heavy handed into the discussion, but many religions offer the same or extremely similar advice and direction on living life. It's ridiculous that people fight more over what label you wear than what you actually believe in.

ahh!! religion! christians and crusades! muslims....peace but blowing up all over the place, ah!! jews....old religion doesn't fit with modern times!!! ummm...religion is cause of all evil...oh and it's dumb.

I think that should pretty much cover all the points that will be made in this thread.

Also, I'm Christian and studied all sides of the argument long before making my decision.

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Originally posted by Masonious ahh!! religion! christians and crusades! muslims....peace but blowing up all over the place, ah!! jews....old religion doesn't fit with modern times!!! ummm...religion is cause of all evil...oh and it's dumb. I think that should pretty much cover all the points that will be made in this thread. Also, I'm Christian and studied all sides of the argument long before making my decision.

science is the new religion.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 science is the new religion.

religion deals in faith, science deals in facts, how could this be?

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Originally posted by Masonious religion deals in faith, science deals in facts, how could this be?

We put our faith in the facts presented by science and their societal function (to answer the unknown) is relatively the same

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Originally posted by Masonious religion deals in faith, science deals in facts, how could this be?

we put our faith that science has found the true facts.

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Originally posted by tribu We put our faith in the facts presented by science and their societal function (to answer the unknown) is relatively the same

lol, I saw your reply, and I replied even after seeing you wrote what I was gonna write.

I grew up Roman Catholic and attended Catholic grade school and highschool. We didnt get a lot of exposure to other belief systems at all, and I never really thought of anything else until I got to college. Ive studied Eastern religions, and I know a little about Middle Eastern religion, and those of India... and Im convinced that none of us have it right. Im a scientist, so its really hard for me to be a Christian (which is why Im not), but its also difficult for me to write off the entire notion that there is some kind of higher being. The whole "if 99% of the world believes in a supernatural being, then how can it be wrong?" question has always weighed in on my mind. Im probably closest to what we consider a Universalist. I believe that we should all try and be good people, and that if we are good people and if there is a heaven, we will get there. I dont believe by any stretch of the imagination that there is One True God. If god is, god is for everyone.

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Originally posted by tribu We put our faith in the facts presented by science

What faith is there to be had in facts? Faith says one is willing to believe in something without proof. Science can offer no explanation for how something came of nothing; so ultimately faith comes into play. One side accepts the idea that we're here due to supernatural reasons and the other feels that no valid, scientific reason has yet been brought forth for our existence.

edit: by rejected I meant accepted

i'm realllly drunk

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Originally posted by Masonious What faith is there to be had in facts? Faith says one is willing to believe in something without proof. Science can offer no explanation for how something came of nothing; so ultimately faith comes into play. One side accepts the idea that we're here due to supernatural reasons and the other feels that no valid, scientific reason has yet been brought forth for our existence. edit: by rejected I meant accepted i'm realllly drunk

well you are assuming that science is correct. Its been wrong before. And its the same concept as religion, we had religious people telling us what was right and how the world is and should be, now we have science telling us the same things.


Its a concept I ahve just come to grapple with.

I just see the facts and make up to what i believe is the truth.

I dont believe in god. I do believe that we at the end of the day are just a bunch of space dust that has evolved into human beings after billions of years.

I'm not sure about the existence of intelligent life out there.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 well you are assuming that science is correct. Its been wrong before. And its the same concept as religion, we had religious people telling us what was right and how the world is and should be, now we have science telling us the same things. Its a concept I ahve just come to grapple with.

agreed, i just have a hard time hearing, "Science is our new religion" due to the fact that in many ways they're diametrically opposed. "Science is the new opiate of the masses." I would be more willing to accept.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 well you are assuming that science is correct. Its been wrong before. And its the same concept as religion, we had religious people telling us what was right and how the world is and should be, now we have science telling us the same things. Its a concept I ahve just come to grapple with.

Its not parallel, though, its a progression. Where we believed in things undefinable and unprovable before, we now have facts.

Don't agree with it.


(wait's for the flames to melt this thread)

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Originally posted by UWM Don't agree with it. (wait's for the flames to melt this thread)

Dont agree with what? Religion or science?

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Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie Dont agree with what? Religion or science?

Since you've got a good idea of what I study, you might be able to take an educated guess.

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Originally posted by UWM Since you've got a good idea of what I study, you might be able to take an educated guess.

I know, I was going to add "even though I know the answer" to that post but I wanted to see if youd take the bait and go with it.

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Originally posted by UWM Don't agree with it. (wait's for the flames to melt this thread)

hehe, i can't believe how heated both sides can get over the issue...especially on internet forums. Is your faith so weak or your confidence in science so frail that you cannot read a snippet of an internet forum without getting frantic? This nearly always seems to be the case and simply weakens the stance of whoever froths the most. This thread looks to die though, tomorrow is Monday and it will be largely ignored.

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Originally posted by Masonious hehe, i can't believe how heated both sides can get over the issue...especially on internet forums. Is your faith so weak or your confidence in science so frail that you cannot read a snippet of an internet forum without getting frantic? This nearly always seems to be the case and simply weakens the stance of whoever froths the most. This thread looks to die though, tomorrow is Monday and it will be largely ignored.

Unless the kids at work want to start a war.

i heard microbiologists take it up their microbiologobutts

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Originally posted by Masonious hehe, i can't believe how heated both sides can get over the issue...especially on internet forums. Is your faith so weak or your confidence in science so frail that you cannot read a snippet of an internet forum without getting frantic? This nearly always seems to be the case and simply weakens the stance of whoever froths the most. This thread looks to die though, tomorrow is Monday and it will be largely ignored.

How am I getting frantic? I posted a simple response, and don't feel a need to defend what I believe in or why I believe in it. Is that so deplorable?

Oh gosh, I dont think that was directed at you...

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Originally posted by UWM How am I getting frantic? I posted a simple response, and don't feel a need to defend what I believe in and why I believe in it. Is that so deplorable?

dude...i wasn't referencing you at all...i was referencing the part about you waiting for the thread to get flamed...

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